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    Romanian






    Course of Vulgar Latin(ethnographic-oriented)


    The melodies are really old,but it is
    the shepherds' creativty that always
    changes the verses,it goes like this:


    "When the breasts are like apples
    To girls the hair grows"

    The boys have come from Jina,Marginimea Sibiului,one of the
    main hot-spots of Vlachness,their singing and verse styles are surely pastoral.
    Last edited by Diurpaneus; 12-08-16 at 13:44.

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    Old Wallachian song

    "My darling with black scarf
    I would eat your tongue from the mouth
    And a dimple in the cheek,and a dimple in the cheek
    What the hell are you doing when you're in trouble?"





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    stock-photo-portrait-of-young-beautiful-woman-posing-outside-in-romanian-traditional-costume-145.jpg

    The word for darling is mandra,literally "The Proud One".

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    Who Am I?
    I am this tone named Alexandru.





    The emperor did not relent, but every year he marched into Bulgaria and laid
    waste and ravaged all before him. Samuel was not able to resist openly, nor to
    face the emperor in open warfare, so, weakened from all sides, he came down
    from his lofty lair to fortify the entrance to Bulgaria with ditches and fences.
    Knowing that the emperor always made his incursions through the [plain]
    known as Campu Lungu and [the pass known as] Kleidion (‘the key’), he undertook
    to fortify the difficult terrain to deny the emperor access. A wall was built
    across the whole width [of the pass] and worthy defenders were committed to
    it to stand against the emperor.When he arrived and made an attempt to enter
    [Bulgaria], the guards defended the wall manfully and bombarded and
    wounded the attackers from above. When the emperor had thus despaired of
    gaining passage, Nicephorus Xiphias, the strategos of Philippopolis,met with the
    emperor and urged him to stay put and continue to assault the wall, while, as
    he explained, he turned back with his men and, heading round to the south of
    Kleidion through rough and trackless country, crossed the very high mountain
    known as Belasica. On  July, in the twelfth indiction [, Xiphias and his
    men] descended suddenly on the Bulgarians, from behind and screaming battle
    cries. Panic stricken by the sudden assault [the Bulgarians] turned to flee, while
    the emperor broke through the abandoned wall. Many [Bulgarians] fell and
    many more were captured; Samuel barely escaped from danger with the aid of
    his son, who fought nobly against his attackers, placed him on a horse, and
    made for the fortress known as Prilep"
    (Byzantium's Balkan Frontier)

    "Basil II was defeated by Samuel at a pass called Kimba Longus or Kleidion which is almost surely the equivalent of the Rumanian Campulung (Campus longus), a frequently-used place name."

    http://www.kroraina.com/bulgar/wolff_appA.html

    Traditional costumes from Arges(unique in Romania):


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    CostumeTraditionaleArges_1.jpg

    Macedonian costumes:

    tanevska-costume.jpg
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    the music is written by Markopoulos at 1979
    based on the Makedonikos dance Συρτος Syrtos or to the local idiom Domakini = housekeeper (Domos-a = house Δομη=structure)
    and the poem is older by Panos Theodoridis
    first singer was G Ntalaras.
    and later performer is P Gaetanos
    and is dedicated to the mother of Alexander the Great,
    a song dedicated to the mother who's only son has left her alone.

    the prototype of virgin Mairy, the mother in big pain.
    the poorless mother who lost her son.




    the origianal lyrics by poet Theodoridis

    At Macedonia of old times
    I met Alexander's mother
    She started chatting with me at the countrysides
    She was working at night with witches


    Oh wonderful Macedonia
    Why are you crying and melting like a candle
    I have an only son, poor me,
    And he's gone to the East


    Dangers and ambushes waiting for him
    Dark words of people and calamities
    Alone he stands them and he passes
    His torments doesn't have an ending


    At Macedonia of old times
    I met Alexander's mother
    At the moon she's searching for witches
    In her dream she brings the Greeks


    an old video by first performer from 80's








    Last edited by Yetos; 13-08-16 at 05:56.
    ΟΘΕΝ ΑΙΔΩΣ OY EINAI
    ΑΤΗ ΛΑΜΒΑΝΕΙΝ ΑΥΤΟΙΣ
    ΥΒΡΙΣ ΓΕΝΝΑΤΑΙ
    ΝΕΜΕΣΙΣ ΚΑΙ ΤΙΣΗ ΑΚΟΛΟΥΘΟΥΣΙ ΔΕ

    When there is no shame
    Divine blindness conquers them
    Hybris (abuse, opprombium) is born
    Nemesis and punishment follows.

