Ancient Eurasia K6

For one thing, all calculators aren't equal. If, despite all warnings not to take these very seriously in terms of the multi-population functions, you decide to look at them, I really think you need to stick to those that have ancient samples included, which means very recent ones. Kurd is particularly careful in doing them, so perhaps his most recent calculator results for a Basque person would be more informative.
 
I guess they examine different areas of the genome? And aren't Basques more isolated so they get patterns that aren't usually found in most other groups? Hence why this individual scored eastern mediteranean in one calculator and insanely northern in this one?
 
My results:

Ancient Eurasia K6 Admixture Proportions:

1West_European_Hunter_Gartherer43.79
2Natufian34.21
3Ancestral_North_Eurasian20.69
4Ancestral_South_Eurasian1.00
5East_Asian0.31
 
MyResults (ftdna)

Ancestry: Father (province of Potenza, Basilicata) and Mother (province of Agrigento, Sicilia)

Here are my results.

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1Natufian49.64
2West_European_Hunter_Gartherer29.33
3Ancestral_North_Eurasian18.01
4Sub_Saharan3.02
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian @ 1.701417
2 Jew_Ashkenazi @ 2.640211
3 Italian_South @ 2.939693
4 Greek @ 4.619377
5 Albanian @ 5.655882
6 Jew_Moroccan @ 6.363410
7 Jew_Libyan @ 7.693129
8 Jew_Tunisian @ 8.698251
9 Bulgarian @ 10.453441
10 Armenia_ChL @ 12.009364
11 Romanian @ 12.217484
12 Cypriot @ 12.628228
13 Turkish @ 15.538264
14 Spanish @ 15.631703
15 Croatian @ 16.040396
16 Lebanese @ 16.344213
17 Druze @ 16.779308
18 Jordanian @ 16.994999
19 Syrian @ 17.216311
20 Palestinian @ 17.319225

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Albanian +50% Jew_Moroccan @ 1.303951

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Albanian +25% Jew_Libyan +25% Jew_Moroccan @ 1.238990

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Italian_South + Jew_Moroccan + Jew_Moroccan + Spanish @ 0.917557
2 Albanian + Italian_South + Jew_Yemenite + Spanish @ 0.992575
3 Italian_South + Jew_Moroccan + Jew_Tunisian + Spanish @ 1.063880
4 Albanian + Jew_Yemenite + Sicilian + Spanish @ 1.073460
5 Italian_South + Jew_Libyan + Jew_Moroccan + Spanish @ 1.111087
6 Albanian + Italian_South + Saudi + Spanish @ 1.167838
7 BedouinA + English + Europe_EN + Georgian @ 1.174063
8 Albanian + Cypriot + Jew_Libyan + Spanish @ 1.176999
9 Albanian + English + Jew_Libyan + Levant_BA @ 1.181866
10 Basque + Italian_South + Jew_Yemenite + Sicilian @ 1.209549

I only used the first 10 of the 4 mixed mode populations.

 
What does out all mean basil. Lol

Ancestry: Father (Mirdita, Diber/Martanesh, Albania) and Mother (Puka, Albania, & Cameria)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Natufian 45.55
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 36.04
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 18.15
4 East_Asian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Albanian. 2.93
2 Bulgarian 3.86
3 Romanian 4.71
4 Greek 4.75
5 Sicilian 7.79
6 Croatian 8.28
7 Spanish 8.58
8 Italian_South 8.91
9 Jew_Ashkenazi 10.02
10 French 10.98
11 Hungarian 11.48
12 English 13.79
13 Czech 13.81
14 Sardinian 14.27
15 Jew_Moroccan 14.55
16 Ukrainian 15.05
17 Scottish 15.05
18 Basque 15.44
19 Norwegian 15.74
20 Jew_Libyan 15.99

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.4% Europe_EN + 17.6% MA1 @ 0.69
2 82.4% Europe_EN + 17.6% AG2 @ 0.69
3 82.4% Europe_EN + 17.6% AG3 @ 0.69
4 55.3% Italian_South + 44.7% French @ 1.04
5 90.1% Italian_South + 9.9% Hungarian_KO1 @ 1.05
6 90.1% Italian_South + 9.9% WHG @ 1.05
7 80.4% Albanian + 19.6% French @ 1.23
8 77.1% Greek + 22.9% Basque @ 1.29
9 96.8% Albanian + 3.2% Hungarian_KO1 @ 1.29
10 96.8% Albanian + 3.2% WHG @ 1.29
11 59.6% Anatolia_N + 40.4% Steppe_EMBA @ 1.32
12 85.6% Albanian + 14.4% Basque @ 1.36
13 84.2% Albanian + 15.8% English @ 1.39
14 96.4% Albanian + 3.6% Motala12 @ 1.41
15 64.4% Basque + 35.6% Georgian @ 1.43
16 96.4% Albanian + 3.6% SHG @ 1.45
17 87.4% Albanian + 12.6% Icelandic @ 1.46
18 64.7% Basque + 35.3% Assyrian @ 1.47
19 76.4% Albanian + 23.6% Croatian @ 1.49
20 84.5% Albanian +
 
Bulgarian/Vlach ancestry:

Ancestral_North_Eurasian
20.12

Ancestral_South_Eurasian1.38

East_Asian0.51

West_European_Hunter_Gartherer35.81

Natufian42.17

Sub_Saharan-

1
Bulgarian1.65
2Romanian2.84
3Albanian5.52
4Croatian6.28
5Greek6.42
6Spanish9.23
7Hungarian9.29
8Sicilian9.73
9French9.77
10Italian_South11.03
11Czech11.62
12English11.85
13Jew_Ashkenazi11.88
14Ukrainian12.37
15Scottish12.79
16Norwegian13.24
17Icelandic15.37
18Basque15.82
19Europe_LNBA16.12
20Armenia_ChL16.24
 
Hungarian results from Transylvania:

#
PopulationPercent
1West_European_Hunter_Gartherer41
2Natufian37.35
3Ancestral_North_Eurasian14.54
4East_Asian5.8
5Sub_Saharan0.67
6Ancestral_South_Eurasian0.64


#
PopulationPercent
1Natufian37.96
2West_European_Hunter_Gartherer37.83
3Ancestral_North_Eurasian18.26
4East_Asian4.75
5Ancestral_South_Eurasian1.2

#
PopulationPercent
1Natufian38.71
2West_European_Hunter_Gartherer36.1
3Ancestral_North_Eurasian19.77
4East_Asian3.98
5Ancestral_South_Eurasian1.45

Other results including relative matches of different ethnic groups:

Romanian:

#
PopulationPercent
1Natufian37.31
2West_European_Hunter_Gartherer37.02
3Ancestral_North_Eurasian19.76
4East_Asian3.7
5Sub_Saharan1.35
6Ancestral_South_Eurasian0.86

Serbian:

#
PopulationPercent
1Natufian41.32
2West_European_Hunter_Gartherer38.44
3Ancestral_North_Eurasian18.41
4East_Asian1.83

Italian from Sicily:

#
PopulationPercent
1Natufian50.86
2West_European_Hunter_Gartherer25.32
3Ancestral_North_Eurasian18.54
4Sub_Saharan4.54
5Ancestral_South_Eurasian0.75

Sephardic Jewish:

#
PopulationPercent
1Natufian51.1
2West_European_Hunter_Gartherer25.46
3Ancestral_North_Eurasian17.87
4Sub_Saharan5.57

Lebanese:

#
PopulationPercent
1Natufian54.65
2Ancestral_North_Eurasian22.55
3West_European_Hunter_Gartherer18.08
4Sub_Saharan3.1
5Ancestral_South_Eurasian1.28
6East_Asian0.34
 
#
PopulationPercent
1West_European_Hunter_Gartherer43.14
2Natufian36.12
3Ancestral_North_Eurasian17.91
4East_Asian2.83
 
#PopulationPercent
1Natufian49.45
2West_European_Hunter_Gartherer28.4
3Ancestral_North_Eurasian19.5
4Sub_Saharan2.26

#Population (source)Distance
1Sicilian1.61
2Italian_South1.82
3Jew_Ashkenazi2.3
4Greek4.54
5Jew_Moroccan5.86
6Albanian6.08
7Jew_Libyan7.73
8Jew_Tunisian8.33
9Armenia_ChL10.17
10Bulgarian10.77


[FONT=&quot]Using 4 populations approximation:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1 English + Italian_South + Italian_South + Jew_Yemenite @ 0.796184[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2 French + Italian_South + Italian_South + Jew_Yemenite @ 0.797695[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 Greek + Italian_South + Jew_Moroccan + Sicilian @ 0.822987[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4 Cypriot + English + Jew_Moroccan + Jew_Moroccan @ 0.840128[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]5 Czech + Italian_South + Italian_South + Jew_Yemenite @ 0.874920[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]6 Albanian + Italian_South + Italian_South + Jew_Moroccan @ 0.924199[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]7 Croatian + Cypriot + Italian_South + Jew_Moroccan @ 0.927489[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]8 Greek + Italian_South + Italian_South + Jew_Moroccan @ 0.929303[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]9 Croatian + Cypriot + Italian_South + Jew_Libyan @ 0.935862[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]10 Cypriot + French + Italian_South + Jew_Tunisian @ 0.945438[/FONT]
 
#PopulationPercent
1Natufian54.27
2Ancestral_North_Eurasian23.32
3West_European_Hunter_Gartherer11.43
4Sub_Saharan7.47
5Ancestral_South_Eurasian3.31
6East_Asian0.2

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Palestinian3.58
2Jordanian4.05
3Lebanese4.09
4Syrian4.14
5Saudi5.79
6BedouinA6.04
7Jew_Yemenite6.43
8Druze6.56
9Jew_iraqi8.49
10Jew_Iranian8.97
11Assyrian9.6
12Cypriot10.73
13Levant_BA11.91
14Jew_Tunisian12.02
15Georgian12.4
16Egyptian12.5
17Jew_Libyan13.32
18Jew_Moroccan13.69
19Iranian13.69
20Turkish13.86

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
1 58.4%Jew_Iranian+41.6%Egyptian@1.44
2 60.3%BedouinA+39.7%Jew_Iranian@1.68
3 65.9%Jew_Iranian+34.1%Libyan@1.69
4 84.4%Palestinian+15.6%Iran_LN@1.83
5 59.9%Jew_iraqi+40.1%Egyptian@1.87
6 59.1%BedouinA+40.9%Jew_iraqi@1.93
7 67.3%Jew_iraqi+32.7%Libyan@1.99
8 91.3%Palestinian+8.7%CHG@2.01
9 90.3%Palestinian+9.7%Makrani@2.02
10 86.7%Palestinian+13.3%Iranian_Lori@2.02
11 91%Palestinian+9%Brahui@2.04
12 77.4%Jew_Iranian+22.6%Saharawi@2.06
13 89.8%Palestinian+10.2%Baloch_Iranian@2.06
14 91.3%Palestinian+8.7%Balochi@2.09
15 84.3%Palestinian+15.7%Iranian_Shirazi@2.11
16 62.3%BedouinA+37.7%Assyrian@2.12
17 85.4%Palestinian+14.6%Iranian_Mazandarani@2.14
18 83%Palestinian+17%Kurd_C@2.15
19 78.4%Jew_iraqi+21.6%Saharawi@2.16
20 84.1%Palestinian+15.9%Kurd_F@2.16
 
[h=2]Ancient Eurasia K6 Oracle results:[/h]gedrosia K6 Oracle


Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1Natufian46.32
2West_European_Hunter_Gartherer36.39
3Ancestral_North_Eurasian17.29

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Albanian3.28
2Bulgarian4.85
3Greek5.21
4Romanian5.48
5Sicilian7.91
6Spanish8.32
7Croatian8.8
8Italian_South8.99
9Jew_Ashkenazi10.06
10French11.2
11Hungarian11.98
12Sardinian13.14
13English14.19
14Czech14.29
15Jew_Moroccan14.56
16Basque15.1
17Scottish15.51
18Ukrainian15.65
19Jew_Libyan15.89
20Norwegian16.29

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
1 83.4%Europe_EN+16.6%AG2@0.45
2 83.4%Europe_EN+16.6%AG3@0.45
3 83.4%Europe_EN+16.6%MA1@0.45
4 62.8%Italian_South+37.2%Basque@1.29
5 83.6%Albanian+16.4%Basque@1.46
6 61.7%Anatolia_N+38.3%Steppe_EMBA@1.46
7 90%Italian_South+10%Hungarian_KO1@1.57
8 90%Italian_South+10%WHG@1.57
9 88.7%Croatian+11.3%Levant_N@1.57
10 88.7%Croatian+11.3%Natufian@1.57
11 75.2%Greek+24.8%Basque@1.63
12 80.8%Norwegian+19.2%Levant_N@1.7
13 80.8%Norwegian+19.2%Natufian@1.7
14 66.1%Basque+33.9%Jew_iraqi@1.72
15 65.6%Basque+34.4%Assyrian@1.8
16 74.8%Albanian+25.2%Spanish@1.82
17 66%Basque+34%Jew_Iranian@1.86
18 52%Spanish+48%Italian_South@1.88
19 96.8%Albanian+3.2%Hungarian_KO1@1.95
20 96.8%Albanian+3.2%WHG@1.95

 
I wish there was a calculator or reference for levels of Basal Eurasian in modern populations.

