Eupedia Forums
Site NavigationEupedia Top > Eupedia Forum & Japan Forum
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 30

Thread: moderate Muslim rebels at work in Syria

  1. #1
    Advisor bicicleur's Avatar
    Join Date
    27-01-13
    Location
    Zwevegem, Belgium
    Posts
    5,731


    Country: Belgium - Flanders



    moderate Muslim rebels at work in Syria

    the Noureddine Zinki warriors are supported by the US as 'moderate rebels'
    they beheaded a 13 year old boy

    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/960/Buitenland/article/detail/2800344/2016/07/20/Syrische-rebellen-onthoofden-kind-in-video.dhtml

    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/960/Buitenland/article/detail/2800344/2016/07/20/Syrische-rebellen-onthoofden-kind-in-video.dhtml

    now the leaders of this group say it was 'an individual mistake' and this is not their policy

    why don't I trust these guys anymore?

  2. #2
    Banned
    Join Date
    05-09-15
    Posts
    2,070


    Ethnic group
    Albanian
    Country: Albania



    Quote Originally Posted by bicicleur View Post
    the Noureddine Zinki warriors are supported by the US as 'moderate rebels'
    they beheaded a 13 year old boy

    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/960/Buitenland/article/detail/2800344/2016/07/20/Syrische-rebellen-onthoofden-kind-in-video.dhtml

    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/960/Buitenland/article/detail/2800344/2016/07/20/Syrische-rebellen-onthoofden-kind-in-video.dhtml

    now the leaders of this group say it was 'an individual mistake' and this is not their policy

    why don't I trust these guys anymore?
    Because bombs exploded in your home and you can not trust anyone, not just this guys.

  3. #3
    Advisor bicicleur's Avatar
    Join Date
    27-01-13
    Location
    Zwevegem, Belgium
    Posts
    5,731


    Country: Belgium - Flanders



    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post
    Because bombs exploded in your home and you can not trust anyone, not just this guys.
    to many people have been raised with hate against the 'infidels'
    and not only hate, also despise, they feel the 'infidels' should be killed

  4. #4
    Banned
    Join Date
    05-09-15
    Posts
    2,070


    Ethnic group
    Albanian
    Country: Albania



    Quote Originally Posted by bicicleur View Post
    to many people have been raised with hate against the 'infidels'
    and not only hate, also despise, they feel the 'infidels' should be killed
    They can think what they want. At the end of the day when they see their face on the mirror, they understand everything.

  5. #5
    Advisor bicicleur's Avatar
    Join Date
    27-01-13
    Location
    Zwevegem, Belgium
    Posts
    5,731


    Country: Belgium - Flanders



    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post
    They can think what they want. At the end of the day when they see their face on the mirror, they understand everything.
    but their victims can't

  6. #6
    Banned
    Join Date
    05-09-15
    Posts
    2,070


    Ethnic group
    Albanian
    Country: Albania



    Quote Originally Posted by bicicleur View Post
    but their victims can't
    Unfortunately yes. What can we do? Let's kill them all?

  7. #7
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    17-03-13
    Posts
    770


    Country: Sweden



    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post
    Unfortunately yes. What can we do? Let's kill them all?
    Always Look on the Bright Side of Life - Monty Python's Life of Brian
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ

  8. #8
    Advisor LeBrok's Avatar
    Join Date
    18-11-09
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    10,295

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b Z2109
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1c

    Ethnic group
    Citizen of the world
    Country: Canada-Alberta



    Quote Originally Posted by bicicleur View Post
    the Noureddine Zinki warriors are supported by the US as 'moderate rebels'
    they beheaded a 13 year old boy

    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/960/Buitenland/article/detail/2800344/2016/07/20/Syrische-rebellen-onthoofden-kind-in-video.dhtml

    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/960/Buitenland/article/detail/2800344/2016/07/20/Syrische-rebellen-onthoofden-kind-in-video.dhtml

    now the leaders of this group say it was 'an individual mistake' and this is not their policy

    why don't I trust these guys anymore?
    Is it Muslim bashing? Just tell us that you know one Muslim that you like.
    Because, if this thread is only created for Muslim bashing, it is racist in it's nature and is against Eupedia rules and should be deleted. You should delete it as a moderator.
    Be wary of people who tend to glorify the past, underestimate the present, and demonize the future.

