Eupedia Forums
Site NavigationEupedia Top > Eupedia Forum & Japan Forum
Page 8 of 8 FirstFirst ... 678
Results 176 to 198 of 198

Thread: Genetic structure of the early Hungarian conquerors inferred from mtDNA and Y-DNA

  1. #176
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    17-03-13
    Posts
    774


    Country: Sweden



    2 members found this post helpful.
    http://real.mtak.hu/88674/1/Bernert_AK2018.pdf

    Bernert Zs., Fehér T., Varga D., Székely G., Németh E.:
    Testimony from the Bones of Hungarian King Béla III – Origins of the Árpád Dynasty.
    The role of applications based on machine learning is continuously growing in the industry, health sector/bioinformatics and scientific research. American researchers published a bit more than 10 years ago the first machine learning algorithms, which were able to safely predict Y-SNP based haplogroups from Y-STR data.

    The goal of the present study was to predict with machine learning algorithms the SNP-based subgroup of three ancient DNA samples (King Béla III and two Khazar samples) belonging to Y-DNA Haplogroup R1a, in order to predict their geographic origin and mutual genetic relatedness more accurately. This is the first study applying machine learning algorithms for researching Hungarian prehistory.
    Based on the Y-STR haplotype of King Béla III, we estimated with the machine learning algorithm in the first step that he belonged to the R1a-Z93 subgroup that is most common among Indo-Iranic and Turkic speaking peoples. The second step predicted that King Béla III belonged to the Z2123 subgroup of R1a-Z93. The Phylogenetic analysis showed King Béla III most likely belonged to the relatively rare YP451+ YP449- subgroup of Z2123, which practically only appears in the North Caucasus, especially among Karachays and Balkars.
    Based on our results, we could hypothetically conclude that the Árpád Dynasty has common origin with one ethnic component of the Karachay people.
    In our study we proved that it is possible to increase the accuracy of Y-DNA haplogroup prediction of historical aDNA samples with mathematical methods using contemporary Y-STR haplotypes. With the help of this method, larger historical aDNA studies could save a lot of research funds and DNA carrying out tailored deep SNP-testing of samples instead of using general SNaPshots.
    Keywords: Physical anthropology; Archaeogenetics; Machine learning; Y-SNP prediction; Y-STR; Gradient boosting; Árpád Dynasty; King Béla III; Hungarian ethnogenesis.

  2. #177
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    23-01-19
    Posts
    10


    Country: United States



    Such a good information

  3. #178
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    23-01-19
    Posts
    10


    Country: United States



    Hmm, guess it's much better to

  4. #179
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    23-01-19
    Posts
    10


    Country: United States



    Genetic structure is my favorite subject

  5. #180
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    23-01-19
    Posts
    10


    Country: United States



    Kinda keen on this

  6. #181
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    17-03-13
    Posts
    774


    Country: Sweden



    1 members found this post helpful.
    Genetic history of Bashkirian Mari and Southern Mansi ethnic groups in the Ural region

    https://link.springer.com/article/10...38-019-01555-x

    According to genetic studies, the Hungarian Y-chromosomal gene pool significantly differs from other Uralic-speaking populations. Hungarians possess a significant frequency of haplogroup R1a-Z280 and a low frequency of haplogroup N-Tat, which is common among other Uralic-speaking populations. Based on this evidence, we further worked to define the links between the linguistically related Hungarian, Mansi and Bashkirian Mari populations. Samples were collected from 45 Bashkirian Mari and 36 Southern Mansi males in the Ural region. We analyzed male-specific markers including 23 STRs and 36 SNPs, which reflect past and recent paternal genetic history. We found that the haplogroup distribution of the two population samples showed high genetic similarity to each other except for the N-Tat* and R1a-Z93 haplogroups in the Bashkirian Mari males. On the MDS plots constructed from Fst- and Rst-genetic distances, the Bashkirian Mari and Southern Mansi population groups showed close genetic affinities with the Khanty, Northern Mansi, Mari, and Estonian populations. For phylogenetic studies, networks were constructed for the most frequent haplogroups in both populations together with other Eurasian populations. Both populations shared common haplotypes within haplogroups R1a-Z280 or N-L1034 with Hungarian speakers, suggesting a common paternal genetic footprint that arose in prehistoric or historic times. Overall, the Hungarian, Mansi, and Bashkirian Mari populations have a much more complex genetic history than the traditional linguistic model or history would suggest. Further studies are needed to clarify the common genetic profiles may have been acquired directly or indirectly during the more or less known their history.

