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Tajiks are Iranian speaking people, they were close to Persians / Farsi folks. But they are heavily mixed with Slavic (Russian) and Turkic tribes. You can compare them to the ancient Steppe Scythians. Like the ancient 'Iraninized' Scythians of the Steppes. Scythians in the Steppes (mixture between Slavic and Turkic tribes) were 'Iranized' by East Iranian people from South East Asia (BMAC / Hindi Kush area).I noticed that Pamiri Tajiks have on average over 40% of Hindu Kush.
They also score a lot of Steppe (Yamnaya) and European Mesolithic (WHG-UHG), as well as Early Neolithic Farmer (Near Eastern).
Amazingly, they only score few % of East Asian, despite living near the border of China:
Weekdays | Saturday | Sunday | Monday | Tuesday | Wednesday | Thursday | Friday |
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Rojî Hefte | Şeme | Yekşeme | Duşeme | Sêşeme | Çarşeme | Pêncşeme | Heyinî |
Roja Heftan | Şemî | Yekşem | Duşem | Sêşem | Çarşem | Pêncşem | Înî |
Abbreviations | Şe | Ye | Du | Sê | Ça | Pê | În |
Admixture: | Zoran: | Goga: |
Near Eastern | 44,37 | 44,35 |
Hindu Kush | 34,81 | 35,31 |
Steppe | 12,48 | 13,35 |
WHG-UHG | 5,22 | 2,94 |
East Asian | 2,17 | 0,36 |
Sub Saharan | 0,47 | 0,25 |
Oceanian | 0,42 | 0,17 |
Southeast Asian | 0,05 | 0,92 |
Siberian | - | 1,23 |
Amerindian | - | 1,11 |
Goga said:This calculator is nonsense.
Admixture: | Zoran: | Arya: | Goga: | Iran 1400s: |
Caucasian | 40,79 | 40,88 | ? | 45,47 |
Baloch | 27,95 | 29,33 | ? | 26,89 |
SW-Asian | 13,29 | 14,96 | ? | 13,13 |
NE-Euro | 4,30 | 4,75 | ? | 7,27 |
Mediterranean | 8,05 | 4,17 | ? | 4,87 |
S-Indian | 2,99 | 3,71 | ? | 1,23 |
Siberian | 0,96 | 0,22 | ? | 0,65 |
W-African | - | - | ? | 0,20 |
SE-Asian | - | 0,27 | ? | 0,18 |
Beringian | - | 0,26 | ? | 0,12 |
NE-Asian | - | 0,39 | ? | - |
Papuan | 0,28 | 0,92 | ? | - |
American | 0,67 | - | ? | - |
San | 0,63 | - | ? | - |
E-African | 0,07 | 0,14 | ? | - |
Pygmy | - | - | ? | - |
Thanks, but who is this Zoran person? Is (s)he Kurdish? Zoran's auDNA is very similar to me.For comparing overall ancestry, I think that HarappaWorld is better for Iranians.
A comparison of your, Iran_recent's and some Iranian results in HarappaWorld:
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Can you post your HarappaWorld results? I will edit this post and add them too.
Admixture: | Zoran: | Arya: | Goga: | Iran 1400s: |
Caucasian | 40,79 | 40,88 | 40.84 | 45,47 |
Baloch | 27,95 | 29,33 | 27.86 | 26,89 |
SW-Asian | 13,29 | 14,96 | 13.9 | 13,13 |
NE-Euro | 4,30 | 4,75 | 3.92 | 7,27 |
Mediterranean | 8,05 | 4,17 | 8.27 | 4,87 |
S-Indian | 2,99 | 3,71 | 2.23 | 1,23 |
Siberian | 0,96 | 0,22 | 1.08 | 0,65 |
W-African | - | - | - | 0,20 |
SE-Asian | - | 0,27 | 0.57 | 0,18 |
Beringian | - | 0,26 | - | 0,12 |
NE-Asian | - | 0,39 | - | - |
Papuan | 0,28 | 0,92 | 0.36 | - |
American | 0,67 | - | 0.98 | - |
San | 0,63 | - | - | - |
E-African | 0,07 | 0,14 | - | - |
Pygmy | - | - | - | - |
Thanks, but who is this Zoran person? Is (s)he Kurdish? Zoran's auDNA is very similar to me.
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Kurds are descendants of the Medes.
Also Armenians are close.Ethnically speaking, the closest people to Kurds are Persians, then Caucasians (Georgians, Maykop folks/Adygeans).
Close, but not that close. Armenians are quite different. Armenians are more shifted toward the Levant, Med. Sea. Armenians match better with (and closer to) Druze and Cypriots, than with Kurds, Iranians and Adygeians.Also Armenians are close.
I compared my results with RISE150 - who lived in what is now Poland, but ~3900 years ago:
I used calculator puntDNAL K15 for this comparison:
1) My result:
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Polish 2.06
2 Swedish 4.03
3 Norwegian 6.35
4 North_German 6.79
5 Belarusian 7.58
6 Slovenian 7.94
2) RISE 150:
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Swedish 5.58
2 North_German 5.95
3 Polish 6.07
4 Slovenian 6.29
5 Norwegian 6.58
6 Hungarian 7.41
She has the same populations as top results in "population sharing" - only in different order.