  9. #9
    Advisor bicicleur's Avatar
    Join Date
    27-01-13
    Location
    Zwevegem, Belgium
    Posts
    5,731


    Country: Belgium - Flanders



    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post
    Unfortunately yes. What can we do? Let's kill them all?
    that is not the question, it is should the US keep on supporting these so-called 'moderate rebels' in Syria

  10. #10
    Banned
    Join Date
    05-09-15
    Posts
    2,070


    Ethnic group
    Albanian
    Country: Albania



    Quote Originally Posted by bicicleur View Post
    that is not the question, it is should the US keep on supporting these so-called 'moderate Muslim rebels' in Syria
    But they have to support one side in the conflict. Or you are suggesting that USA should stop making foreign policy?

  11. #11
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    17-03-13
    Posts
    770


    Country: Sweden



    " Or you are suggesting that USA should stop making foreign policy?"

    Make Love Not War.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMWys3lBvEk

  12. #12
    Banned
    Join Date
    05-09-15
    Posts
    2,070


    Ethnic group
    Albanian
    Country: Albania



    Quote Originally Posted by gyms View Post
    " Or you are suggesting that USA should stop making foreign policy?"

    Make Love Not War.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMWys3lBvEk
    Yep, i agree with you. Of course after the end of this war people will start again to make love.

  13. #13
    Regular Member Dinarid's Avatar
    Join Date
    26-05-16
    Location
    Islamic-occupied Croatian Herzegovina
    Posts
    413

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    I2a1b – Dinaric
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1

    Ethnic group
    Herzegovinan Croat
    Country: Bosnia & Herzegovina



    The USA should support the Kurds against both Assad and the FSA. I'm so tired of all the anti-America, anti-Israel Eurasianists on the internet peddling their **** that Assad is some kind of anti-Islamist hero when he's been propped up by the Mullah regime in Iran.

  14. #14
    Regular Member VMRO1893's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-09-15
    Posts
    52

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    I2a1b

    Ethnic group
    Macedonian
    Country: Macedonia



    Quote Originally Posted by Dinarid View Post
    The USA should support the Kurds against both Assad and the FSA. I'm so tired of all the anti-America, anti-Israel Eurasianists on the internet peddling their **** that Assad is some kind of anti-Islamist hero when he's been propped up by the Mullah regime in Iran.
    Why does the US need to support anyone? Why can't they just get the hell out of there?

  15. #15
    Regular Member Dinarid's Avatar
    Join Date
    26-05-16
    Location
    Islamic-occupied Croatian Herzegovina
    Posts
    413

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    I2a1b – Dinaric
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1

    Ethnic group
    Herzegovinan Croat
    Country: Bosnia & Herzegovina



    Quote Originally Posted by VMRO1893 View Post
    Why does the US need to support anyone? Why can't they just get the hell out of there?
    Because the situation is of global concern, especially with what's happening to the ethnic minorities.

  16. #16
    Regular Member VMRO1893's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-09-15
    Posts
    52

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    I2a1b

    Ethnic group
    Macedonian
    Country: Macedonia



    Quote Originally Posted by Dinarid View Post
    Because the situation is of global concern, especially with what's happening to the ethnic minorities.
    And who made it a 'global concern'?

  17. #17
    Banned
    Join Date
    05-09-15
    Posts
    2,070


    Ethnic group
    Albanian
    Country: Albania



    Quote Originally Posted by VMRO1893 View Post
    Why does the US need to support anyone? Why can't they just get the hell out of there?
    It's not a problem to give an answer to this question. But i think this is not the right question to do speaking about Syria. The right question is: Why the hell Russia from two generations is supporting the criminal family of Assad and the clan behind this family? Because from two generations Assad, father and son continue to kill this people and destroy this country. Why the hell Russia support this criminal regime?

