Eupedia Forums
Site NavigationEupedia Top > Eupedia Forum & Japan Forum
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 54

Thread: Brexit

  1. #1
    Earl Maleth's Avatar
    Join Date
    22-03-14
    Location
    Malta
    Posts
    1,919

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    EV13 A7136 y18675G+
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H

    Country: Malta



    Brexit

    23rd June is Referendum day to determine whether Britain will leave or remain in the EU. It seems that there is quite a strong momentum for Britain to Leave the Block irrelevant that financial and now religious institutions are advising the contrary. Will it be really that bad for a few years? until Brexit terms are sorted and new home grown regulations are put in place?

    I believe that ultimately Britain will vote to remain in the EU, also I think Britain will do better in the EU rather then out on many fronts. However if it does not, there might be a caution approach from other EU member states to see how Britain will perform outside the Block (we already have the Norwegian and Swiss model however with different circumstances to those in Britain). If Britain really will do better out of the EU then I presume it will trigger a chain reaction of other countries to follow (presumably Scandinavian). I believe the EU itself will not be dismantle and remain a functioning block only with few less countries (that could eventually work better in the long run). Its a long journey and time will tell. We have to wait and see.

    What are your opinions about it?

    I think this song fits with the subject

  2. #2
    Regular Member Yetos's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-10-11
    Location
    Makedonia
    Posts
    5,843

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    G2a3a
    MtDNA haplogroup
    X2b

    Ethnic group
    Makedonian original
    Country: Greece



    nice video Meliteus

    an answer to it

    Dont know what I want but
    I know how to get it




    I thought it was the u.k or just
    Another country
    Another council tenancy
    Last edited by Yetos; 13-06-16 at 09:10.
    ΟΘΕΝ ΑΙΔΩΣ OY EINAI
    ΑΤΗ ΛΑΜΒΑΝΕΙΝ ΑΥΤΟΙΣ
    ΥΒΡΙΣ ΓΕΝΝΑΤΑΙ
    ΝΕΜΕΣΙΣ ΚΑΙ ΤΙΣΗ ΑΚΟΛΟΥΘΟΥΣΙ ΔΕ

    When there is no shame
    Divine blindness conquers them
    Hybris (abuse, opprombium) is born
    Nemesis and punishment follows.

    Εχε υπομονη Ηρωα
    Η τιμωρια δεν αργει.

  3. #3
    Earl Maleth's Avatar
    Join Date
    22-03-14
    Location
    Malta
    Posts
    1,919

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    EV13 A7136 y18675G+
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H

    Country: Malta



    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    nice video Meliteus

    an answer to it

    Dont know what I want but
    I know how to get it


    I thought it was the u.k or just
    Another country
    Another council tenancy
    Im glad you like the song Yetos. Now regard the 'Never mind the Bollocks' could be an attitude that works

    (sometimes )

  4. #4
    Regular Member Yetos's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-10-11
    Location
    Makedonia
    Posts
    5,843

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    G2a3a
    MtDNA haplogroup
    X2b

    Ethnic group
    Makedonian original
    Country: Greece



    yeap
    Sex pistols were always rude,

    I am gonna miss Nigel Farage, I liked that guy,
    I CAN NOT IMAGINE EURO-PARLIAMENT WITHOUT FARAGE
    but neither British roads driving at right current, and car driving wheel at the right

    anyway it s their choice, that comes from a voting proccesor,
    meaning clear and open transparent desicion,

    and as a tribute to the country that both Punk-rock and Heavy metal is borned,
    after sex pistols, I pay a tribute with the song that is at 12:24 of the video



    STRONG SHE STANDS - REACHING HER HAND , BRAVE AND GRAND
    JOIN RAISE YOUR HAND OR HIDE
    WHEN WE RIDE FOR THE CROWN
    OUR MEETING WITH FATE IS TONIGHT

  5. #5
    Advisor LeBrok's Avatar
    Join Date
    18-11-09
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    10,295

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b Z2109
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1c

    Ethnic group
    Citizen of the world
    Country: Canada-Alberta



    It's better for all if they stay.
    Be wary of people who tend to glorify the past, underestimate the present, and demonize the future.

  6. #6
    Earl Maleth's Avatar
    Join Date
    22-03-14
    Location
    Malta
    Posts
    1,919

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    EV13 A7136 y18675G+
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H

    Country: Malta



    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    yeap

    I am gonna miss Nigel Farage, I liked that guy,
    I wont say that too soon. He might still be there for a few more years.....and the pay is really good :)

  7. #7
    Regular Member Yetos's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-10-11
    Location
    Makedonia
    Posts
    5,843

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    G2a3a
    MtDNA haplogroup
    X2b

    Ethnic group
    Makedonian original
    Country: Greece



    What I do not understand is why to exit European Union,
    and then enter TTIP treaty,
    entering TTIP treaty, is not far for being a member of EU,
    at least at economical affairs,

    do you believe that UK will not enter TTIP zone?