This cannot be coincidence. RISE150 was a sample of Unetice culture:
http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/copperbronzeagedna.shtml
RISE150 is available on GEDmatch (kit number F999948):
http://www.y-str.org/p/ancient-dna.html
1 | Polish | 1.79 |
2 | Swedish | 4.49 |
3 | Belarusian | 6.58 |
4 | Norwegian | 6.72 |
5 | North_German | 7.69 |
6 | Russian | 8.03 |
Sorry! Wrong link.
SteppeK10: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-XBmvmgdkfVM2RRRHlRSkcwV0k/view
I used R software for Windows. See the "readme": https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7AJcY18g2GaZGU4OWQ5OWItMzY2NC00NzI1LWIzNWMtMzUxYWI4NjRmMTlk/view
A summary based on the readme file:
1 - Download, install and run R software.
2 - "Once R is running, it will give you a command prompt where you can enter commands. First, you must change the directory to your working directory.
You can do this from the File -> Change dir menu in Windows"
3 - At the R prompt, enter:
source('standardize.r')
"This loads a small program that will convert your data from the
company-specific format to a common format in the next step."
4 - At the R prompt, enter:
a. If you have 23andMe data (either v2 or v3 chip):
standardize('yourgenome.txt', company='23andMe')
b. if you have Family Finder data (Illumina chip only):
standardize('yourgenome.csv', company='ftdna')
5 - At the R prompt, enter:
system('DIYDodecadWin steppe.par')
It is not going well for me either, I've downloaded all but can't quickly figure out all the necessary steps. Foreign concept for me to run programs in a program and have with weird names to the right folders. I don't want to spend hours with this to experiment endlessly what works. I need baby steps manual, if someone cares to right them down.Im afraid my IPad can't download using the R software. Do you knowing there is a way for my IPad to download Steepes10?
What is very interesting is the fact that Rise 150 is almost at equal distance to modern populations of Germanics and Slavs of the Area. All from 5.58 to 6.58, that's a very small margin to fit all in. This must be true Corded Ware heritage for both groups.I compared my results with RISE150 - who lived in what is now Poland, but ~3900 years ago:
2) RISE 150:
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Swedish 5.58
2 North_German 5.95
3 Polish 6.07
4 Slovenian 6.29
5 Norwegian 6.58
6 Hungarian 7.41
Because the other populations are even closer to him than you. For example French can have: Total of segments > 1 cM = 1,600 cM and 1002 matching segmentsNow I tried 1-to-1 comparison:
Comparing Kit T269964 (*Tomenable) and F999948 (RISE150,Poland,3.4ky):
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 25 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Largest segment = 4.7 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 1,142.2 cM
701 matching segments
307164 SNPs used for this comparison.
Comparison took 0.03335 seconds.
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Comparing Kit T269964 (*Tomenable) and F999933 (BR2, Hungary, 3.2ky):
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 25 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Largest segment = 6.8 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 1,488.4 cM
921 matching segments
657082 SNPs used for this comparison.
Comparison took 0.04641 seconds.
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I have 701 matching segments with RISE150 and a bit more (921) with Hungarian BR2.
However, Hungarian BR2 is not similar to me and to RISE150 in "Single Population Sharing".
In puntDNAL K15:
3) BR2 (Kyjatice culture):
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Utahn_White 4.41
2 South_German 4.52
3 French 5.02
4 English 6
5 Orcadian 6.91
6 Scottish 7.3
7 Irish 7.61
BR2 has totally different populations (no Poles, no Swedes, no Slovenians, no Norwegians, etc.).
I'm not sure how to interpret this (why more of matching segments, if less matching populations?).
That's a bit weird perhaps, but keep in mind that matches will be fewer if we are not dealing with the whole genome. Many ancient genomes are only partial.I carried out also a 1-to-1 comparison with Hinxton-4 (Iron Age Briton) - just to make sure that I'm not as closely related to Ancient Britons as to RISE150 (which would imply that there is nothing special about this similarity with RISE150):
Comparing Kit T269964 (*Tomenable) and F999925 (Hinxton-4, UK, 2ky):
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 25 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Largest segment = 2.7 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 162.9 cM
125 matching segments
575225 SNPs used for this comparison.
Comparison took 0.02972 seconds.
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Only 125 segments, much fewer than with RISE150 and BR2.
It is not going well for me either, I've downloaded all but can't quickly figure out all the necessary steps. Foreign concept for me to run programs in a program and have with weird names to the right folders. I don't want to spend hours with this to experiment endlessly what works. I need baby steps manual, if someone cares to right them down.
It is not going well for me either, I've downloaded all but can't quickly figure out all the necessary steps. Foreign concept for me to run programs in a program and have with weird names to the right folders. I don't want to spend hours with this to experiment endlessly what works. I need baby steps manual, if someone cares to right them down.
LOL same here man. I can't figure this out unless I am willing to spend hours to study it.
As I said before, perhaps it depends how much ancient DNA was recovered? Most of them are partial.I share 701 matching segments with RISE150 and 921 with BR2.
Numbers such as 701 - 921 matching segments seem to be a lot.
I made a similar comparison with ancient and modern Iranians:
Kit T637158 (Medieval Iranian) shares 758 segments with a modern Iranian.
Kit M124870 (Copper Age Iranian) shares 597 segments with a modern Iranian.
Finally, T637158 and M124870 share 380 matching segments with each other.
Criteria of comparison were the same in each case:
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