  18. #18
    Regular Member VMRO1893's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-09-15
    Posts
    52

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    I2a1b

    Ethnic group
    Macedonian
    Country: Macedonia



    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post
    It's not a problem to give an answer to this question. But i think this is not the right question to do speaking about Syria. The right question is: Why the hell Russia from two generations is supporting the criminal family of Assad and the clan behind this family? Because from two generations Assad, father and son continue to kill this people and destroy this country. Why the hell Russia support this criminal regime?
    the same reason the us supports the saudis and other brutal regimes - personal interest

  19. #19
    Banned
    Join Date
    05-09-15
    Posts
    2,070


    Ethnic group
    Albanian
    Country: Albania



    Quote Originally Posted by VMRO1893 View Post
    the same reason the us supports the saudis and other brutal regimes - personal interest
    A reasonable answer but that don't don't explain the current situation. Because we are discussing about Syria first of all. And the second reason is that we are discussing about the situation in a specific region. And when you want to discuss about this situation you have to know that there are priorities. And the priority in this region is the current situation in Syria. This situation can be resolved if Russia stop to support this criminal regime. So the main problem is not Assad, but Russia.

  20. #20
    Regular Member VMRO1893's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-09-15
    Posts
    52

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    I2a1b

    Ethnic group
    Macedonian
    Country: Macedonia



    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post
    A reasonable answer but that don't don't explain the current situation. Because we are discussing about Syria first of all. And the second reason is that we are discussing about the situation in a specific region. And when you want to discuss about this situation you have to know that there are priorities. And the priority in this region is the current situation in Syria. This situation can be resolved if Russia stop to support this criminal regime. So the main problem is not Assad, but Russia.
    so you think an assad-free syria will be peaceful?

  21. #21
    Banned
    Join Date
    05-09-15
    Posts
    2,070


    Ethnic group
    Albanian
    Country: Albania



    Quote Originally Posted by VMRO1893 View Post
    so you think an assad-free syria will be peaceful?
    I think that in an imediate Assad-free Syria, will be a period of transition from dictature to an democratic society. From country to country this period of transition is different for various reason. Depends also how able are the Syrians to "swim in the water of this sea".

  22. #22
    Advisor bicicleur's Avatar
    Join Date
    27-01-13
    Location
    Zwevegem, Belgium
    Posts
    5,731


    Country: Belgium - Flanders



    I agree they should support the Kurds who seem the only reliable allies.
    If you have to fight Assad with rebels who behead their opposition it's better to leave Assad in place.

    And the Europeans criticizing .. they should better do something about it themselves or keep their mouth shut.

    The Saudis shouldn't be allies to the west. Furthermore the west is becoming less and less denpendent on their oil. If oil prices drop further and the Saudi keep spending money like they do now, they'll be bankrupt in a few years.
    But even if you don't support the Saudi regime, Saudi-Arabia is a dangerous country with a part of the population that is fanatic fundamentalist Muslim.

  23. #23
    Advisor bicicleur's Avatar
    Join Date
    27-01-13
    Location
    Zwevegem, Belgium
    Posts
    5,731


    Country: Belgium - Flanders



    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post
    I think that in an imediate Assad-free Syria, will be a period of transition from dictature to an democratic society. From country to country this period of transition is different for various reason. Depends also how able are the Syrians to "swim in the water of this sea".
    I don't think they are.
    The whole Arab spring is a failure.
    See what happens in Turkey.
    I don't think Syria will do any better.
    I don't know how this should be solved.

  24. #24
    Banned
    Join Date
    05-09-15
    Posts
    2,070


    Ethnic group
    Albanian
    Country: Albania



    Quote Originally Posted by bicicleur View Post
    I don't think they are.
    The whole Arab spring is a failure.
    See what happens in Turkey.
    I don't think Syria will do any better.
    I don't know how this should be solved.
    Turkey is not an Arab country. Calling them Arabs they will consider this very offensive.

  25. #25
    Advisor bicicleur's Avatar
    Join Date
    27-01-13
    Location
    Zwevegem, Belgium
    Posts
    5,731


    Country: Belgium - Flanders



    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post
    Turkey is not an Arab country. Calling them Arabs they will consider this very offensive.
    I didn't.
    But it's a country derailing, and it is supported by a population that likes the fascistic Islam rhetoric of his leader.
    They truly believe they are superior. The ones that don't share their views are enemies.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •