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    Post your Near East Neolithic K13 Admixture

    It is on Gedmatch under GedrosiaDNA.
    Since we have now allot more of ancient Near Eastern samples we can determine the Neolithic ancestry allot better.
    A sidenote, it is a good tool to determine the Neolithic ancestry in modern people, but as many calculators it as errors/calculator effect on ancient samples. And the ancient samples shouldn't be taken serious.

    CHG_EEF represents CHG. It is predominantly (4/5) CHG and a little EEF(1/5) ancestry that doesn't get caught up by the Anatolian_Neo samples but seems to be overlapping with CHG. This EEF could also be Levant_Neo ancestry since we don't have a Levant_Neo component.

    Levant_Neo isn't used since per Lazaridis it can be modeled basically as ~50% Natufian and 50% Anatolian_Neo. However most if not all of the "Natufian" DNA and some of the Anatolian_Neo is probably Levan_Neo derived.
    Don't be suprised if you as a European turn out with more CHG than many West Asians. This is due to the fact that what was caught up as "CHG" in older calculators turned out to be Iran_Neo DNA, and Europeans seem to have as much, if not even more real CHG ancestry.

    Ancestral Indian is not to be confused with Ancestral South Indian. Ancestral Indian contains (2/3) Iran_Meso/Neo related West Eurasian ancestry.

    Mine
    1 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 34.25
    2 CHG_EEF 22.27
    3 NATUFIAN 15.23
    4 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 13.45
    5 EHG 6.02
    6 ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 5.17
    7 SIBERIAN 1.38
    8 KARITIANA 1.2
    9 SE_ASIAN 0.38
    10 SHG_WHG 0.36
    11. Polar 0,3

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    Population
    SE_ASIAN 0.71
    ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 25.51
    CHG_EEF 30.53
    POLAR -
    EHG 5.79
    SUB_SAHARAN 3.02
    IRAN_NEOLITHIC 12.56
    KARITIANA 0.51
    ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 0.20
    NATUFIAN 13.42
    SIBERIAN -
    PAPUAN -
    SHG_WHG 7.74

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    Population
    SE_ASIAN 1.56
    ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 11.34
    CHG_EEF 48.09
    POLAR 0.34
    EHG 18.08
    SUB_SAHARAN 0.27
    IRAN_NEOLITHIC 0.98
    KARITIANA -
    ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 1.12
    NATUFIAN 0.98
    SIBERIAN 0.38
    PAPUAN -
    SHG_WHG 16.84
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    The first are my results. The second are my mother's.
    SE_ASIAN -
    ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 18.35
    CHG_EEF 38.21
    POLAR 1.16
    EHG 10.96
    SUB_SAHARAN -
    IRAN_NEOLITHIC 8.70
    KARITIANA 1.10
    ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 1.41
    NATUFIAN 10.72
    SIBERIAN -
    PAPUAN -
    SHG_WHG 9.39
    SE_ASIAN -
    ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 22.65
    CHG_EEF 34.82
    POLAR 1.53
    EHG 5.22
    SUB_SAHARAN -
    IRAN_NEOLITHIC 12.98
    KARITIANA -
    ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 0.71
    NATUFIAN 15.33
    SIBERIAN -
    PAPUAN 0.13
    SHG_WHG 6.63

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    It can't be very good; I'm neither Bulgarian, nor from Thessaly in Greece, nor Albanian, nor Serbian. :)

    There's something wrong with the CHG_EEF component. I think it's "robbing" alleles from other components. Did the creator admit as much?

    Now I'm off.

    I checked again, no Serbian, but Romanian and Croatian show up way up the list :)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Now I'm off.
    I don't think they should be taken too seriously

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    mine below

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 CHG_EEF 38.92
    2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 22.47
    3 SHG_WHG 11.36
    4 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 8.8
    5 EHG 8.46
    6 NATUFIAN 7.57
    7 ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 1.54
    8 PAPUAN 0.48
    9 SUB_SAHARAN 0.33
    10 SE_ASIAN 0.08

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 93.1% Bulgarian + 6.9% Europe_MNChL @ 2.87
    2 83.6% Bulgarian + 16.4% Sardinian @ 2.94
    3 91.3% Bulgarian + 8.7% Stuttgart @ 3.36


    I do not know what Europe_MNnChL means
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleth View Post
    I don't think they should be taken too seriously
    Amusement, that's all. Till we find and identify all ancestral root populations, and learn to measure modern DNA using them.
    For example CHG and Iran N are very related. How can we decide if a gene in me comes from one or the other? Purely arbitrary in all cases of populations overlapping each other. Mixing Modern populations with Ancient populations as a source of my DNA is not very smart either.

