Angela
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Johannes Krause, and perhaps Wolfgang Haak as well, have suggested another model for PIE language origin and dispersal, at least if this slide from one of Krause's recent speeches is any indication.
I don't think this is necessarily an endorsement of any sort of Anatolian farmer hypothesis a la the Renfrew model, at least not the original one.
Rather, it seems to address a possibility we've also discussed here, i.e. that there was a pre-PIE language or a first stage language leading to the Anatolian languages, and then a movement onto the steppe, the European IE languages spreading from there.
They also seem to propose a spread of Tocharian and the eastern PIE languages directly from Anatolia, not from the steppe.
As to the first half of their proposal, I wonder if perhaps they've found a lot of R1b in or south of the Caucasus that is like Yamnaya R1b but predates it. That would take care of the CHG in Yamnaya and Catacomb without all the stealing wives business. If that's what leads them to this, then Krause really does have a loose mouth. (Didn't he leak something before?)
As to the second half, I have to think about it some more. How does R1a Z93/94 fit into all of this? No wonder Eurogenes was going on trying to discredit Gramkelidze and Ivanov. He must have gotten wind of it, and was trying to do a pre-emptive strike. Maybe the Reich Lab might want to move up the publication date of their paper.
I don't think this is necessarily an endorsement of any sort of Anatolian farmer hypothesis a la the Renfrew model, at least not the original one.
Rather, it seems to address a possibility we've also discussed here, i.e. that there was a pre-PIE language or a first stage language leading to the Anatolian languages, and then a movement onto the steppe, the European IE languages spreading from there.
They also seem to propose a spread of Tocharian and the eastern PIE languages directly from Anatolia, not from the steppe.
As to the first half of their proposal, I wonder if perhaps they've found a lot of R1b in or south of the Caucasus that is like Yamnaya R1b but predates it. That would take care of the CHG in Yamnaya and Catacomb without all the stealing wives business. If that's what leads them to this, then Krause really does have a loose mouth. (Didn't he leak something before?)
As to the second half, I have to think about it some more. How does R1a Z93/94 fit into all of this? No wonder Eurogenes was going on trying to discredit Gramkelidze and Ivanov. He must have gotten wind of it, and was trying to do a pre-emptive strike. Maybe the Reich Lab might want to move up the publication date of their paper.