  7. #182
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    07-04-17
    Posts
    11


    Country: Hungary



    Y-chromosome haplogroups from Hun, Avar and conquering Hungarian period nomadic people of the Carpathian Basin

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/earl...97997.full.pdf

  8. #183
    Advisor bicicleur's Avatar
    Join Date
    27-01-13
    Location
    Zwevegem, Belgium
    Posts
    5,730


    Country: Belgium - Flanders



    Quote Originally Posted by elpike View Post
    Y-chromosome haplogroups from Hun, Avar and conquering Hungarian period nomadic people of the Carpathian Basin

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/earl...97997.full.pdf
    it's already on another thread : https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...730#post571730

  9. #184
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    10-02-18
    Location
    Nyírbátor, Szabolcs county
    Posts
    117

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    E-Y81971; R1a-YP415;
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H16f

    Ethnic group
    hungarian, ruthenian, celtic, proto-german, scandinavian
    Country: Hungary



    1 members found this post helpful.
    Very new results. I think it's very interesting:

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-YP1695/

    It seems, here is an 1100 years old pure hungarian bloodline from Inner Asia.

    id:YF02841 is from East-Kazahstan. Yessembayev from the nayman tribe.
    id:ERS2374408 is an ancient DNA sample from a tomb of a 2500 years old scythian warrior. The location: near the Tien-shan, East-Kazahstan.

  10. #185
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    17-03-13
    Posts
    774


    Country: Sweden



    1 members found this post helpful.
    Abstract

    Hungarians who live in Central Europe today are one of the westernmost Uralic speakers. Despite of the proposed Volga-Ural/West Siberian roots of the Hungarian language, the present-day Hungarian gene pool is highly similar to that of the surrounding Indo-European speaking populations. However, a limited portion of specific Y-chromosomal lineages from haplogroup N, sometimes associated with the spread of Uralic languages, link modern Hungarians with populations living close to the Ural Mountain range on the border of Europe and Asia. Here we investigate the paternal genetic connection between these spatially separated populations. We reconstruct the phylogeny of N3a4-Z1936 clade by using 33 high-coverage Y-chromosomal sequences and estimate the coalescent times of its sub-clades. We genotype close to 5000 samples from 46 Eurasian populations to show the presence of N3a4-B539 lineages among Hungarians and in the populations from Ural Mountain region, including Ob-Ugric-speakers from West Siberia who are geographically distant but linguistically closest to Hungarians. This sub-clade splits from its sister-branch N3a4-B535, frequent today among Northeast European Uralic speakers, 4000–5000 ya, which is in the time-frame of the proposed divergence of Ugric languages.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-44272-6




  11. #186
    Regular Member Ordas's Avatar
    Join Date
    29-08-17
    Location
    Austria
    Posts
    39

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    N1a1a1a1a4a2 -A9416
    MtDNA haplogroup
    J1c6

    Ethnic group
    Hungarian
    Country: Afghanistan



    Quote Originally Posted by kuzmosi View Post
    Very new results. I think it's very interesting:

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-YP1695/

    It seems, here is an 1100 years old pure hungarian bloodline from Inner Asia.

    id:YF02841 is from East-Kazahstan. Yessembayev from the nayman tribe.
    id:ERS2374408 is an ancient DNA sample from a tomb of a 2500 years old scythian warrior. The location: near the Tien-shan, East-Kazahstan.
    How can you see to whom the ancient DNA belongs on YFull?