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    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 90.4% Sicilian + 9.6% Europe_MNChL @ 3.1
    2 92.7% Sicilian + 7.3% Europe_EN @ 3.92
    3 85.2% Jew_Ashkenazi + 14.8% Europe_MNChL @ 3.99
    4 93.9% Sicilian + 6.1% Anatolia_N @ 4.17
    5 90.1% Sicilian + 9.9% Anatolia_ChL @ 4.25
    6 89.3% Sicilian + 10.7% Stuttgart @ 4.67
    7 87.9% Jew_Ashkenazi + 12.1% Europe_EN @ 4.68
    8 89.6% Jew_Ashkenazi + 10.4% Anatolia_N @ 5.15
    9 84.8% Sicilian + 15.2% Sardinian @ 5.16
    10 91.1% Sicilian + 8.9% Armenia_ChL @ 5.17
    11 86.3% Greek + 13.7% Anatolia_ChL @ 5.3
    12 88.8% Greek + 11.2% Europe_MNChL @ 5.55
    13 82.4% Italian_South + 17.6% Anatolia_ChL @ 5.62
    14 91.8% Greek + 8.2% Anatolia_N @ 5.64
    15 90.8% Greek + 9.2% Europe_EN @ 5.68
    16 97.6% Sicilian + 2.4% Bichon @ 5.68
    17 97.6% Sicilian + 2.4% SHG @ 5.68
    18 84% Jew_Ashkenazi + 16% Anatolia_ChL @ 5.71
    19 51.1% Turkish_Adana + 48.9% Sardinian @ 5.72
    20 89.5% Greek + 10.5% Levant_N @ 5.74

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    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 96.2% Icelandic + 3.8% Europe_MNChL @ 1.99
    2 86.7% Estonian + 13.3% Stuttgart @ 2.16
    3 97% Icelandic + 3% Europe_EN @ 2.17
    4 96.2% Icelandic + 3.8% Anatolia_ChL @ 2.18
    5 95.9% Norwegian + 4.1% Europe_MNChL @ 2.18
    6 97.3% Icelandic + 2.7% Anatolia_N @ 2.21
    7 90.9% Lithuanian + 9.1% Anatolia_N @ 2.34
    8 50.2% French + 49.8% Estonian @ 2.35
    9 96% Icelandic + 4% Armenia_ChL @ 2.35
    10 77.7% Icelandic + 22.3% French @ 2.36
    11 95.8% Icelandic + 4.2% Stuttgart @ 2.37
    12 85.7% Lithuanian + 14.3% Stuttgart @ 2.39
    13 94% Icelandic + 6% Sardinian @ 2.44
    14 97.3% Icelandic + 2.7% Thai @ 2.45
    15 97.4% Icelandic + 2.6% Cambodian @ 2.46
    16 52.5% French + 47.5% Lithuanian @ 2.51
    17 97.8% Icelandic + 2.2% Dai @ 2.54
    18 88.5% Icelandic + 11.5% Bulgarian @ 2.56
    19 97.6% Icelandic + 2.4% Han @ 2.56
    20 98% Icelandic + 2% Ami @ 2.56

    My god, I'm so close to every one, I'm a true citizen of the world, lol.

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    Go on the 13k as you did, then click on oracle just under

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 96.2% Icelandic + 3.8% Europe_MNChL @ 1.99
    2 86.7% Estonian + 13.3% Stuttgart @ 2.16
    3 97% Icelandic + 3% Europe_EN @ 2.17
    4 96.2% Icelandic + 3.8% Anatolia_ChL @ 2.18
    5 95.9% Norwegian + 4.1% Europe_MNChL @ 2.18
    6 97.3% Icelandic + 2.7% Anatolia_N @ 2.21
    7 90.9% Lithuanian + 9.1% Anatolia_N @ 2.34
    8 50.2% French + 49.8% Estonian @ 2.35
    9 96% Icelandic + 4% Armenia_ChL @ 2.35
    10 77.7% Icelandic + 22.3% French @ 2.36
    11 95.8% Icelandic + 4.2% Stuttgart @ 2.37
    12 85.7% Lithuanian + 14.3% Stuttgart @ 2.39
    13 94% Icelandic + 6% Sardinian @ 2.44
    14 97.3% Icelandic + 2.7% Thai @ 2.45
    15 97.4% Icelandic + 2.6% Cambodian @ 2.46
    16 52.5% French + 47.5% Lithuanian @ 2.51
    17 97.8% Icelandic + 2.2% Dai @ 2.54
    18 88.5% Icelandic + 11.5% Bulgarian @ 2.56
    19 97.6% Icelandic + 2.4% Han @ 2.56
    20 98% Icelandic + 2% Ami @ 2.56

    My god, I'm so close to every one, I'm a true citizen of the world, lol.
    you are from Iceland forget Poland....what are you talking about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleth View Post
    you are from Iceland forget Poland....what are you talking about
    And I would fit more in South Italy lol, with my looks and temperament.
    Depends on runs I'm also Hungarian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, German, Russian but rarely Polish. Although generally closer to my place of birth. My weird genetics is screwing up GEDmatch algorithm big time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    It can't be very good; I'm neither Bulgarian, nor from Thessaly in Greece, nor Albanian, nor Serbian. :)

    There's something wrong with the CHG_EEF component. I think it's "robbing" alleles from other components. Did the creator admit as much?

    Now I'm off.

    I checked again, no Serbian, but Romanian and Croatian show up way up the list :)
    The oracle has issue it is widely known and Kurd mentioned it. Also his calculator doesn't work well for ancient samples. Only modern once. As I mentioned above, I think you missed it, the CHG_EEF catches up some Neolitihic admixture that overlaps with CHG but isn't caught up by Anatolian_Neo. CHG_EEF is like 4/5 CHG and 1/5 Anatolian_neo.