  8. #8
    Earl Maleth's Avatar
    Join Date
    22-03-14
    Location
    Malta
    Posts
    1,919

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    EV13 A7136 y18675G+
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H

    Country: Malta



    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    What I do not understand is why to exit European Union,
    and then enter TTIP treaty,
    entering TTIP treaty, is not far for being a member of EU,
    at least at economical affairs,

    do you believe that UK will not enter TTIP zone?
    If not mistaken TTIP is still in negotiation and its between the USA and the EU. I doubt if it will ever take place as there are too many interests and barriers. If it goes through I am not sure if countries with special arrangements with the EU like Norway and Switzerland will be eligible to be part of the treaty? what is for sure that anyone in the world will be more willing to sign up agreements with a block of 742 million people rather then, say a country of 64 million which Britain has at present.

  9. #9
    Regular Member Yetos's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-10-11
    Location
    Makedonia
    Posts
    5,843

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    G2a3a
    MtDNA haplogroup
    X2b

    Ethnic group
    Makedonian original
    Country: Greece



    Quote Originally Posted by Maleth View Post
    If not mistaken TTIP is still in negotiation and its between the USA and the EU. I doubt if it will ever take place as there are too many interests and barriers. If it goes through I am not sure if countries with special arrangements with the EU like Norway and Switzerland will be eligible to be part of the treaty? what is for sure that anyone in the world will be more willing to sign up agreements with a block of 742 million people rather then, say a country of 64 million which Britain has at present.
    hmm, indeed,
    but the status of the world shows that the biggest the country, the biggest the poverty of low classes

  10. #10
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    06-06-16
    Posts
    22


    Country: Canada-Ontario



    I am interested how Brexit would influence rental business in London. Different resources publish opposite forecasts: The Guardian predicts a fall in rental prices if the UK votes to leave the EU (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-eu-referendum). On the other hand, professional brokers (viz. https://tranio.com/) believe that an exit from the EU would not affect the demand/supply imbalance on the real estate market and even if property prices drop 5%, it won’t mean anything for such a hot market like London. I would like to see adequate prices

  11. #11
    Earl Maleth's Avatar
    Join Date
    22-03-14
    Location
    Malta
    Posts
    1,919

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    EV13 A7136 y18675G+
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H

    Country: Malta



    Seems like the UK in general has voted to leave the EU. Now the question is will the EU try to find a smooth transition for this to happen? or will it find subtle ways to punish the vote. I believe that finally its not in the EU interest to punish the UK as it can create self inflicting wounds, however not doing so, we are very likely going to see a Scandiexit as the sentiments are very similar to those in Britian at present. Then the Dutch might follow, meaning all want to pull out having favorable economic terms and 'maybe' still open borders with the block, (like Switzerland), but can regulate the policies closer to home in their own parliaments and not from Brussels and without the need to contribute to the EU budget.

    There is also the Scottish Issue, who are not particularity happy to be dragged in all this by being ruled from London (So to speak), and Scotland as a country has voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU. This in itself is going to create another huge argument for the UK in general.

    Interesting times ahead

  12. #12
    Advisor bicicleur's Avatar
    Join Date
    27-01-13
    Location
    Zwevegem, Belgium
    Posts
    5,731


    Country: Belgium - Flanders



    2 members found this post helpful.
    the overpaid European politics has proven its incompetence once again

  13. #13
    Regular Member Boreas's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-05-15
    Location
    Istanbul
    Posts
    709

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R-YP346
    MtDNA haplogroup
    J1b1b1

    Ethnic group
    Rumî
    Country: Turkey



    1 members found this post helpful.
    They voted for past glory days of British Empire


    but now Scotland and North Ireland are starting separation movements again.

  14. #14
    Elite member
    Join Date
    07-09-14
    Posts
    4,646

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b
    MtDNA haplogroup
    W6

    Ethnic group
    Polish
    Country: Poland



    Scotland will secede, N. Ireland will join the Rep. of Ireland, so this will be the new UK flag soon:

    https://s32.postimg.org/ab83oyzt1/image.png




  15. #15
    Elite member
    Join Date
    07-09-14
    Posts
    4,646

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b
    MtDNA haplogroup
    W6

    Ethnic group
    Polish
    Country: Poland



    1 members found this post helpful.
    Bravo Merkel, bravo Germans... - your idiocy chased the UK out of the EU:


  16. #16
    Regular Member Yetos's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-10-11
    Location
    Makedonia
    Posts
    5,843

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    G2a3a
    MtDNA haplogroup
    X2b

    Ethnic group
    Makedonian original
    Country: Greece



    Quote Originally Posted by bicicleur View Post
    the overpaid European politics has proven its incompetence once again
    true, and some of them not even elected.

  17. #17
    Elite member
    Join Date
    07-09-14
    Posts
    4,646

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b
    MtDNA haplogroup
    W6

    Ethnic group
    Polish
    Country: Poland



    Brexit Party!:


  18. #18
    Earl Maleth's Avatar
    Join Date
    22-03-14
    Location
    Malta
    Posts
    1,919

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    EV13 A7136 y18675G+
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H

    Country: Malta



    Haha good one :).

