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Hello ! here my result with HarappaWorld and Oracle.


Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1french (hgdp)7.11
2hungarian (behar)11.04
3slovenian (xing)13.19
4utahn-white (1000genomes)13.34
5romanian-a (behar)13.61
6italian (hgdp)13.62
7n-european (xing)14.06
8utahn-white (hapmap)14.75
9spaniard (behar)14.77
10british (1000genomes)14.85
11bulgarian (yunusbayev)15.72
12spaniard (1000genomes)16.12
13orcadian (hgdp)17.64
14tuscan (hapmap)19.41
15tuscan (hgdp)19.77
16tuscan (1000genomes)20.26
17ukranian (yunusbayev)21.86
18spain-basc (henn2012)27.05
19belorussian (behar)27.24
20mordovian (yunusbayev)27.81

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
1 88.5% french (hgdp) + 11.5% adygei (hgdp) @ 2.15
2 90.7% french (hgdp) + 9.3% georgian (behar) @ 2.21
3 90.4% french (hgdp) + 9.6% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 2.22
4 88.3% french (hgdp) + 11.7% balkar (yunusbayev) @ 2.24
5 69.8% french (hgdp) + 30.2% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 2.29
6 88.7% french (hgdp) + 11.3% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 2.29
7 57% utahn-white (hapmap) + 43% tuscan (hapmap) @ 2.4
8 66.7% french (hgdp) + 33.3% romanian-a (behar) @ 2.4
9 59.5% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 40.5% tuscan (hapmap) @ 2.44
10 87.9% french (hgdp) + 12.1% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 2.47
11 60.5% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 39.5% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 2.51
12 57.9% british (1000genomes) + 42.1% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 2.82
13 58.2% n-european (xing) + 41.8% tuscan (hapmap) @ 2.84
14 87.8% french (hgdp) + 12.2% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 2.9
15 53.5% orcadian (hgdp) + 46.5% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 3.02
16 88.2% french (hgdp) + 11.8% lezgin (behar) @ 3.12
17 59.4% n-european (xing) + 40.6% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 3.21
18 86.7% french (hgdp) + 13.3% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.22
19 87.7% french (hgdp) + 12.3% urkarah (xing) @ 3.23
20 89.6% french (hgdp) + 10.4% armenian (behar) @ 3.24
1NE-Euro40.59
2Mediterranean32.41
3Caucasian15.99
4Baloch8.64
5SW-Asian1.28
6Papuan0.89
7E-African0.2

So what exactly does it say ? I played a little with GEDmatch calculator like Eurogenes. Being new into the pleasure of dna ancestry result, i'm like a little kid who wants to understand what he does.
 
What's your enthicity halfalp? I guess you're half swiss (going by your username and location)?
 
What's your enthicity halfalp? I guess you're half swiss (going by your username and location)?
His numbers are very close to Swiss-French mix from database on page one.
 
His numbers are very close to Swiss-French mix from database on page one.

I’m betting French-Canadian with some English and/or some other maybe East or South German and Slavic background.
 
Well, from the previous analyses, French speaking Swiss seem French like, Italian speaking Swiss are Italian like, and I presume, therefore, that German speaking Swiss are German like.

Switzerland is not genetically homogeneous.
 
I'm swiss but my grand-mother from maternal side is from Dresden germany, but the paternal side of my german born maternal grand-mother is from Berne switzerland. I do not have any French proper ancestry to my knowledge.
 
Well, from the previous analyses, French speaking Swiss seem French like, Italian speaking Swiss are Italian like, and I presume, therefore, that German speaking Swiss are German like.

Switzerland is not genetically homogeneous.
But in Eurogenes test my highest component is Italian following by Iberian and North-Atlantic, and according to 23andme i have a 100% italian ancestor between the last 200 years but also a 100% balkans ancestor.
 
I’m betting French-Canadian with some English and/or some other maybe East or South German and Slavic background.

My mom is French Canadian and only has a distance of 2 with French HGDP.
 
But in Eurogenes test my highest component is Italian following by Iberian and North-Atlantic, and according to 23andme i have a 100% italian ancestor between the last 200 years but also a 100% balkans ancestor.

There are many Swiss (Swiss French or Swiss Germans) who have high Italian component on Eurogenes K36 without having any Italian ancestor.

Italian on K36 doesn't imply necessarily Italian ancestry.
 
But in Eurogenes test my highest component is Italian following by Iberian and North-Atlantic, and according to 23andme i have a 100% italian ancestor between the last 200 years but also a 100% balkans ancestor.

Sorry, halfalp, I just saw this response to me.

Are you from the French speaking part of Switzerland? If yes, then your results correlate with that, in that you are closest to French people, although the fit is very bad because you're not actually French.

You have to understand what these tests are telling you. Harappa World is not telling you that you have actual French ancestors in your genealogy within even hundreds of years. They're saying your genome is closest to the genome of French people who are, after all, neighbors of the French (which makes perfect sense and was to be expected), although you obviously have other ancestry, which is why the fit is so bad.

For another thing, that particular Eurogenes calculator is ridiculous.

You also can't interpret 23andme in the way you're doing. Ignore the timeline. It just confuses everyone. 23andme is picking up ancient admixture, not recent.
 
Sorry, halfalp, I just saw this response to me.

Are you from the French speaking part of Switzerland? If yes, then your results correlate with that, in that you are closest to French people, although the fit is very bad because you're not actually French.

You have to understand what these tests are telling you. Harappa World is not telling you that you have actual French ancestors in your genealogy within even hundreds of years. They're saying your genome is closest to the genome of French people who are, after all, neighbors of the French (which makes perfect sense and was to be expected), although you obviously have other ancestry, which is why the fit is so bad.

For another thing, that particular Eurogenes calculator is ridiculous.

You also can't interpret 23andme in the way you're doing. Ignore the timeline. It just confuses everyone. 23andme is picking up ancient admixture, not recent.
Thanks for the response. Yes i understand that the French-German thing is about a genetic transition between modern north-eastern french and south germans, somthing like that. My father is from the french part and my mother from the german part, with my maternal grand mother coming from eastern germany. For the Eurogenes calculators, yes it's pretty confusing. Whats actually confusing me with the 100% Italian and Balkan ancestor from the 23andme test is that, me, my father and my mother, we look extremelly balkans-like, dinaric or albanese, if i tell to anybody that i've made a genetic test and i'm mostly from the alpine celtic parts, nobody believes me, wich was one of the reason i made a test and it's fascinating, i like to think that i look something coming from an ancestral migration.
 
There are many Swiss (Swiss French or Swiss Germans) who have high Italian component on Eurogenes K36 without having any Italian ancestor.

Italian on K36 doesn't imply necessarily Italian ancestry.
So i know haplogroups and component dont are necessarily related above all in a modern context, but being R1b-S28 wich the high spot is in Northern Italy, isn't that could show an ancestral relationship ? Maybe an Italo-Celtic one. Switzerland is a pretty enclosed land.
 
Thanks for the response. Yes i understand that the French-German thing is about a genetic transition between modern north-eastern french and south germans, somthing like that. My father is from the french part and my mother from the german part, with my maternal grand mother coming from eastern germany. For the Eurogenes calculators, yes it's pretty confusing. Whats actually confusing me with the 100% Italian and Balkan ancestor from the 23andme test is that, me, my father and my mother, we look extremelly balkans-like, dinaric or albanese, if i tell to anybody that i've made a genetic test and i'm mostly from the alpine celtic parts, nobody believes me, wich was one of the reason i made a test and it's fascinating, i like to think that i look something coming from an ancestral migration.

There's a lot of shared ancestry between the Swiss and the Northern Italians, half alp. You can see that, as you say, in the yhaplogroup. There's "Celtic" in Switzerland, and Celtic migrations into Northern Italy starting in the first millennium BC. There was a German migration down into Switzerland and also into Italy with the Goths and the Lombards. Flowing from the other direction, there is lots of Neolithic farmer ancestry. It's just the proportions that are different, although the Italian Swiss are not all that different from the French Swiss.

As for appearance, you can never tell what's going to come out. My first cousin married a Swiss German from Liestal. Although his features weren't particularly Italian, he had black hair, dark brown eyes and the most beautiful long, sable like, eyelashes. Meanwhile, my father's family are all red or fair haired with light eyes. It's all just a roll of the genetic dice.
 
There's a lot of shared ancestry between the Swiss and the Northern Italians, half alp. You can see that, as you say, in the yhaplogroup. There's "Celtic" in Switzerland, and Celtic migrations into Northern Italy starting in the first millennium BC. There was a German migration down into Switzerland and also into Italy with the Goths and the Lombards. Flowing from the other direction, there is lots of Neolithic farmer ancestry. It's just the proportions that are different, although the Italian Swiss are not all that different from the French Swiss.As for appearance, you can never tell what's going to come out. My first cousin married a Swiss German from Liestal. Although his features weren't particularly Italian, he had black hair, dark brown eyes and the most beautiful long, sable like, eyelashes. Meanwhile, my father's family are all red or fair haired with light eyes. It's all just a roll of the genetic dice.
I got those eyelashes too ! What's funny is that, people confusing me with an albanian but when i ask to an albanian if i look albanian, they tell me that i look more italian because of my dark features ( black hair, brown eyes ).
 
I got those eyelashes too ! What's funny is that, people confusing me with an albanian but when i ask to an albanian if i look albanian, they tell me that i look more italian because of my dark features ( black hair, brown eyes ).
Italians don’t look all the same:
View of Italy - Italian Men:

French vs Italian Women:
https://youtu.be/fP6Q3q9pPqw
 
Harapa World results:

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 32.24
2 Caucasian 26.67
3 Mediterranean 24.03
4 SW-Asian 9.42
5 Baloch 6.22
6 American 0.71
7 SE-Asian 0.45
8 E-African 0.11
9 Siberian 0.1
10 Papuan 0.04
 
some Arabian results I got from Gedmatch:

-a guy from the tribe of Otaibah, historically a large nomadic tribe in central and western Arabia, I expect most Otaibians to be like him:

1 SW-Asian 61.69
2 Caucasian 24.98
3 Mediterranean 4.86
4 E-African 2.81
5 Baloch 2.58
6 Beringian 1.21
7 Pygmy 0.66
8 San 0.45
9 S-Indian 0.44
10 NE-Asian 0.22
11 NE-Euro 0.09

- a Zahrani individual, historically an agriculturist tribe inhabiting southwestern Arabia, in the mountains of Sarawat, which are the southern portion of the Hejaz, they're historically from Yemen:

1 SW-Asian 43.76
2 Caucasian 30.15
3 Mediterranean 9.34
4 Baloch 6.34
5 E-African 6.27
6 S-Indian 1.62
7 NE-Euro 0.79
8 Papuan 0.77
9 NE-Asian 0.57
10 Siberian 0.3
11 Beringian 0.08
12 American 0.01

-Ghamid tribe, closely related to Zahran:

1 SW-Asian 42.42
2 Caucasian 31.11
3 Mediterranean 9.35
4 Baloch 6.43
5 E-African 6.38
6 S-Indian 2.8
7 SE-Asian 0.75
8 NE-Euro 0.48
9 American 0.15
10 W-African 0.12


- Enezi tribe, one of the largest tribes in Arabia, mostly in the North, there are many clans in Syria and Iraq also:

1 SW-Asian 50.85
2 Caucasian 28.03
3 Mediterranean 8.15
4 Baloch 5.26
5 E-African 4.32
6 S-Indian 1.78
7 NE-Euro 0.44
8 San 0.38
9 W-African 0.34
10 Beringian 0.33
11 Pygmy 0.07
12 American 0.06

-Mutairi tribe, in central, western, and eastern Arabia, nomads historically, they're theorized to be closely related to Otaibah, earliest poetry mentions them together, no wonder they share the same deep clade of J1:

1 SW-Asian 60.43
2 Caucasian 27.22
3 Mediterranean 5.51
4 E-African 5.07
5 San 0.64
6 S-Indian 0.44
7 Baloch 0.23
8 American 0.2
9 Beringian 0.17
10 Papuan 0.08

-tribe of Harb, migrated from Yemen after the rise of Islam, settled in Western Arabia in the Hejaz, but there also large contingents in central and northern Araba, their results vary and I couldn't find a "profile" so I'll post all three that I could find:

1 SW-Asian 52.47
2 Caucasian 28.18
3 Mediterranean 8.71
4 E-African 4.74
5 Baloch 4.38
6 Papuan 0.96
7 S-Indian 0.3
8 SE-Asian 0.17
9 Pygmy 0.11


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1 SW-Asian 56.28
2 Caucasian 27.97
3 Mediterranean 6.98
4 E-African 5.04
5 Baloch 2.59
6 NE-Asian 0.53
7 San 0.52
8 Pygmy 0.06
9 Papuan 0.02


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1 SW-Asian 55.23
2 Caucasian 25
3 E-African 9.68
4 Mediterranean 7.78
5 Baloch 1.5
6 Beringian 0.33
7 W-African 0.2
8 Pygmy 0.2
9 S-Indian 0.08


-an individual from Garn(or Qarn), a southern tribe, historically an agriculturist tribe, in Arab genealogy books, they share a lineage with Ghamid and Zahran and the same story of migration from Yemen:

1 SW-Asian 47.6
2 Caucasian 31.25
3 Mediterranean 9.62
4 Baloch 4.82
5 E-African 4.73
6 Papuan 1.01
7 SE-Asian 0.82
8 NE-Asian 0.11
9 San 0.03

