HarappaWorld Gedmatch, post and compare your admixtures to ancient and contemporary.

I see zero difference between french and italian women..........impossible to tell apart

That’s because you’re not focusing at their Faces.
Keep your eyes up, and don’t get distracted by looking below the neck. LoL :)
 
LeBrok, you can add Réunion results.

100% of ancestors of this person up to 7 generations back are from Réunion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Réunion

First Non-Réunionian ancestor (from Azores) appears in 8th generation back.

HarappaWorld:

Admixtures:

S-Indian 5.86
Baloch 7.69
Caucasian 7.73
NE-Euro 31.39
SE-Asian 2.66
Siberian 0.50
NE-Asian 2.06
Papuan 0.58
American 0.48
Beringian 0.24
Mediterranean 24.21
SW-Asian 2.14
San 0.38
E-African 0.15
Pygmy 1.01
W-African 12.93

Oracles:

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 french (hgdp) 21.06
2 puerto-rican (1000genomes) 21.86
3 romanian-a (behar) 22.1
4 hungarian (behar) 22.4
5 puerto-rican (bryc) 23.27
6 italian (hgdp) 23.32
7 slovenian (xing) 23.46
8 spaniard (behar) 23.82
9 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 23.99
10 utahn-white (1000genomes) 24.25
11 spaniard (1000genomes) 24.3
12 n-european (xing) 24.38
13 utahn-white (hapmap) 25.13
14 british (1000genomes) 25.19
15 tuscan (hapmap) 26.19
16 tuscan (hgdp) 26.34
17 tuscan (1000genomes) 26.62
18 orcadian (hgdp) 26.81
19 ukranian (yunusbayev) 29.47
20 dominican (bryc) 30.81

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72% french (hgdp) + 28% siddi (reich) @ 4.51
2 69.4% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 30.6% siddi (reich) @ 7.18
3 68.7% british (1000genomes) + 31.3% siddi (reich) @ 7.86
4 69.5% n-european (xing) + 30.5% siddi (reich) @ 7.91
5 58.9% hungarian (behar) + 41.1% dominican (bryc) @ 8.72
6 80.8% french (hgdp) + 19.2% fang (henn2012) @ 8.86
7 79.5% french (hgdp) + 20.5% bantusouthafrica (hgdp) @ 8.93
8 71.8% hungarian (behar) + 28.2% siddi (reich) @ 8.95
9 79.3% french (hgdp) + 20.7% pedi (xing) @ 9
10 80.7% french (hgdp) + 19.3% kaba (henn2012) @ 9.01
11 79.2% french (hgdp) + 20.8% nguni (xing) @ 9.03
12 81.4% french (hgdp) + 18.6% kongo (henn2012) @ 9.03
13 56.6% n-european (xing) + 43.4% dominican (bryc) @ 9.1
14 81.9% french (hgdp) + 18.1% bamoun (henn2012) @ 9.17
15 56.7% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 43.3% dominican (bryc) @ 9.18
16 60.8% french (hgdp) + 39.2% dominican (bryc) @ 9.2
17 78% french (hgdp) + 22% african-american (1000genomes) @ 9.2
18 57.7% slovenian (xing) + 42.3% dominican (bryc) @ 9.23
19 73.6% hungarian (behar) + 26.4% fulani (henn2012) @ 9.28
20 67.6% orcadian (hgdp) + 32.4% siddi (reich) @ 9.49

^^^ These are the Siddi:


About ethnic composition of the island:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Réunion#Ethnic_groups

"Ethnic groups present include people of European, African, Malagasy, Indians and Chinese origin as well as many of mixed race. Local names for these are used: Yabs, Cafres, Malbars and Zarabes (both ethnic groups of Indian origin) and Chinois.

The proportion of people of each ethnicity is not known exactly, since the 1958 constitution bans questions about ethnicity in compulsory censuses in France,[8] and applies in Réunion. Extensive and long-going intermarriage also blurs the issue. Whites are estimated to make up approximately one-quarter of the population, Indians also roughly a quarter, and people of Chinese ancestry to form roughly 3%. The percentages of racially mixed people and those of Afro-Malagasy origins vary wildly between estimates. Some people of Vietnamese ancestry also live on the island, though they are very few in number.[9][10][11]

People of Tamil origin make up the majority of the Indo-Réunionnais people; Gujarati, Bihari and other origins form the remainder of the population. The island's community of Muslims from modern region of Pakistan and North India and elsewhere is also commonly referred to as Zarabes.

Creoles (a name given to those born on the island, of various ethnic origins), make up the majority of the population. Groups that are not creole include people from Metropolitan France (known as Zoreilles) and those from Mayotte and the Comoros."
 
Mine:

NE-Euro 68.68
Mediterranean 15.67
Baloch 6.97
Caucasian 4.31
Siberian 2.32
NE-Asian 1.64
Beringian 0.41
 
Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 39.85
2 NE-Euro 29.33
3 Caucasian 14.78
4 SW-Asian 8.05
5 Baloch 3.61
6 W-African 1.63
7 E-African 1.29
8 Papuan 0.6
9 Pygmy 0.53
10 American 0.34
 
Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 39.85
2 NE-Euro 29.33
3 Caucasian 14.78
4 SW-Asian 8.05
5 Baloch 3.61
6 W-African 1.63
7 E-African 1.29
8 Papuan 0.6
9 Pygmy 0.53
10 American 0.34

That's very weird results is in't ? Being 29.33 NE-Euro and 39.85 Mediterranean but no sign of Western Euro and French-German, are those made up?
 
New member, my results. Where would the Beringian and San come into play?

NE-Euro 49.34
Mediterranean30.64
Caucasian9.79
Baloch8.17
SW-Asian1.16
Beringian0.48
San0.42

 
New member, my results. Where would the Beringian and San come into play?
NE-Euro 49.34
Mediterranean30.64
Caucasian9.79
Baloch8.17
SW-Asian1.16
Beringian0.48
San0.42
Beringian and San are just noise, ignore it. You can check your results against Europeans in post 1.
 
Beringian and San can come from minor Native American and Black African ancestry. Or they can be noise.
 
Based on Yang et al. 2011, White Americans are on average 98% European. Another study claimed 99%.

So minor Non-European admixtures such as minor Native and SSA are not so rare. Moreau et al. 2013 found out that average White Canadian is 2% Native American. But I know that this figure is higher for Acadians (this includes also Cajuns in the USA), who range from 2% to 30% Amerindian (average is probably about 10%). Acadians are concentrated in New Brunswick (30% of the population) and Nova Scotia (6%). Louisiana, Massachusetts, Maine, Quebec and Prince Edward Island also have Acadians (1% each).

There is also Acadian descent in France, and they could bring Amerindian admixture back to France:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_the_Acadians

French mixed with Amerindians more, because New France had a much smaller White population.

New France also had a deficit of White women, at least according to its first census of 1665/1666:

https://web.archive.org/web/20130517145727/http://statcan.gc.ca/kits-trousses/jt1-eng.htm
 
Based on study Yang et al. 2011, White Americans are on average 98% European.

So minor Non-European admixtures such as minor Native and SSA are not so rare.

Moreau et al. 2013 found out that average White Canadian is 2% Native American. But I know that this figure is higher for Acadians (this includes also Cajuns in the USA), who can have between 2% and 30% Amerindian. Acadians are concentrated in New Brunswick (30% of the population), Nova Scotia (6%). Louisiana, Massachusetts , Maine, Quebec and Prince Edward Island also have Acadian populations (1% each).

There is also Acadian descent in France, and they could bring Amerindian admixture back to France:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_the_Acadians

You can't compare Europeans to Americans. As far as Americans are concerned, in certain states which had high percentages of slaves there were admixed slaves who "passed" when they got light enough. Pretty ironic when you consider southern racial attitudes, especially from the Civil War to the 50s of the 20th century. A lot of these people would have had no idea.

There's nothing comparable in Europe.

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There's nothing comparable in Europe.

Well, Europe never had so many African slaves. And lack of Amerindian in Europe is self-explanatory.

White Canadians have 0% of SSA admixture, unlike White Americans especially in the south. Easy to explain (no cotton plantations in Canada).

On the other hand, White Canadians - especially the ones of French extraction - tend to score some Amerindian. Also easy to explain, as French colonies always struggled to get immigrants from Europe and they had to rely on alliances with various tribes against the English and against other tribes.

Moreover, New France apparently was a little bit like New Spain in terms of proportions of male to female population, at least at the beginning.

At the time of English-French wars in the 1700s, white population in English colonies was at least 10 times that of whites in French colonies.
 
1NE-Euro55.33
2Mediterranean26.28
3Caucasian9.34
4Baloch7.3
5American1.36
6SW-Asian0.27
7Papuan0.11
 
Is it me or are these gedmatch calculators totally unreliable when it comes to measuring Neolithic ancestry? Here it's measured using the Mediterranean component. The Mycenaeans score low 30 in that yet they are well over twice that in terms of total Neolithic ancestry based on professional data. Is it based on Sardinians (in one thread I learned they themselves took on a lot of extra whg when they formed).

To me, the best calculator out there in terms of measuring how much European Neolithic farmer (or like) ancestry you have is the one Kurd released last year (with the west/east Euro, Levant and Iran farmer components). Nothing else out there accurately measures farmer components nearly as well imo.
 
1NE-Euro55.33
2Mediterranean26.28
3Caucasian9.34
4Baloch7.3
5American1.36
6SW-Asian0.27
7Papuan0.11
Definitely North East Europe, very close to Polish admixtures.
 
puntDNAL K10 Ancient Admixture Proportions:

WHG 44.36
ENF 32.21
CHG23.44

No "noise" on this one.
 
Finnall

Population
S-Indian1.38
Baloch4.98
Caucasian13.78
NE-Euro29.43
SE-Asian0.60
Siberian-
NE-Asian0.33
Papuan-
American0.44
Beringian-
Mediterranean39.89
SW-Asian7.51
San-
E-African-
Pygmy0.90
W-African0.76

The closest match for you, I have in my database, is Portugal. Could be West Spanish, but I don't have Spain by regions.

Your paternal haplogroup could have something to do with Celts or Romans actually or some other emigrants to Iberia from these regions, but it's only 2 percent of your DNA.
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/maps_Y-DNA_haplogroups.shtml#R1b-S28
 
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Population
S-Indian -
Baloch 11.74
Caucasian 29.88
NE-Euro 22.94
SE-Asian -
Siberian 3.39
NE-Asian 1.17
Papuan 1.00
American -
Beringian 0.69
Mediterranean 19.24
SW-Asian 9.81
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African 0.07
 

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