  19. #19
    Advisor LeBrok's Avatar
    Join Date
    18-11-09
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    10,295

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b Z2109
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1c

    Ethnic group
    Citizen of the world
    Country: Canada-Alberta



    Quote Originally Posted by Maleth View Post
    Seems like its a little too late now. The writing on the wall has been there for a while and been either ignored hoping its just a phase and will just go away. Seems like Europe will have to go back to an economic union as no one really complains about that, but political Union dictated by Brussels has never really been popular, very often insensitive to the people needs, or when the sensitivity arrives it would have caused too much resentment and distress.
    I'm not sure if EU was more insensitive than most national governments. I think that pendulum has swung towards conservatism and nationalism these days due to slow economy, terrorism and too much immigration. In a decade the populous mood might be way different.
    There might be unforeseen circumstances though. Possibly Scotland and North Ireland will separate from GB and jon EU instead? If city of London could have done it they would.


    Voting by demographics:



    http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...-eu-referendum

    The smart and the young wanted to stay in.

  20. #20
    Advisor LeBrok's Avatar
    Join Date
    18-11-09
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    10,295

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b Z2109
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1c

    Ethnic group
    Citizen of the world
    Country: Canada-Alberta



    Quote Originally Posted by Boreas View Post
    They voted for past glory days of British Empire

    but now Scotland and North Ireland are starting separation movements again.
    It says a lot about hypocrisy of English voters who voted to leave.

  21. #21
    Earl Maleth's Avatar
    Join Date
    22-03-14
    Location
    Malta
    Posts
    1,919

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    EV13 A7136 y18675G+
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H

    Country: Malta



    1 members found this post helpful.
    Britain was much wealthier within in the EU then when it joined. But that does not seem to matter any more. All taken for granted like many other things in life. The main driving force behind the change that is sweeping across is immigration with the same rhetoric. We have it here too. Foreigners taking our jobs (jobs that clearly locals are not interested to do) Foreigners are keeping our wages low and we cant do anything because Brussels say so. This is what you hear time and time again. No one says how better off we are then we were before we joined the EU. They blame Brussels for it. All have the same argument....including the Trump movement that coincidental (or maybe not) is at par with what is happening in Europe.

  22. #22
    Advisor LeBrok's Avatar
    Join Date
    18-11-09
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    10,295

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b Z2109
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1c

    Ethnic group
    Citizen of the world
    Country: Canada-Alberta



    1 members found this post helpful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maleth View Post
    Encouraging figures re age group, but its done now. Britain has to leave. The EU has to decided whether to punish or not. I think it will not. If it will not others will follow. Besides Scandinavia, Austria is hanging on a piece of string, and France is gaining momentum. Trump can be voted in for the same reasons and that will create a perfect storm. I am not normally pessimistic but I can feel some kind of Third world turmoil (not to call it war). Hopefully it will not get to that.
    I wouldn't have guessed that conservatism could build up such strength to start ripping EU apart. Or in States possible ripping to pieces all trade agreements and supporting in numbers racist demagogue and hypocrite, who is seen as their savour. It is an indication that people are generally scared these days. Scared of "them" and "the others" and "big bad world" in general. It is a typical human emotional reflex, when you are scared you want to hid and in political terms "separate". More naturally conservative person, the stronger the feeling.

  23. #23
    Elite member
    Join Date
    07-09-14
    Posts
    4,646

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b
    MtDNA haplogroup
    W6

    Ethnic group
    Polish
    Country: Poland



    Some more maps (blue = Leave, yellow = Remain):



    In London White British areas voted mostly to Leave:


  24. #24
    Elite member
    Join Date
    07-09-14
    Posts
    4,646

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b
    MtDNA haplogroup
    W6

    Ethnic group
    Polish
    Country: Poland



    In Wales Gwynedd and Ceredigion voted to Remain.

    In these regions Welsh-speakers are most numerous:


  25. #25
    Great Adventurer sparkey's Avatar
    Join Date
    17-02-11
    Location
    California
    Posts
    2,251

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    I2c1 PF3892+ (Swiss)
    MtDNA haplogroup
    U4a (Cornish)

    Ethnic group
    3/4 Colonial American, 1/8 Cornish, 1/8 Welsh
    Country: USA - California



    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Scotland will secede, N. Ireland will join the Rep. of Ireland, so this will be the new UK flag soon:

    https://s32.postimg.org/ab83oyzt1/image.png

    The Welsh dragon is a favorite of mine, but that is hideous, and doesn't do tincture correctly. If they're going to mix the Welsh and English flags, it's much better to have the dragon in the canton, or to instead incorporate St. David's cross into the inside or outside of St. George's cross. One of these:



    (made in Paint in 3 minutes so imagine that they aren't sloppy)

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •