WW2 the first defeat of Axis.

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with a telegraph from Mussolini, asking Greece to allow Italian troops to march and take strategical positions and navy to control some ports.
the answer was ΟΧΙ - No - and as Grazzi writes in his book 'Alos est la querre'

the following days Italian army attack from Albania Greece,
Albania already was under Italian control, since they gave willingly 'land and water'
that time Italy had a modern European army, were only the number of mortars was able to create fear to enemy,
yet Pindos and VIII Greek division Hold the line,

that hold gave time to 3rd Greek Army Corp to organised and attack at 22 November 1940
at 24 November, Moschopolis changes hands and is under Greek control,

Historically that is the first Victory of allies against Axis.
Certainly for ground forces, you are correct. And thank you for the further reports regarding Greece's role in WW2.

Not that I agree, but the British maintain that its air battle with the Germans - Battle of Britain - was the first defeat of German forces. The wiki article below uses these dates, 10 July – 31 October 1940, which the Germans dispute, and are in reality arbitrary. The Germans use May 1940 - August 1941. If the latter dates are accepted as more realistic, then your assessment is correct in all respects. The article even notes (towards the bottom) that the biggest raid came in December 1940, "....​with one of the largest single raids on 19 December 1940, in which almost 3,000 civilians died."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain
 
dedicated to the παλικαρια palikaria of ΟΧΙ day

 
Certainly for ground forces, you are correct. And thank you for the further reports regarding Greece's role in WW2.

Not that I agree, but the British maintain that its air battle with the Germans - Battle of Britain - was the first defeat of German forces. The wiki article below uses these dates, 10 July – 31 October 1940, which the Germans dispute, and are in reality arbitrary. The Germans use May 1940 - August 1941. If the latter dates are accepted as more realistic, then your assessment is correct in all respects. The article even notes (towards the bottom) that the biggest raid came in December 1940, "....​with one of the largest single raids on 19 December 1940, in which almost 3,000 civilians died."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain


Κορυτσα and Μοσχοπολις is the first land taken by Axis and hold for 5 months
 
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and from balkan wars and WW1

a living myth, returning back 100 years after

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build at 1907 at Orlando Livorno, a Pisa class cruiser,
the most historical ship, that pass the Hellespontos,
Θ/Κ ΑΒΕΡΩΦ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_cruiser_Georgios_Averof
 
for the memory of the day,

at 2018 among Tepeleni and Dropolis (Βουλιαρατες)
there was the last transfer for the dead of WW2
so to have their final grave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=497ScYD63dk

a song dedicated to the OXI day (28 October)


for the history

Hill 731, or 'death's canyon'

it is the hill that accepted the most explosives in Europe at WW2,
after the end of battle the hill lost 5 meters height,
and change name to 726
(name is always after heigth)

«Επί των κατεχομένων θέσεων θα αμυνθώμεν μέχρι εσχάτων. Προμηνύεται λυσσώδης επίθεσις του εχθρού, η οποία οπωσδήποτε θα αποκρουσθή και θα συντριβή. Τότε μόνον θα διέλθη ο εχθρός εκ της τοποθεσίας μας, όταν αποθάνωμεν άπαντες επί των θέσεών μας. Ουδείς θα κινηθή προς τα οπίσω. Πάντες θα αποθάνωσι επί των θέσεών των». Αυτή ήταν η διαταγή που έδωσε ο ηρωικός ταγματάρχης Δημήτριος Κασλάς στις 9 Μαρτίου 1941. Στην επικές μάχες που ακολούθησαν τις επόμενες μέρες ρίφθηκαν τόσα πολλά πυρομαχικά όσα σε κανένα άλλο μέρος του κόσμου κατά τον Δεύτερο Παγκόσμιο Πόλεμο. Ήταν τόσα πολλά τα πυρά των Ιταλών στις 20 επιθέσεις που πραγματοποίησαν, που το ύψωμα μετά τις μάχες μειώθηκε κατά 5 μέτρα και σήμερα αναφέρεται στους χάρτες σαν ύψωμα 726 και όχι 731, μια και το υψόμετρο καθορίζει την ονομασία των υψωμάτων.


Well Wiki says 6 meters,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hill_731
 
Thed WW2 Thermopylae is the Hill 731,

the mountain lost 'lost' 5 meters of heigth, and become 726,
As also it the Hill the accepted the biggest quantity of explosives of all WW2 battles /m2.

History is written,
no matter some modern want to 'erase' it for other reasons,

The monument as was buld from that era
and the 'respect' to the one of most historical weigth battles of WW2,
by 'history erasers'

731+%CE%B5.jpg


----731---_-2016.jpg


DSC00201.jpg
 
Thed WW2 Thermopylae is the Hill 731,
the mountain lost 'lost' 5 meters of heigth, and become 726,
As also it the Hill the accepted the biggest quantity of explosives of all WW2 battles /m2.
History is written,
no matter some modern want to 'erase' it for other reasons,
The monument as was buld from that era
and the 'respect' to the one of most historical weigth battles of WW2,
by 'history erasers'
731+%CE%B5.jpg

----731---_-2016.jpg

DSC00201.jpg
Yeah, we know perfectly what happened at Thermopylae, soldiers of Commonwealth fought like lions, like the ancient Greeks meanwhile the modern Greeks escaped from the battlefield:
The absence of the Greek Army, from a battle at a site as significant to the national psyche as Thermopylae, was controversial within Greece, as General Georgios Tsolakoglou had already capitulated.
After the war, Aris Velouchiotis – a veteran of the 1941 campaign and leader of the Greek People's Liberation Army – argued that this fact was an eternal "shame" for the Greek regime that didn't took part in the battle.
And stop posting provocative materials from terrorist sources like the video in your previous post.
 
Yeah, we know perfectly what happened at Thermopylae, soldiers of Commonwealth fought like lions, like the ancient Greeks meanwhile the modern Greeks escaped from the battlefield:

And stop posting provocative materials from terrorist sources like the video in your previous post.

Laberia

WW2 at Greece,
had 4 faces,

The Italian Fasists attack
The Full Axis attack (Germany Italy Bulgaria Albania) 4 countries against 1
The Battle of Crete
the resistance

the rest is just up your mind and top channel,

for the truth
THERMOPYLAE THE ALLIES WERE SO DUMB,
THAT LEFT WITHOUT BOMBING THE BRIDGE.
WHICH LATER ZERBAS AND BELOUCHIOTIS DID,

AS FOR HILL 731
I SUGGEST READ CLEAR AND CORRECT,


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hill_731

THE BRITISH EXPEDITION AND THE ANZAC FORCES CAME TO DEFEND SOUTH GREECE FROM GERMANS
AND THEY FAILED.
AND THEY WERE NEVER AT NORTH EPIRUS.

Jealous is not a good advisor,

the BATTLE OF HILL 731 IS ONE OF THE TOP TEN SEMANTIC BATTLES of WW2,
CAUSE FOR FIRST TIME AXIS LOOSES LAND


BTW
HAVE YOU EVER WONDER WHY GREECE IS CELEBRATING THE START OF WAR AND NOT THE END AS THE REST DO?


and a song for you


We 've taken Argyrokastro
and far, far we go

Again you are the misinformation agency,
cause at Thermopylae there was no Greek armed to defend
the defence was at N Epirus and Metaxa bankers Line,
Thermopylae was supposed to be supported to be hold by Allies, as 2nd border line
so Greece not to surrender to Germans
which Allies fled, Leaving South Greece unprotected
and needed Greek resistance to attack and blow the Bridge.

That is an action of Zerbas and Belouchiotis,
a work that should be done by the supposed defenders of 2nd line borders

gorgopotamos_bridge.jpg


 
Laberia

WW2 at Greece,
had 4 faces,

The Italian Fasists attack
The Full Axis attack (Germany Italy Bulgaria Albania) 4 countries against 1
The Battle of Crete
the resistance

the rest is just up your mind and top channel,

for the truth
THERMOPYLAE THE ALLIES WERE SO DUMB,
THAT LEFT WITHOUT BOMBING THE BRIDGE.
WHICH LATER ZERBAS AND BELOUCHIOTIS DID,

AS FOR HILL 731
I SUGGEST READ CLEAR AND CORRECT,


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hill_731

THE BRITISH EXPEDITION AND THE ANZAC FORCES CAME TO DEFEND SOUTH GREECE FROM GERMANS
AND THEY FAILED.
AND THEY WERE NEVER AT NORTH EPIRUS.

Jealous is not a good advisor,

the BATTLE OF HILL 731 IS ONE OF THE TOP TEN SEMANTIC BATTLES of WW2,
CAUSE FOR FIRST TIME AXIS LOOSES LAND


BTW
HAVE YOU EVER WONDER WHY GREECE IS CELEBRATING THE START OF WAR AND NOT THE END AS THE REST DO?


and a song for you


We 've taken Argyrokastro
and far, far we go


Of course, people who decided to fight are dumb, the others who escaped are smart.
The rest of your post is full of lies and provocations and i don't intend to waste my time with you.
BTW, what have to do the Albanian TV channel, Top Channel with this story, can you explain this?
 
Of course, people who decided to fight are dumb, the others who escaped are smart.
The rest of your post is full of lies and provocations and i don't intend to waste my time with you.
BTW, what have to do the Albanian TV channel, Top Channel with this story, can you explain this?


your mind is confused,
just look what I write
and what you write,
 
your mind is confused,
just look what I write
and what you write,
My post is perfect. You have to stop editing your posts every 15 minutes.
However, returning to the topic we are discussing, i have a question for you:
Why did the British decide to kill Metaxa?
 
My post is perfect. You have to stop editing your posts every 15 minutes.
However, returning to the topic we are discussing, i have a question for you:
Why did the British decide to kill Metaxa?

That is a question,
which makes many to wonder,
and until now no official answer,

we had 4 strange deaths in Greece the last 80 years,
Metaxas
King Paulos
Nikitas Benizelos
Archbishop Christodoulos,


for the last exist documents why, and by who.
for the first 3 ones, Athough is certain the way, and in 2 we know the who,
Nobody knows the exact why.

there are 2 theories, for Metaxas,
but just a possible reason,
 
That is a question,
which makes many to wonder,
and until now no official answer,

we had 4 strange deaths in Greece the last 80 years,
Metaxas
King Paulos
Nikitas Benizelos
Archbishop Christodoulos,


for the last exist documents why, and by who.
for the first 3 ones, Athough is certain the way, and in 2 we know the who,
Nobody knows the exact why.

there are 2 theories, for Metaxas,
but just a possible reason,

Does this have to do with the scandalous behavior of the Greeks during the First World War? Perhaps the British were afraid that history could repeat itself, what do you think?
 
Does this have to do with the scandalous behavior of the Greeks during the First World War? Perhaps the British were afraid that history could repeat itself, what do you think?

Nope,

1 possible reason is clear economical and thefunds and control of resistance,
the other is political since Metaxas was a dictator meaning a kind of Fasist
and a possible split of King in Egypt and Metaxas at Athens

As for the 1rst WW, The behavour of Greece was not scandalous,
rather pionnering, like in WW2 and in Korea
it followed the unstable behavour of Britain to near and middle East,
the kings and prime ministers change, every time old Albion cough


Now can you tell me
WHY GREECE CELEBRATES THE ENTRY TO WAR,
AND NOT THE END OF THE WAR?
as allies and Russians do?
 
Nope,
1 possible reason is clear economical and thefunds and control of resistance,
the other is political since Metaxas was a dictator meaning a kind of Fasist
and a possible split of King in Egypt and Metaxas at Athens
As for the 1rst WW, The behavour of Greece was not scandalous,
rather pionnering, like in WW2 and in Korea
it followed the unstable behavour of Britain to near and middle East,
the kings and prime ministers change, every time old Albion cough
Now can you tell me
WHY GREECE CELEBRATES THE ENTRY TO WAR,
AND NOT THE END OF THE WAR?
as allies and Russians do?
Starting from the last one. I do not give a damn thing what and how you celebrate in Greece, it is important that you do not exaggerate with the consumption of ouzo and start dream Greek empires and other BS like this and create unpleasant situations like yesterday in South Albania. If you have an answer for your question, we are listening to you.
The economic reason is to be excluded, it is stupid to say it here.
The real reason is that Metaxas was a pro-German. The British very well remembered the scandalous behavior of the Greeks during the First World War when the Greeks were "divided" into two opposite camps, one part with the Antanta and the other part with the Central Powers. There is a very precise word to describe the behavior of the Greeks during the First World War, but in order to not offend you, i decided to use the word scandalous. There was also a Greek hunting in Canada for example, exactly because of this scandalous behavior.
The British, fearing that the situation could be repeated, eliminated Metaxas, they brought their army, navy and aviation in Greece. Technically your country was occupied by the British before being occupied by the Axis forces.
 
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Some people just can't contain their hatred of other groups.
 
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