    Sent from my SM-N950F using Eupedia Forum mobile app

  12. #187
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    17-03-13
    Posts
    774


    Country: Sweden



    1 members found this post helpful.
    Genetic analysis of male Hungarian Conquerors: European and Asian paternal lineages of the conquering Hungarian tribes

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12520-019-00996-0


    The 19 male individuals paternally belong to 16 independent haplotypes and 7 haplogroups (C2, G2a, I2, J1, N3a, R1a, and R1b). The presence of the N3a haplogroup is interesting because it rarely appears among modern Hungarians (unlike in other Finno-Ugric-speaking peoples) but was found in 37.5% of the Hungarian Conquerors.

  13. #188
    Regular Member Regio X's Avatar
    Join Date
    12-03-14
    Posts
    1,032


    Country: Italy



    deleted...

  14. #189
    Regular Member kingjohn's Avatar
    Join Date
    05-09-16
    Posts
    1,091

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    rare E-FGC7391
    MtDNA haplogroup
    h3ap

    Country: Uruguay



    j1 is surprising maybe the magyars
    picked it up during there journey
    cool finding overall

  15. #190
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    10-02-18
    Location
    Nyírbátor, Szabolcs county
    Posts
    117

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    E-Y81971; R1a-YP415;
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H16f

    Ethnic group
    hungarian, ruthenian, celtic, proto-german, scandinavian
    Country: Hungary



    Hungarian Conqueror Karos III (K3per1_GE)

    Ancient sample matches for this 1100 years old conquering hungarian sample, according the mytrueancestry's Olympus level option: Strong steppe ancestry (andronovo, cimmerians, scythians, sarmatians, avars, onogur-bolgars, other turkic tribes) and a strong germanic ancestry (and with this including a celtic/gaul ancetry). But the slavic ancestry is less than the celtic. Is this a big surprise?