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    # Population Percent
    1 CHG_EEF 43.92
    2 EHG 18.47
    3 SHG_WHG 15.94
    4 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 12.28
    5 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 4.65
    6 NATUFIAN 3.29
    7 ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 1.25
    8 SUB_SAHARAN 0.17
    9 SIBERIAN 0.03

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Hungarian 5.11
    2 Ukrainian 5.45
    3 English 5.67
    4 Scottish 5.73
    5 Czech 6.22
    6 French 7.22
    7 Croatian 7.23
    8 Norwegian 7.83
    9 Icelandic 7.91
    10 Romanian 10.63
    11 Russian 11.06
    12 Finnish 11.87
    13 Estonian 12.43
    14 Bulgarian 13.05
    15 Lithuanian 13.4
    16 Europe_LNBA 16.81
    17 Albanian 18.85
    18 Greek 20.64
    19 Italian_South 24.93
    20 Sicilian 25.14

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 92.3% Ukrainian + 7.7% Anatolia_ChL @ 2.04
    2 91.5% Ukrainian + 8.5% Armenia_ChL @ 2.38
    3 87.5% Icelandic + 12.5% Armenia_ChL @ 2.42
    4 91.1% Scottish + 8.9% Armenia_ChL @ 2.44
    5 87.9% Czech + 12.1% Steppe_IA @ 2.44
    6 82.2% Lithuanian + 17.8% Anatolia_ChL @ 2.56
    7 91.2% Scottish + 8.8% Armenia_MLBA @ 2.72
    8 92.6% English + 7.4% Iran_recent @ 2.81
    9 87.9% Norwegian + 12.1% Armenia_ChL @ 2.84
    10 91.6% English + 8.4% Armenia_MLBA @ 2.99
    11 90.7% Czech + 9.3% Armenia_ChL @ 3
    12 89.4% Icelandic + 10.6% Iran_recent @ 3.02
    13 94.2% English + 5.8% Iran_ChL @ 3.02
    14 95.5% English + 4.5% Iran_LN @ 3.08
    15 95.5% English + 4.5% Iran_N @ 3.08
    16 89.6% Scottish + 10.4% Steppe_IA @ 3.09
    17 92.9% English + 7.1% Brahui @ 3.09
    18 89.6% Norwegian + 10.4% Iran_recent @ 3.1
    19 90.7% Czech + 9.3% Armenia_MLBA @ 3.12
    20 92.7% English + 7.3% Kurd_SE @ 3.12

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    Here are the results for Temrta IV, a sample from the Yamna Horizon page. If this is correct, I wonder if the Indo-Europeans learned farming via the Zagro's mountain people.

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    Near East Neolithic K13 Oracle results:

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 EHG 91.64
    2 CHG_EEF 6.82
    3 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 1.03
    4 SHG_WHG 0.41
    5 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Steppe_EMBA 7.64
    2 EHG 9.98
    3 Steppe_Eneolithic 15.97
    4 MA1 33.78
    5 Steppe_MLBA 50.16
    6 Steppe_IA 54.08
    7 Europe_LNBA 63.93
    8 Mansi 76.88
    9 Russian 78.35
    10 Tajik 78.87
    11 Finnish 78.93
    12 Estonian 79.69
    13 Norwegian 80.03
    14 English 80.44
    15 Lezgin 80.47
    16 Icelandic 80.58
    17 Ukrainian 80.61
    18 Chechen 80.72
    19 Lithuanian 81.11
    20 Scottish 81.45

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 92.4% EHG + 7.6% CHG @ 1.46
    2 94.3% Steppe_EMBA + 5.7% CHG @ 2.23
    3 83.8% EHG + 16.2% Steppe_MLBA @ 2.3
    4 89.2% EHG + 10.8% Norwegian @ 2.32
    5 89.1% EHG + 10.9% Estonian @ 2.38
    6 89.3% EHG + 10.7% Icelandic @ 2.39
    7 89.3% EHG + 10.7% Lithuanian @ 2.42
    8 89.3% EHG + 10.7% Ukrainian @ 2.46
    9 89.5% EHG + 10.5% Czech @ 2.53
    10 89.1% EHG + 10.9% Finnish @ 2.54
    11 89.3% EHG + 10.7% English @ 2.56
    12 89.4% EHG + 10.6% Scottish @ 2.56
    13 89% EHG + 11% Russian @ 2.57
    14 89.5% EHG + 10.5% Hungarian @ 2.65
    15 89.7% EHG + 10.3% Croatian @ 2.71
    16 89.7% EHG + 10.3% French @ 2.99
    17 89.8% EHG + 10.2% Romanian @ 3
    18 89.8% EHG + 10.2% Bulgarian @ 3.25
    19 87.2% EHG + 12.8% Europe_LNBA @ 3.36
    20 90.2% EHG + 9.8% Albanian @ 3.57

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    Ethnic group
    Albanian
    Country: Albania



    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 CHG_EEF 36.81
    2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 23.88
    3 EHG 11.85
    4 SHG_WHG 10.13
    5 NATUFIAN 7.78
    6 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 7.26
    7 POLAR 1.38
    8 KARITIANA 0.5
    9 SUB_SAHARAN 0.41