Going by this calculator, if we take half the ancestry of Natufians as Basal Eurasian, then Europeans have from 15-20% BEu, and Near Easterners 25-30%, is that accurate ?
 
And what about Ancient North Eurasian ? Near Easterners have high levels of ANE according to this calculator (mine is 23%), unlike what is reported in this map:

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1 Natufian 42.08
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 40.24
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 13.16
4 Sub_Saharan 3.94
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.58

1 Spanish 3.04
2 Romanian 7.25
3 Croatian 7.3
4 French 7.53
5 Bulgarian 8.01
6 Hungarian 9.02
7 Basque 9.66
8 Albanian 10.19
9 English 10.53
10 Czech 10.98
11 Sardinian 11.61
12 Scottish 11.81
13 Greek 12.09
14 Ukrainian 12.49
15 Norwegian 13
16 Sicilian 14.03
17 Icelandic 14.12
18 Europe_LNBA 15.33
19 Jew_Ashkenazi 15.78
20 Italian_South 15.95
 
1 Natufian 42.08
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 40.24
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 13.16
4 Sub_Saharan 3.94
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.58

1 Spanish 3.04
2 Romanian 7.25
3 Croatian 7.3
4 French 7.53
5 Bulgarian 8.01
6 Hungarian 9.02
7 Basque 9.66
8 Albanian 10.19
9 English 10.53
10 Czech 10.98
11 Sardinian 11.61
12 Scottish 11.81
13 Greek 12.09
14 Ukrainian 12.49
15 Norwegian 13
16 Sicilian 14.03
17 Icelandic 14.12
18 Europe_LNBA 15.33
19 Jew_Ashkenazi 15.78
20 Italian_South 15.95

I don't think levels of Sub-Saharan are accurate for this calculator, according to it, Levant BA has 4% SSA admixture, which we know it didn't have, maybe the reference for this component include East Africans who have Levantine ancestry.

For me it seems reasonable, 8% is close enough to the 6% East African reported on other calculators.
 
Hmm this calculator is really odd it's like it's 1/2 right 1/2 wrong
 
I don't think levels of Sub-Saharan are accurate for this calculator, according to it, Levant BA has 4% SSA admixture, which we know it didn't have, maybe the reference for this component include East Africans who have Levantine ancestry.

For me it seems reasonable, 8% is close enough to the 6% East African reported on other calculators.

Yeah it does not feel like it and I'm from north Spain which does not make much sense. Also the Single Population Sharing is not correct expect the Spanish one.
 
Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian15.64
Ancestral_South_Eurasian-
East_Asian0.42
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer40.07
Natufian43.87
Sub_Saharan-

1 83.5% Icelandic + 16.5% Levant_N @ 0.22
2 83.5% Icelandic + 16.5% Natufian @ 0.22
7 87.4% Sardinian + 12.6% EHG @ 0.88
10 79.7% Lithuanian + 20.3% Natufian @ 0.98
11 79.7% Lithuanian + 20.3% Levant_N @ 0.98
16 64.2% Europe_EN + 35.8% Steppe_EMBA @ 1.2
19 82.2% Europe_LNBA + 17.8% Levant_N @ 1.23
20 82.2% Europe_LNBA + 17.8% Natufian @ 1.23

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Basque +50% Greek @ 1.000425

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Basque +25% Cypriot +25% French @ 0.931661

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Anatolia_N + Greek + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 0.676271
 
Hmm this calculator is really odd it's like it's 1/2 right 1/2 wrong

It's ready for the trash bin, imho, like a lot of them.
 
1 83.5% Icelandic + 16.5% Levant_N @ 0.22
2 83.5% Icelandic + 16.5% Natufian @ 0.22
7 87.4% Sardinian + 12.6% EHG @ 0.88
10 79.7% Lithuanian + 20.3% Natufian @ 0.98
11 79.7% Lithuanian + 20.3% Levant_N @ 0.98
16 64.2% Europe_EN + 35.8% Steppe_EMBA @ 1.2
19 82.2% Europe_LNBA + 17.8% Levant_N @ 1.23
20 82.2% Europe_LNBA + 17.8% Natufian @ 1.23
OOOOH I see a hidden "what comes next in the series" puzzle! I love these kinds of questions!! The answer is 25 because the series follows a plus one plus 5 plus 3 pattern between each quadruplet of numbers and each number that is the previous number plus five is in italics.

1 + 1=2
2 + 5=7
7 + 3=10
10 + 1=11
11 + 5=16
16 + 3=19
19 + 1=20
20 + 5=25
 

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