    1. Hungary Avar Elite Kunpeszer-Felsopeszer (645 AD) ..... 15.04 - KFPper6_GE - Top 99 % match vs all users
    2. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 16.58 - scy010 - Top 87 % match vs all users
    3. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 17.42 - I12031 - Top 76 % match vs all users
    4. Western-Scythian Black Sea (290 BC) ..... 18.92 - MJ34 - Top 60 % match vs all users
    5. Eurasian Steppes Saka Scythian (775 BC) ..... 19.16 - DA130 Top 88 % match vs all users
    6. Western Pomerania Unetice (2000 BC) ..... 19.78 - Rise139 - Top 52 % match vs all users
    7. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) ..... 19.8 - AED_1108 - Top 33 % match vs all users
    8. Scythian Moldova (300 BC) ..... 19.83 - scy301 - Top 47 % match vs all users
    9. Early Sarmatian Russia (300 BC) ..... 19.89 - I0247 - Top 99 % match vs all users
    10. Finnic Sarmatian Warrior (605 AD) ..... 19.95 - NS12a - ? Top 98 % match vs all users
    11. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) ..... 20.11 - BIM_33 - Top 32 % match vs all users
    12. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 20.24 - SZ45 - Top 36 % match vs all users
    13. Early Slav-Mix Avar Grave (590 AD) ..... 20.53 - AV1 - Top 84 % match vs all users
    14. Gepid / Goth (450 AD) ..... 20.56 - Vim2 Top 95 % match vs all users
    15. Cimmerian Outlier Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 21.18 - MJ32 - Top 69 % match vs all users
    16. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 21.18 - scy009 - Top 59 % match vs all users
    17. Hungary Iron Age (800 BC) ..... 21.62 - IR1 - Top 59 % match vs all users
    18. Halstatt (775 BC) ..... 21.63 - DA112 - Top 31 % match vs all users
    19. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford (1002 AD) ..... 21.65 - V11P - Top 39 % match vs all users
    20. Swiss Germanic (580 AD) ..... 21.7 - CL102 - ? Top 26 % match vs all users
    21. Sarmatian Black Sea (50 AD) ..... 21.72 - DA144 - Top 84 % match vs all users
    22. Medieval Tyrolian (580 AD) ..... 21.91 - CL53 - Top 26 % match vs all users
    23. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 22.06 - SZ5 - Top 28 % match vs all users
    24. Germanic Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 22.26 - G119 - Top 28 % match vs all users
    25. Western-Scythian Outlier Black Sea (260 BC) ..... 22.36 - MJ46 - Top 34 % match vs all users
    26. Medieval Czech Brandysek (710 AD) ..... 22.41 - Rise569 - Top 43 % match vs all users
    27. Kievan Rus (1130 AD) ..... 22.42 - Sunghir6 - Top 90 % match vs all users
    28. Trans-Volga Forest Steppes Srubnaya (1550 BC) ..... 22.43 - I0232 - Top 47 % match vs all users
    29. Caspian Steppes (1550 BC) ..... 22.58 - IO232 Top 45 % match vs all users
    30. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 22.61 - DA199 - Top 26 % match vs all users
    31. Bell Beaker England (2000 BC) ..... 22.63 - I6679 - Top 31 % match vs all users
    32. Western Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 22.69 - MJ47 - Top 31 % match vs all users
    33. Germanic Mixed Tribe (505 AD) ..... 22.74 - AED125b - ? Top 34 % match vs all users
    34. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) ..... 22.75 - I2443 - Top 33 % match vs all users
    35. Bell Beaker Salisbury (2200 BC) ..... 22.77 - I6777 - Top 32 % match vs all users
    36. Ancient Siberia Tagar (850 BC) ..... 22.77 - DA8 - Top 96 % match vs all users
    37. Ancient Siberia Tagar (850 BC) ..... 22.78 - DA2 - Top 93 % match vs all users
    38. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 22.92 - OBS137 - ? Top 57 % match vs all users
    39. Baltic Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 22.96 - G1137 - Top 73 % match vs all users
    40. Trans-Volga Forest Steppes CWC (1725 BC) ..... 22.97 - kzb008 - Top 41 % match vs all users
    41. Medieval Denmark Ribe (1315 AD) ..... 23.06 - G864 - Top 87 % match vs all users
    42. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 23.08 - 6DRIF-21 - Top 30 % match vs all users
    43. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (580 AD) ..... 23.08 - CL47 - ? Top 25 % match vs all users
    44. Hunnic Tian Shan (475 AD) ..... 23.11 - DA65 Top 98 % match vs all users
    45. Trans-Volga Forest Steppes CWC (1725 BC) ..... 23.13 - kzb002 - Top 81 % match vs all users
    46. Eurasian Steppes (1500 BC) ..... 23.29 - DA231 Top 42 % match vs all users
    47. Andronovo Bayan-Zherek Mountains (1400 BC) ..... 23.29 - I1931 Top 69 % match vs all users
    48. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) ..... 23.33 - I5512 - Top 31 % match vs all users
    49. Greuthungi / Ostrogoth (400 AD) ..... 23.39 - MJ19 - Top 30 % match vs all users
    50. Czech Bilina_N_Baalberge CWC (3600 BC) ..... 23.44 - I6696 - ? Top 31 % match vs all users
    51. Germanic Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 23.46 - G1065 - Top 29 % match vs all users
    52. Early Bronze Age Blatne Slovakia (2100 BC) ..... 23.49 - BLAT_33_Co Top 37 % match vs all users
    53. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 23.54 - 6DRIF-22 - Top 28 % match vs all users
    54. North Central Lombard (580 AD) ..... 23.55 - CL63 - Top 24 % match vs all users
    55. Siberia Andronovo (1500 BC) ..... 23.62 - Rise500 - Top 75 % match vs all users
    56. Trans-Volga Forest Steppes CWC (1725 BC) ..... 23.63 - kzb006 Top 36 % match vs all users
    57. Bronze Age Prague Czech Kobylisy (1813 BC) ..... 23.68 - I4889 - Top 29 % match vs all users
    58. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 23.69 - I12163 - Top 25 % match vs all users
    59. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 23.7 - I12162 - Top 27 % match vs all users
    60. Siberia Afansievo Culture (2700 BC) ..... 23.78 - Rise511 - Top 68 % match vs all users
    61. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) ..... 23.84 - I5471 - Top 27 % match vs all users
    62. Corded Ware Germany (2400 BC) ..... 23.87 - I0104 - Top 34 % match vs all users
    63. Western-Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 23.88 - MJ16 - Top 32 % match vs all users
    64. Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech (2122 BC) ..... 23.93 - I4886 - Top 27 % match vs all users
    65. Sala Silver Mine Sweden (1610 AD) ..... 23.99 - Sk6866 - Top 38 % match vs all users
    66. Onogur-Bulgar Rostov Steppes (770 AD) ..... 24.04 - DA142 - Top 99 % match vs all users
    67. Alemannic Bavaria (495 AD) ..... 24.05 - STR_316 - Top 30 % match vs all users
    68. Western Scythian Ukraine (580 BC) ..... 24.06 - MJ13 - Top 32 % match vs all users
    69. Swede Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 24.14 - G208 - Top 30 % match vs all users
    70. Hungary Elite Avar Kiskoros-Vaghohid (690 AD) ..... 24.15 - KVper3369_GE - Top 99 % match vs all users
    71. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 24.22 - scy006 - Top 29 % match vs all users
    72. Early Sarmatian Russia (575 BC) ..... 24.23 - MJ41 - Top 70 % match vs all users
    73. Germanic Tribe Spreitenbach CWC Switzerland (2660 BC) ..... 24.23 - MX190 - Top 29 % match vs all users
    74. Sarmatian Russia (140 AD) ..... 24.26 - chy001 - Top 88 % match vs all users
    75. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 24.29 - SZ23 - Top 26 % match vs all users
    76. Eastern Scythian Zevakino-Chilikta (800 BC) ..... 24.29 - IS2 - Top 98 % match vs all users
    77. Swede Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 24.3 - G942 Top 34 % match vs all users
    78. Bronze Age Szolad Hungary (1000 BC) ..... 24.31 - SZ1 - Top 74 % match vs all users
    79. Iron Age Sarmatian (350 BC) ..... 24.33 - I0575 - Top 97 % match vs all users
    80. Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 24.35 - G33 - Top 30 % match vs all users
    81. Sarmatian Steppes (220 AD) ..... 24.39 - tem002 - Top 78 % match vs all users
    82. Bronze Age Covesea Cave Scotland (2000 BC) ..... 24.43 - I3132 - Top 30 % match vs all users
    83. Siberia Karasuk (1400 BC) ..... 24.46 - Rise499b - Top 97 % match vs all users
    84. Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech (1813 BC) ..... 24.5 - I4896 - Top 25 % match vs all users
    85. Belgic Tribe Colmar France (340 BC) ..... 24.56 - COL153i - Top 28 % match vs all users
    86. Iron Age Ingria (130 AD) ..... 24.58 - VIII7 - Top 37 % match vs all users
    87. Western Scythian Ukraine (580 BC) ..... 24.58 - MJ35 - Top 49 % match vs all users
    88. Belgic Tribe Nordhouse France (500 BC) ..... 24.6 - NOR3-6 - Top 27 % match vs all users
    89. Turkic (768 AD) ..... 24.6 - DA228 Top 99 % match vs all users
    90. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 24.61 - SZ11 - Top 31 % match vs all users
    91. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) ..... 24.64 - scy311 - Top 23 % match vs all users
    92. Andronovo Culture Pavlodar (1500 BC) ..... 24.65 - I10112 Top 35 % match vs all users
    93. Viking Denmark Odense (1058 AD) ..... 24.67 - G507 - Top 30 % match vs all users
    94. Bronze Age Netherlands (1775 BC) ..... 24.69 - I4070 - Top 31 % match vs all users
    95. Bell Beaker Germany (2250 BC) ..... 24.73 - I0806 - Top 30 % match vs all users
    96. Frankish-Gallic Lombard Grave (590 AD) ..... 24.75 - SZ27 Top 23 % match vs all users
    97. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2273 BC) ..... 24.78 - UNTA85_1343 - Top 27 % match vs all users
    98. Bronze Age Prague Czech Kobylisy (1813 BC) ..... 24.79 - I4888 - Top 25 % match vs all users
    99. Bronze Age Vatya Hungary (1750 BC) ..... 24.79 - Rise479 - Top 82 % match vs all users
    100. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 24.82 - SZ14 - Top 29 % match vs all users
    101. Ciry-Salsogne Bell Beaker France (2520 BC) ..... 24.84 - CBV95 - Top 35 % match vs all users
    102. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 24.89 - SZ38 - ? Top 25 % match vs all users
    103. Obalczkowo Wielkopolska Poland CWC (2630 BC) ..... 24.9 - poz44 - Top 34 % match vs all users
    104. Early Slav Avar Grave (590 AD) ..... 24.91 - AV2 - Top 87 % match vs all users
    105. Proto-Slavic Late Neolithic Wartau Switzerland (2510 BC) ..... 24.92 - MX298 Top 87 % match vs all users
    106. Fennoscandia Mix Finland (550 AD) ..... 24.92 - DA237 - ? Top 95 % match vs all users
    107. Bronze Age Prague Czech Kobylisy (1813 BC) ..... 24.94 - I4885 - Top 23 % match vs all users
    108. Bronze Age Prague Czech Kobylisy (1813 BC) ..... 25.0 - I4892 - Top 31 % match vs all users
    109. Iron Age Colmar France (340 BC) ..... 25.05 - COL11 - Top 28 % match vs all users
    110. Pre-Slav Medieval Poland (1100 AD) ..... 25.06 - PCA157_Mar6 - ? Top 47 % match vs all users
    111. Early Sarmatian Russia (550 BC) ..... 25.07 - MJ56 - Top 88 % match vs all users
    112. Kimak Turkic Tribe (800 AD) ..... 25.07 - DA87 - Top 99 % match vs all users
    113. Ancient Gotlander (2750 BC) ..... 25.1 - Ajvide52 - Top 68 % match vs all users
    114. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 25.15 - 3DRIF-16 - Top 27 % match vs all users
    115. Andronovo Bayan-Zherek Mountains (1750 BC) ..... 25.15 - I0507 Top 81 % match vs all users
    116. Young Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 25.18 - NS6 - Top 30 % match vs all users
    117. Middle Sarmatian Urals (266 BC) ..... 25.22 - MJ44 - Top 84 % match vs all users
    118. Corded Ware Germany (2500 BC) ..... 25.32 - I0103 - Top 35 % match vs all users
    119. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 25.33 - Sigtuna grt036 - Top 30 % match vs all users
    120. Bell Beaker Augsburg (2215 BC) ..... 25.34 - HUGO_168 - Top 30 % match vs all users
    121. Czech Radovesice X Club CWC (2350 BC) ..... 25.35 - I7209 - ? Top 40 % match vs all users
    122. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) ..... 25.4 - I5382 - Top 31 % match vs all users
    123. Alemannic Bavaria (495 AD) ..... 25.4 - AED_106 - Top 31 % match vs all users
    124. Andronovo Culture Western Steppes (1300 BC) ..... 25.47 - I11538 Top 39 % match vs all users
    125. Chalmny-Varre Kola Peninsula (1800 AD) ..... 25.54 - CHV001 Top 97 % match vs all users
    126. Bronze Age Oostwoud Netherlands (2040 BC) ..... 25.55 - I4075 - Top 31 % match vs all users
    127. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 25.55 - NS3b - Top 71 % match vs all users
    128. Pre-Slav Medieval Poland (950 AD) ..... 25.56 - PCA133_Niemcza19 - ? Top 93 % match vs all users
    129. Bronze Age Earith Cambridgeshire England (1400 BC) ..... 25.58 - I7568 - Top 29 % match vs all users
    130. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) ..... 25.62 - Shohola - Top 29 % match vs all users
    131. Iron Age Arzhan Russia (650 BC) ..... 25.62 - I0577 - Top 99 % match vs all users
    132. Turkic (685 AD) ..... 25.67 - DA89 Top 99 % match vs all users
    133. Bishop Peder Winstrup (1679 AD) ..... 25.7 - LUND1n - Top 28 % match vs all users
    134. Ancient Siberia Tagar (850 BC) ..... 25.72 - DA4 - Top 84 % match vs all users
    135. Sarmatian Ukraine (2680 BC) ..... 25.74 - MJ33 - Top 93 % match vs all users
    136. Pre-Slav Medieval Poland (950 AD) ..... 25.75 - PCA124_Niemcza10 - ? Top 55 % match vs all users
    137. Western Scythian Mix Hungary (550 BC) ..... 25.76 - DA197 - Top 28 % match vs all users
    138. Medieval Piedmont (580 AD) ..... 25.83 - CL57 - Top 23 % match vs all users
    139. Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) ..... 25.83 - I12032 - Top 24 % match vs all users
    140. Viking Denmark Revshale (1080 AD) ..... 25.87 - Revshale16 - Top 29 % match vs all users
    141. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 25.94 - SZ22 - Top 30 % match vs all users
    142. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford (1002 AD) ..... 25.95 - V4P - Top 25 % match vs all users
    143. Germanic Tribe Spreitenbach CWC Switzerland (2200 BC) ..... 25.96 - MX196 Top 31 % match vs all users
    144. Post Viking Denmark Tirup (1200 AD) ..... 26.0 - G300 - Top 29 % match vs all users
    145. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) ..... 26.01 - I2566 - Top 29 % match vs all users
    146. Fennoscandia Finland (550 AD) ..... 26.02 - JK1968 - Top 94 % match vs all users
    147. Early Sarmatian Russia (550 BC) ..... 26.02 - LS13 - Top 76 % match vs all users
    148. Gallo-Roman Lombard Grave (580 AD) ..... 26.02 - CL94 - Top 27 % match vs all users
    149. Bronze Age Prague Czech Kobylisy (1813 BC) ..... 26.04 - I4891 - Top 26 % match vs all users
    150. Altenerding Dark Ages Germany (550 AD) ..... 26.07 - AE1175 - Top 31 % match vs all users