    Εχε υπομονη Ηρωα
    Η τιμωρια δεν αργει.

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    Vlach song from Macedonia:






    The singers experience a reserved joy that is marked by a certain degree of contemplation at their
    meeting with nature.
    Their melody speaks of high mountains,orchards,that makes the heart to be "full of charms",


    "A lea inima a mea, lea, inima a mea
    mplinâ cu farmatse, lea inima a mea
    mplinâ cu farmatse. "

    http://cincari.org/muzika/A_lai_munte_analtu.html


    but these moments are spoiled by loneliness, remembering that they don't
    have an older brother or sister to care about them.
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    The feelings are genuine,because the word for charms is a Latin one,
    farmatse,farmece in Romanian;despite complaining,they are not selfish
    and wish to all to be healthy.

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/farmec

    A real example of decency,without a doubt.
    They can afford it,because, returning from the middle
    of nature,the melancholy and loneliness become only
    two strangers.
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    An old Romanian song from Banat:





    Little Moon,little Moon
    On the little street,in the night
    Make me a little light
    On the slope ,in the night


    In the evening I will stay
    From the village far away
    With two horses
    coloured like doves


    I didn't stole them
    But I bought them
    From the village,from Banat
    The money to count
    At the Moon's rays
    That,like a fountain,cries


    The singer is blind,but he sees the Moon as a lover,
    addressing with the diminutive.
    In fact, almost every word is involved in this process,he starts his lament
    by asking the Moon to make light for keeping him out of the sad loneliness.
    His sole hope came from the only other living beings,his horses,that carefully
    became the messengers of love, to fly beyond the barriers of the two Worlds and
    finally reach the Moon.


    These songs are dedicated to all the Romanian and Vlach women.

    EDIT

    The original verse is "I have counted the money",
    but I haven't found a proper rhyme.

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    "The shepherd that has lost his sheeps" is a common Romanian theme,one
    that has the power to reach the lyrical peak.

    The shepherd becomes a wandering Sisyphus, condemned by his own ambition,
    he starts an useless search,finding only stones instead of sheeps.






    "But, in the poetry edition among many shepherd songs we can
    find one poem entitled: Wołoszyn owce rozproszył [the Vlach who had lost his sheep]
    from O. Kolberg’s collection, discovered in Poznan."

    https://www.google.ro/url?sa=t&rct=j...29422649,d.bGs

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    "The shepherd that has lost his sheeps" is a common Romanian theme,one
    that has the power to reach the lyrical peak.

    The shepherd becomes a wandering Sisyphus, condemned by his own ambition,
    he starts an useless search,finding only stones instead of sheeps.




    "But, in the poetry edition among many shepherd songs we can
    find one poem entitled: Wołoszyn owce rozproszył [the Vlach who had lost his sheep]
    from O. Kolberg’s collection, discovered in Poznan."

    https://www.google.ro/url?sa=t&rct=j...29422649,d.bGs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    the music is written by Markopoulos at 1979
    based on the Makedonikos dance Συρτος Syrtos or to the local idiom Domakini = housekeeper (Domos-a = house Δομη=structure)
    and the poem is older by Panos Theodoridis
    first singer was G Ntalaras.
    and later performer is P Gaetanos
    and is dedicated to the mother of Alexander the Great,
    a song dedicated to the mother who's only son has left her alone.

    the prototype of virgin Mairy, the mother in big pain.
    the poorless mother who lost her son.






    I like alot the women from my father's county,Arges,an example of true grace and wit, always optimistic,tender and lively,although they have a more discrete appearance,not related to coldness or solemnity,it's just that these characteristics
    aren't boosted,like in the case of the Italian,the attitude surely doesn't lack,but they are less aggressive than
    ragazzas.Of course,these attributes imply sensitivity.


    This is a clear picture of them:

    11650911_10204849154688420_28550973_n.jpg

    But, SW of Arges there is a region called Oltenia that strongly resembles ,
    probably coincidentally,Italy,there is a great rivalry between these lands,
    for the peoples from Arges "oltean" is a pejorative term,that designates a
    way too inappropriate behaviour,this is alot,because they are too full of
    arrogance and not always placid.