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Bulgarian 6.06
    2 Albanian 6.32
    3 Romanian 8.85
    4 Greek 8.98
    5 Sicilian 12.48
    6 French 12.6
    7 Croatian 13.16
    8 Italian_South 14.19
    9 Hungarian 15.55
    10 Jew_Ashkenazi 15.68
    11 English 18.52
    12 Czech 19.23
    13 Scottish 19.6
    14 Turkish_Istanbul 20.41
    15 Ukrainian 20.63
    16 Sardinian 20.8
    17 Turkish 21.12
    18 Jew_Moroccan 22.22
    19 Norwegian 22.45
    20 Turkish_Balekesir 22.59

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 92.2% Bulgarian + 7.8% Europe_EN @ 2.44
    2 90.8% Bulgarian + 9.2% Europe_MNChL @ 2.5
    3 93.2% Bulgarian + 6.8% Anatolia_N @ 2.57
    4 85% Romanian + 15% Anatolia_ChL @ 2.8
    5 87.9% Bulgarian + 12.1% Stuttgart @ 3.08
    6 78.8% Croatian + 21.2% Anatolia_ChL @ 3.38
    7 90.2% Romanian + 9.8% Anatolia_N @ 3.39
    8 90.5% Bulgarian + 9.5% Anatolia_ChL @ 3.42
    9 89% Romanian + 11% Europe_EN @ 3.54
    10 81.7% Bulgarian + 18.3% Sardinian @ 3.98
    11 82.5% Albanian + 17.5% Europe_LNBA @ 4.02
    12 87.3% Romanian + 12.7% Europe_MNChL @ 4.07
    13 83.2% Romanian + 16.8% Stuttgart @ 4.48
    14 80.2% French + 19.8% Anatolia_ChL @ 4.81
    15 94.8% Bulgarian + 5.2% Levant_N @ 5.02
    16 92.7% Bulgarian + 7.3% Armenia_ChL @ 5.05
    17 75.4% Albanian + 24.6% French @ 5.08
    18 95.5% Albanian + 4.5% Steppe_Eneolithic @ 5.08
    19 76.3% Hungarian + 23.7% Anatolia_ChL @ 5.09
    20 90.9% Albanian + 9.1% Steppe_MLBA @ 5.19

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    Here is mine; Sicilian on fathers' side, Portuguese, Polish and distant Cape Verdean on mother's.


    # Population Percent
    1 CHG_EEF 36
    2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 21.55
    3 SHG_WHG 11.7
    4 NATUFIAN 11.26
    5 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 8.75
    6 EHG 7.95
    7 KARITIANA 1.19
    8 SUB_SAHARAN 0.73
    9 SE_ASIAN 0.57
    10 PAPUAN 0.3

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Albanian 5.91
    2 Greek 6.31
    3 Bulgarian 7.13
    4 Sicilian 9.36
    5 Romanian 9.68
    6 Italian_South 10.8
    7 Jew_Ashkenazi 11.62
    8 Croatian 14.31
    9 French 14.57
    10 Hungarian 16.7
    11 Turkish_Istanbul 17.98
    12 Jew_Moroccan 18.21
    13 Turkish 18.65
    14 English 20.16
    15 Turkish_Balekesir 20.39
    16 Czech 20.54
    17 Scottish 20.57
    18 Sardinian 21.43
    19 Ukrainian 21.86
    20 Turkish_Aydin 22.13

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 95.2% Albanian + 4.8% Bichon @ 2.47
    2 95.2% Albanian + 4.8% SHG @ 2.47
    3 94.8% Albanian + 5.2% WHG @ 2.57
    4 95.1% Greek + 4.9% WHG @ 3.93
    5 95.5% Greek + 4.5% SHG @ 3.94
    6 95.5% Greek + 4.5% Bichon @ 3.94
    7 55.9% French + 44.1% Jew_Moroccan @ 4.17
    8 62.6% Sicilian + 37.4% French @ 4.32
    9 91.6% Bulgarian + 8.4% Levant_N @ 4.55
    10 91.1% Bulgarian + 8.9% Levant_BA @ 4.81
    11 77.1% Greek + 22.9% French @ 4.82
    12 77.1% Bulgarian + 22.9% Jew_Moroccan @ 4.88
    13 61.8% French + 38.2% Cypriot @ 4.93
    14 81.7% Bulgarian + 18.3% Jew_Libyan @ 4.98
    15 61.1% Bulgarian + 38.9% Sicilian @ 5.07
    16 82.3% Bulgarian + 17.7% Jew_Tunisian @ 5.18
    17 71.9% Sicilian + 28.1% Scottish @ 5.2
    18 71.9% Sicilian + 28.1% Czech @ 5.2
    19 67.1% Sicilian + 32.9% Hungarian @ 5.21
    20 88.2% Greek + 11.8% Europe_LNBA @ 5.22





    And here is my mother's:


    # Population Percent
    1 CHG_EEF 41.61
    2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 16.53
    3 SHG_WHG 15.97
    4 EHG 15.37
    5 NATUFIAN 4.39
    6 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 1.56
    7 SUB_SAHARAN 1.41
    8 ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 1.29
    9 KARITIANA 0.97
    10 SIBERIAN 0.6
    11 PAPUAN 0.29