-Tamim tribe, historically from the central Nejd plateau, a complex history of nomadism and urbanism, in the early Islamic era they were one of the largest tribes that participated in the Islamic conquests, and may have caused them to spread too thin and reduced their numbers in Arabia, still many people in Eastern Gulf cities and families in Nejd who claim ancestry from them:

1 SW-Asian 49.7
2 Caucasian 27.76
3 Baloch 7.75
4 Mediterranean 6.51
5 E-African 3.39
6 S-Indian 3.03
7 SE-Asian 0.57
8 American 0.54
9 NE-Euro 0.52
10 Papuan 0.22

-Azmi tribe, in Eastern Arabia but migrated from the west, one of the most important tribes in Kuwait, their individuals hold the highest number of seats in the Kuawiti parlament:

1 SW-Asian 65.09
2 Caucasian 26.02
3 Mediterranean 5.25
4 S-Indian 1.86
5 E-African 0.79
6 NE-Euro 0.59
7 San 0.18
8 SE-Asian 0.11
9 NE-Asian 0.11

-Asir tribe, who inhabit the province of Asir in southern Saudi Arabia, strangely their Y-dna shares an ancestry with the Enezi tribe, leading some to suggest a common origin, interestingly Asir appears as an obscure name in the same genealogical clade linking them known as "Rabiah", so they either migrated from the north or the Enezah migrated from the south:

1 SW-Asian 53.45
2 Caucasian 31.12
3 Mediterranean 9
4 Baloch 2.51
5 E-African 2.45
6 Papuan 0.63
7 American 0.52
8 S-Indian 0.32

-Harthi tribe, in classical Arab genealogy books, Haritha is a large tribe that inhabited Najran in the south, but they're mostly found today in western Arabia around the city of Taif, so they either migrated from there or are different tribes:

1 SW-Asian 51.06
2 Caucasian 28.17
3 Mediterranean 7.14
4 E-African 6.47
5 Baloch 3.79
6 San 0.83
7 W-African 0.6
8 SE-Asian 0.59
9 Siberian 0.58
10 S-Indian 0.56
11 American 0.21





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these are not all the tribes in Arabia of course, but what I could find from Gedmatch, I hope you found it interesting :)
 
Here is mine
37.46 n e euro
27.04 Mediterranean
17.64 Caucasian
9.57 baloch
6.38 s w asian
0.73 s-indian
0.5 american
O. 36 beringian
0.28 san
0.04 papuan

Single
Romanian behar 8.76
Bulgarian yunusbagev 11.2
Hungarian behar 11.85
French hgdp 12.85
Italian hgdp 13.47
Slovenian xing 13.76
Tuscan hapmap 16.74
Tuscan 1000 genome 17.12
N euro xing 17.88
Utahn white 1000 genome 17.92
Spainard behar 18.14
British 1000 genome 19.55
Orcadin hgdp 21.94
Ukranian yunusbagev 22.3
Ashkenazi harrappa 22.39
Ashkenazi jew behen 26.34
Puerto rican 1000 genome 26.97

Anybody knows what it means?
 
Results of Western Utter Pardesh Jatt of Sheoran clan.

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1Baloch35.24
2S-Indian25.99
3NE-Euro21.59
4Caucasian10.70
5Mediterranean2.13
6Beringian1.97
7American1.09

Using 1 population approximation:
1 haryana-jatt_harappa @ 4.921370
2 rajasthani-brahmin_harappa @ 10.091839
3 punjabi-jatt-sikh_harappa @ 10.791029
4 punjabi-khatri_harappa @ 12.489895
5 pushtikar-brahmin_harappa @ 13.064401
6 nepali_harappa @ 13.221250
7 pathan_hgdp @ 13.682179
8 nepalese-a_xing @ 13.999750
9 kashmiri_harappa @ 14.526115
10 punjabi-brahmin_harappa @ 14.567084
11 sindhi_harappa @ 14.720355
12 punjabi-jatt-muslim_harappa @ 14.901998
13 kashmiri-pandit_reich @ 14.926667
14 singapore-indian-c_sgvp @ 15.311931
15 bhatia_harappa @ 15.319475
16 burusho_hgdp @ 15.464457
17 punjabi_harappa @ 15.635611
18 pashtun_harappa @ 16.412382
19 up-muslim_harappa @ 16.463779
20 kalash_hgdp @ 16.468153
 
Population
S-Indian0.54
Baloch9.11
Caucasian28.70
NE-Euro29.51
SE-Asian-
Siberian-
NE-Asian0.54
Papuan-
American0.11
Beringian0.43
Mediterranean24.00
SW-Asian6.50
San-
E-African0.49
Pygmy0.07
W-African-

Greek whose ancestors lived in Eastern Thrace.
 

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