    All of them,from Arges(don't look for the anthropological type
    ,the strong-Dinaric ones have far lesser chances to be models):

    ANA-MARIA-CIRSTEA-660x330.jpg

    ANDRADA-MATEI-4-660x330.jpg

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    dero-.jpg
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    Generalizing much? Stereotyping much? Passive aggressive much?

    Your comments are still obviously insulting.

    Be careful of whom you insult.

    These kinds of comments sound like something my grandfather would have said, and I don't want to tell you when he was born, or like something out of some bad Victorian novel. Even my father didn't talk like this, much less my husband or my son. None of them were or are threatened by, or feel emasculated by strong women, or fear competing with them.

    You people from the Balkans and eastern Europe really have to do some traveling and broaden your horizons; leave the sheep folds behind and come into the 21st or at least the 20th century.

    My goodness, who knew 50 years behind the Iron Curtain would still have such an effect.

    Who also knew people could write so many songs about sheep?

    See what I mean? Be careful about starting things that may not come to a good end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Generalizing much? Stereotyping much? Passive aggressive much?

    Your comments are still obviously insulting.

    Be careful of whom you insult.

    These kinds of comments sound like something my grandfather would have said, and I don't want to tell you when he was born, or like something out of some bad Victorian novel. Even my father didn't talk like this, much less my husband or my son. None of them were or are threatened by, or feel emasculated by strong women, or fear competing with them.

    You people from the Balkans and eastern Europe really have to do some traveling and broaden your horizons; leave the sheep folds behind and come into the 21st or at least the 20th century.

    My goodness, who knew 50 years behind the Iron Curtain would still have such an effect.

    Who also knew people could write so many songs about sheep?

    See what I mean? Be careful about starting things that may not come to a good end.
    There are certain risks when you conversate online 24/7.
    Don't get me wrong,I have nothing against the youngsters,but there
    has to be a differentiation.
    Another thing that I really don't understand is ,why do you insist so much that I should post further
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    Conversate is not a word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Generalizing much? Stereotyping much? Passive aggressive much?

    Your comments are still obviously insulting.

    Be careful of whom you insult.

    These kinds of comments sound like something my grandfather would have said, and I don't want to tell you when he was born, or like something out of some bad Victorian novel. Even my father didn't talk like this, much less my husband or my son. None of them were or are threatened by, or feel emasculated by strong women, or fear competing with them.

    You people from the Balkans and eastern Europe really have to do some traveling and broaden your horizons; leave the sheep folds behind and come into the 21st or at least the 20th century.

    My goodness, who knew 50 years behind the Iron Curtain would still have such an effect.

    Who also knew people could write so many songs about sheep?

    See what I mean? Be careful about starting things that may not come to a good end.
    As some people have said here before, the Balkans and Eastern Europe are regions that are not necessarily safe to travel to, because of things such as nationalism. Romanians and Hungarians hate each other. I know this, because I have had both of them as friends. Romanians tell me of stories as children where they've had Hungarians beat them up. It probably still happens even as adults. Serbs hate Hungarians, and Hungarians like Albanians. It's a whole warzone out there. Romania though, is a very nice country, despite all this.

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    The word exists in the dictionaries,LeBrok,it is the result of a
    regressive derivation from conversation.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conversate

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/conversate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diurpaneus View Post
    The word exists in the dictionaries,LeBrok,it is the result of a
    regressive derivation from conversation.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conversate

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/conversate
    That's a recent addition then. Sorry. I know English is not your first tongue.

    Anyway, to answer Angela ... It's good that people are waking up from the mayhem that ensues in the Balkans and Eastern Europe. Almost all those people despise each other, even Greeks and Turks etc. so it is very dangerous to venture out there. (that's a warning to anyone, who has never been there.) Always play it safe and do not loiter around. The mainstream media shelters people from the crimes that go on there. The Albanian and Serbian conflicts are just the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtue View Post
    That's a recent addition then. Sorry. I know English is not your first tongue.
    Nowadays not even Romanian is my native tongue,but I
    believe that I have something to say.

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    Diurpaneus, how can you spot the difference from the women from Arges county compared to other women from sub-Carpathians area from Romania?

    I live in Bucharest where as you know are people from all Romania and the only way I can tell someone is from Transylvania/Banat or Moldavia is their speaking accent.
    If they still have their accent and did not renounced at it.
    Not after their look.

    As for the folk music you put here, is nice.
    NOTE:
    dear mister admins can Romanian also be added at native languages?
    When you complete the details of your profile.

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    Simply a matter of spirit,the singer is an old demon from the Balkans nicknamed Kempes.

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