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 French 4.26
    2 Hungarian 6.15
    3 Croatian 6.59
    4 English 7.89
    5 Czech 8.52
    6 Scottish 8.64
    7 Romanian 8.7
    8 Ukrainian 9.73
    9 Bulgarian 10.83
    10 Icelandic 11.45
    11 Norwegian 11.55
    12 Russian 14.66
    13 Finnish 15.48
    14 Albanian 16.31
    15 Estonian 16.7
    16 Lithuanian 17.57
    17 Europe_LNBA 17.79
    18 Greek 18.5
    19 Sicilian 22.62
    20 Italian_South 22.89

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 88.1% Scottish + 11.9% Europe_MNChL @ 2.65
    2 91.9% Hungarian + 8.1% Europe_MNChL @ 2.93
    3 90.2% Scottish + 9.8% Europe_EN @ 2.96
    4 91.3% Scottish + 8.7% Anatolia_N @ 3.08
    5 97.2% French + 2.8% SHG @ 3.09
    6 97.2% French + 2.8% Bichon @ 3.09
    7 93.7% French + 6.3% Steppe_IA @ 3.14
    8 97% French + 3% WHG @ 3.16
    9 95.9% French + 4.1% MA1 @ 3.26
    10 89.5% English + 10.5% Europe_MNChL @ 3.32
    11 87% Ukrainian + 13% Europe_MNChL @ 3.36
    12 96.9% French + 3.1% Steppe_Eneolithic @ 3.48
    13 88.2% French + 11.8% Europe_LNBA @ 3.56
    14 95.7% French + 4.3% Mansi @ 3.65
    15 89.2% Ukrainian + 10.8% Europe_EN @ 3.65
    16 97.8% French + 2.2% Mota @ 3.66
    17 97.8% French + 2.2% Hadza @ 3.67
    18 84% Ukrainian + 16% Stuttgart @ 3.68
    19 88.1% Scottish + 11.9% Anatolia_ChL @ 3.69
    20 97.7% French + 2.3% Masai @ 3.7

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    Ethnic group
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    Country: Australia



    FTDNA

    Population
    SE_ASIAN -
    ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 21.94
    CHG_EEF 29.40
    POLAR -
    EHG 8.00
    SUB_SAHARAN 0.58
    IRAN_NEOLITHIC 16.07
    KARITIANA 1.26
    ANCESTRAL_INDIAN -
    NATUFIAN 16.20
    SIBERIAN 2.41
    PAPUAN -
    SHG_WHG 4.15





    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 CHG_EEF 29.4
    2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 21.94
    3 NATUFIAN 16.2
    4 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 16.07
    5 EHG 8
    6 SHG_WHG 4.15
    7 SIBERIAN 2.41
    8 KARITIANA 1.26
    9 SUB_SAHARAN 0.58

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Sicilian 6.54
    2 Jew_Ashkenazi 8.15
    3 Jew_Moroccan 9.58
    4 Greek 10.08
    5 Italian_South 10.75
    6 Turkish 11.14
    7 Cypriot 11.52
    8 Turkish_Istanbul 11.62
    9 Albanian 12.44
    10 Turkish_Balekesir 14.17
    11 Jew_Tunisian 14.29
    12 Turkish_Adana 14.3
    13 Turkish_Aydin 14.62
    14 Jew_Libyan 14.68
    15 Turkish_Kayseri 14.72
    16 Lebanese 16.54
    17 Bulgarian 16.7
    18 Turkish_Trabzon 19
    19 Druze 19.47
    20 Romanian 19.98

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 82.6% Jew_Ashkenazi + 17.4% Armenia_ChL @ 3.44
    2 85.4% Jew_Ashkenazi + 14.6% Anatolia_ChL @ 3.51
    3 75.4% Cypriot + 24.6% Europe_LNBA @ 3.57
    4 86.8% Sicilian + 13.2% Armenia_ChL @ 3.79
    5 87.4% Sicilian + 12.6% Armenia_MLBA @ 4
    6 89.5% Sicilian + 10.5% Iran_recent @ 4.16
    7 92.7% Sicilian + 7.3% Iran_ChL @ 4.59
    8 58% Albanian + 42% Lebanese @ 4.76
    9 84.6% Jew_Ashkenazi + 15.4% Armenia_MLBA @ 4.88
    10 76.2% Sicilian + 23.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 4.91
    11 90.9% Sicilian + 9.1% Anatolia_ChL @ 4.94
    12 86.2% Sicilian + 13.8% Iranian_Lori @ 4.95
    13 87.3% Sicilian + 12.7% Kurd_C @ 4.98
    14 83.5% Sicilian + 16.5% Assyrian @ 4.98
    15 83.5% Sicilian + 16.5% Jew_Iranian @ 5
    16 83.2% Sicilian + 16.8% Jew_iraqi @ 5.01
    17 85.5% Sicilian + 14.5% Iranian @ 5.02
    18 82.7% Sicilian + 17.3% Azeri @ 5.03
    19 92.1% Sicilian + 7.9% Kurd_SE @ 5.05
    20 60.6% Cypriot + 39.4% Bulgarian @ 5.07

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Albanian +50% Lebanese @ 5.425326


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Cypriot +25% Cypriot +25% Europe_LNBA @ 3.705228


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Abkhasian + Jew_Yemenite + Russian + Stuttgart @ 3.072131
    2 Abkhasian + Finnish + Jew_Yemenite + Stuttgart @ 3.139192
    3 Croatian + Jew_Yemenite + Lezgin + Stuttgart @ 3.196559
    4 Hungarian + Jew_Yemenite + Lezgin + Stuttgart @ 3.216497
    5 Chechen + Hungarian + Jew_Yemenite + Stuttgart @ 3.349466
    6 Georgian + Jew_Yemenite + Russian + Stuttgart @ 3.384795
    7 Jew_Yemenite + Lezgin + Romanian + Stuttgart @ 3.400676
    8 Chechen + Croatian + Jew_Yemenite + Stuttgart @ 3.409826
    9 Chechen + Jew_Yemenite + Stuttgart + Ukrainian @ 3.414520
    10 Abkhasian + Russian + Saudi + Stuttgart @ 3.446974
    11 Jew_Yemenite + Lezgin + Stuttgart + Ukrainian @ 3.453360
    12 Finnish + Georgian + Jew_Yemenite + Stuttgart @ 3.464771
    13 Lezgin + Romanian + Saudi + Stuttgart @ 3.534611
    14 Bulgarian + Lezgin + Saudi + Stuttgart @ 3.546571
    15 Abkhasian + Finnish + Saudi + Stuttgart @ 3.567332
    16 Abkhasian + Jew_Yemenite + Norwegian + Stuttgart @ 3.577294
    17 Adygei + Jew_Yemenite + Stuttgart + Ukrainian @ 3.597269
    18 Croatian + Lezgin + Saudi + Stuttgart @ 3.604549
    19 Chechen + Jew_Yemenite + Romanian + Stuttgart @ 3.620667
    20 French + Jew_Yemenite + Lezgin + Stuttgart @ 3.634758

    23andme

    Population
    SE_ASIAN -
    ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 21.71
    CHG_EEF 30.80
    POLAR -
    EHG 7.44
    SUB_SAHARAN 1.05
    IRAN_NEOLITHIC 16.21
    KARITIANA 1.05
    ANCESTRAL_INDIAN -
    NATUFIAN 15.65
    SIBERIAN 1.94
    PAPUAN -
    SHG_WHG 4.15


    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Sicilian 5.42
    2 Jew_Ashkenazi 7.14
    3 Greek 8.88
    4 Italian_South 9.38
    5 Jew_Moroccan 9.63
    6 Turkish 10.92
    7 Turkish_Istanbul 11.04
    8 Albanian 11.38
    9 Cypriot 11.62
    10 Turkish_Balekesir 13.86
    11 Turkish_Adana 14.2
    12 Turkish_Aydin 14.55
    13 Jew_Tunisian 14.66
    14 Turkish_Kayseri 14.7
    15 Jew_Libyan 15.08
    16 Bulgarian 15.82
    17 Lebanese 16.92
    18 Turkish_Trabzon 18.6
    19 Romanian 19.09
    20 Balkar 19.6

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 88.8% Sicilian + 11.2% Armenia_MLBA @ 2.82
    2 84.6% Jew_Ashkenazi + 15.4% Armenia_ChL @ 2.83
    3 88.9% Sicilian + 11.1% Armenia_ChL @ 3.05
    4 90.8% Sicilian + 9.2% Iran_recent @ 3.1
    5 87.2% Jew_Ashkenazi + 12.8% Anatolia_ChL @ 3.15
    6 93.3% Sicilian + 6.7% Iran_ChL @ 3.34
    7 60.5% Albanian + 39.5% Lebanese @ 3.58
    8 87.1% Sicilian + 12.9% Iranian_Lori @ 3.68
    9 78.2% Sicilian + 21.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.69
    10 88.2% Sicilian + 11.8% Kurd_C @ 3.7
    11 75.3% Cypriot + 24.7% Europe_LNBA @ 3.72
    12 95.7% Sicilian + 4.3% Iran_LN @ 3.74
    13 95.7% Sicilian + 4.3% Iran_N @ 3.74
    14 83.8% Sicilian + 16.2% Azeri @ 3.75
    15 86.6% Sicilian + 13.4% Iranian @ 3.78
    16 84.8% Sicilian + 15.2% Assyrian @ 3.78
    17 85.2% Sicilian + 14.8% Jew_Iranian @ 3.86
    18 78.4% Sicilian + 21.6% Turkish_Adana @ 3.9
    19 85.9% Jew_Ashkenazi + 14.1% Armenia_MLBA @ 3.91
    20 58.4% Cypriot + 41.6% Bulgarian @ 3.94
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Albanian +50% Cypriot @ 4.316258


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Jew_Moroccan +25% Lezgin +25% Sardinian @ 3.762749


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Abkhasian + Finnish + Jew_Yemenite + Stuttgart @ 2.946919
    2 Chechen + Lebanese + Sardinian + Sicilian @ 2.950096
    3 Abkhasian + Estonian + Jew_Yemenite + Stuttgart @ 3.022859
    4 Lezgin + Palestinian + Romanian + Stuttgart @ 3.023633
    5 Abkhasian + Jew_Yemenite + Norwegian + Stuttgart @ 3.047724
    6 Abkhasian + Jew_Yemenite + Russian + Stuttgart @ 3.065995
    7 Albanian + Chechen + Palestinian + Sardinian @ 3.080623
    8 Abkhasian + Icelandic + Jew_Yemenite + Stuttgart @ 3.140201
    9 Chechen + Jordanian + Sardinian + Sicilian @ 3.158918
    10 Finnish + Georgian + Jew_Yemenite + Stuttgart @ 3.187462
    11 Abkhasian + Finnish + Saudi + Stuttgart @ 3.189929
    12 Abkhasian + Norwegian + Saudi + Stuttgart @ 3.201549
    13 Lebanese + Lezgin + Sardinian + Sicilian @ 3.222866
    14 Abkhasian + Russian + Saudi + Stuttgart @ 3.226843
    15 Chechen + Palestinian + Romanian + Stuttgart @ 3.231264
    16 Croatian + Lezgin + Palestinian + Stuttgart @ 3.238653
    17 BedouinA + Lezgin + Romanian + Stuttgart @ 3.258610
    18 Bulgarian + Lezgin + Palestinian + Stuttgart @ 3.269139
    19 Georgian + Jew_Yemenite + Russian + Stuttgart @ 3.270578
    20 Abkhasian + Icelandic + Saudi + Stuttgart @ 3.281149

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    ^^ Yours is very close to a Sicilian cousin of mine with ancestry from Palermo province. She has given me permission to post hers.

    # Population Percent
    1 CHG_EEF 27.92
    2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 23.74
    3 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 16.92
    4 NATUFIAN 15.29
    5 SHG_WHG 6.34
    6 EHG 4.04
    7 SUB_SAHARAN 2.91
    8 PAPUAN 1.17
    9 KARITIANA 0.83
    10 SIBERIAN 0.83

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Sicilian 7.65
    2 Jew_Moroccan 8.67
    3 Jew_Ashkenazi 9.42
    4 Greek 11.29
    5 Italian_South 11.54
    6 Cypriot 11.62
    7 Turkish 13.07
    8 Turkish_Istanbul 13.59
    9 Albanian 13.81
    10 Jew_Libyan 14.26
    11 Jew_Tunisian 14.27
    12 Turkish_Adana 15.36
    13 Turkish_Balekesir 15.48
    14 Turkish_Kayseri 15.66
    15 Turkish_Aydin 15.97
    16 Lebanese 16.34
    17 Bulgarian 18.32
    18 Turkish_Trabzon 18.87
    19 Druze 19.76
    20 Jordanian 20.07

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 86.6% Sicilian + 13.4% Iran_recent @ 4.12
    2 83.3% Jew_Ashkenazi + 16.7% Anatolia_ChL @ 4.33
    3 90.3% Sicilian + 9.7% Iran_ChL @ 4.55
    4 85.1% Sicilian + 14.9% Armenia_ChL @ 4.71
    5 80.9% Jew_Ashkenazi + 19.1% Armenia_ChL @ 4.78
    6 63.1% Turkish_Adana + 36.9% Sardinian @ 5.2
    7 86.6% Sicilian + 13.4% Armenia_MLBA @ 5.29
    8 62.7% Turkish_Kayseri + 37.3% Sardinian @ 5.39
    9 88.7% Sicilian + 11.3% Anatolia_ChL @ 5.5
    10 52.2% Sardinian + 47.8% Iranian_Lori @ 5.55
    11 54.3% Azeri + 45.7% Sardinian @ 5.7
    12 50.6% Sardinian + 49.4% Iranian @ 5.73
    13 52.3% Sardinian + 47.7% Iranian_Shirazi @ 5.76
    14 94.5% Sicilian + 5.5% Iran_LN @ 5.78
    15 94.5% Sicilian + 5.5% Iran_N @ 5.78
    16 53.5% Jew_Iranian + 46.5% Sardinian @ 5.84
    17 56% Syrian + 44% Sardinian @ 5.89
    18 53.8% Assyrian + 46.2% Sardinian @ 5.93
    19 77.7% Italian_South + 22.3% Armenia_ChL @ 6.07
    20 76.5% Sicilian + 23.5% Lebanese @ 6.07

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    Population - Father's / Mother's / Mine - 23andMe / Mine - FTDNA

    SE_ASIAN - 0 / 0 / 0 / 0
    ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC - 23.00 / 21.52 / 23.19 / 21.85
    CHG_EEF - 35.44 / 38.75 / 34.65 / 35.35
    POLAR - 0 / 0 / 0.26 / 0.11
    EHG - 12.86 / 11.85 / 11.10 / 11.73
    SUB_SAHARAN - 0 / 0.82 / 0 / 0
    IRAN_NEOLITHIC - 7.11 / 7.23 / 9.99 / 10.01
    KARITIANA - 0 / 1.64 / 0.43 / 0.43
    ANCESTRAL_INDIAN - 0.75 / 0 / 0.66 / 0.70
    NATUFIAN - 10.04 / 7.73 / 10.13 / 10.26
    SIBERIAN - 0.53 / 0 / 0 / 0
    PAPUAN - 0.89 / 0 / 0 / 0
    SHG_WHG - 9.37 / 10.45 / 9.58 / 9.56


    1 Albanian 6.37 / Bulgarian 3.88 / Albanian 5.31 / Albanian 5.1
    2 Bulgarian / Romanian / Greek / Bulgarian
    3 Greek / Albanian / Bulgarian / Greek
    4 Romanian / Greek / Sicilian / Sicilian
    5 Sicilian / French / Romanian / Romanian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight View Post
    Here are the results for Temrta IV, a sample from the Yamna Horizon page. If this is correct, I wonder if the Indo-Europeans learned farming via the Zagro's mountain people.

    http://www.eupedia.com/genetics/yamna_culture.shtml

    Near East Neolithic K13 Oracle results:

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    Kit F999968

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 EHG 91.64
    2 CHG_EEF 6.82
    3 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 1.03
    4 SHG_WHG 0.41
    5 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Steppe_EMBA 7.64
    2 EHG 9.98
    3 Steppe_Eneolithic 15.97
    4 MA1 33.78
    5 Steppe_MLBA 50.16
    6 Steppe_IA 54.08
    7 Europe_LNBA 63.93
    8 Mansi 76.88
    9 Russian 78.35
    10 Tajik 78.87
    11 Finnish 78.93
    12 Estonian 79.69
    13 Norwegian 80.03
    14 English 80.44
    15 Lezgin 80.47
    16 Icelandic 80.58
    17 Ukrainian 80.61
    18 Chechen 80.72
    19 Lithuanian 81.11
    20 Scottish 81.45

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 92.4% EHG + 7.6% CHG @ 1.46
    2 94.3% Steppe_EMBA + 5.7% CHG @ 2.23
    3 83.8% EHG + 16.2% Steppe_MLBA @ 2.3
    4 89.2% EHG + 10.8% Norwegian @ 2.32
    5 89.1% EHG + 10.9% Estonian @ 2.38
    6 89.3% EHG + 10.7% Icelandic @ 2.39
    7 89.3% EHG + 10.7% Lithuanian @ 2.42
    8 89.3% EHG + 10.7% Ukrainian @ 2.46
    9 89.5% EHG + 10.5% Czech @ 2.53
    10 89.1% EHG + 10.9% Finnish @ 2.54
    11 89.3% EHG + 10.7% English @ 2.56
    12 89.4% EHG + 10.6% Scottish @ 2.56
    13 89% EHG + 11% Russian @ 2.57
    14 89.5% EHG + 10.5% Hungarian @ 2.65
    15 89.7% EHG + 10.3% Croatian @ 2.71
    16 89.7% EHG + 10.3% French @ 2.99
    17 89.8% EHG + 10.2% Romanian @ 3
    18 89.8% EHG + 10.2% Bulgarian @ 3.25
    19 87.2% EHG + 12.8% Europe_LNBA @ 3.36
    20 90.2% EHG + 9.8% Albanian @ 3.57
    Plesse read the opening post oft the thread. I clearly mentioned that the calculator is not good for ancient samples and gives incorrect results. Only use it for modern samples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Italian (north)

    Population - Father's / Mother's / Mine - 23andMe / Mine - FTDNA

    SE_ASIAN - 0 / 0 / 0 / 0
    ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC - 23.00 / 21.52 / 23.19 / 21.85
    CHG_EEF - 35.44 / 38.75 / 34.65 / 35.35
    POLAR - 0 / 0 / 0.26 / 0.11
    EHG - 12.86 / 11.85 / 11.10 / 11.73
    SUB_SAHARAN - 0 / 0.82 / 0 / 0
    IRAN_NEOLITHIC - 7.11 / 7.23 / 9.99 / 10.01
    KARITIANA - 0 / 1.64 / 0.43 / 0.43
    ANCESTRAL_INDIAN - 0.75 / 0 / 0.66 / 0.70
    NATUFIAN - 10.04 / 7.73 / 10.13 / 10.26
    SIBERIAN - 0.53 / 0 / 0 / 0
    PAPUAN - 0.89 / 0 / 0 / 0
    SHG_WHG - 9.37 / 10.45 / 9.58 / 9.56


    1 Albanian 6.37 / Bulgarian 3.88 / Albanian 5.31 / Albanian 5.1
    2 Bulgarian / Romanian / Greek / Bulgarian
    3 Greek / Albanian / Bulgarian / Greek
    4 Romanian / Greek / Sicilian / Sicilian
    5 Sicilian / French / Romanian / Romanian
    I would bet he has no Northern Italian or Tuscan reference samples, which makes no sense, because they're freely available.

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    my result/FTDNA:

    SE_ASIAN -
    ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 8.48
    CHG_EEF 8.52
    POLAR -
    EHG -
    SUB_SAHARAN 52.54
    IRAN_NEOLITHIC 6.80
    KARITIANA 1.06
    ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 0.24
    NATUFIAN 20.89
    SIBERIAN 1.17
    PAPUAN 0.16
    SHG_WHG 0.14

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I would bet he has no Northern Italian or Tuscan reference samples, which makes no sense, because they're freely available.
    Agreed, Angela. In my case, neither Northern Italian nor Tuscan has been listed among the top 20. This would be impossible if the two populations were being used as references. And I cannot understand why they aren't. It doesn't make sense, indeed.
    Last edited by Regio X; 25-07-16 at 16:25.

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