  16. #191
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    17-03-13
    Posts
    774


    Country: Sweden



    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41431-020-0683-z

    The phylogenetic origins of the Hungarians who occupied the Carpathian basin has been much contested [40]. Based on linguistic arguments it was proposed that they represented a predominantly Finno-Ugric speaking population while the oral and written tradition of the Árpád dynasty suggests a relationship with the Huns. Based on the genetic analysis of two members of the Árpád Dynasty, it appears that they derived from a lineage (R-Z2125) that is currently predominantly present among ethnic groups (Pashtun, Tadjik, Turkmen, Uzbek, and Bashkir) speaking Iranian or Turkic languages.

  17. #192
    Regular Member Hawk's Avatar
    Join Date
    11-11-19
    Posts
    473

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    E-V13

    Country: Japan



    2 members found this post helpful.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41431-020-0683-z/tables/2

    E-BY4992

    E-V13 S2979 sampe in the Hungarian burial

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basili...ed_Virgin_Mary

    Looks like he was a German probably, this subclade is present among Germans.

  18. #193
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    10-02-18
    Location
    Nyírbátor, Szabolcs county
    Posts
    117

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    E-Y81971; R1a-YP415;
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H16f

    Ethnic group
    hungarian, ruthenian, celtic, proto-german, scandinavian
    Country: Hungary



    1 members found this post helpful.
    At Maciamo's request, I collected 32 modern Hungarian samples from the country and among Hungarians abroad. And the results were very similar. Strong steppe ancestry (1/3)scythian, sarmatian, hungarian conqueror, avar and hun in one of the samples. Just as strong germanic ancestry (1/3) (the strongest is the scandinavian). And the third 1/3 is very varied, but usually a mix of celtic and slavic/baltic ancestry. The balkanic and mediterran ancestry is almost completely missing (except one sample). Finno-ugric and turkish heritage is also missing. But each sample has conquering hungarian matches. Some of them:











  19. #194
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    28-03-20
    Posts
    370


    Country: Austria



    Quote Originally Posted by kuzmosi View Post
    At Maciamo's request, I collected 32 modern Hungarian samples from the country and among Hungarians abroad.
    Can you please tell what their results on 23andme look like?

  20. #195
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    10-02-18
    Location
    Nyírbátor, Szabolcs county
    Posts
    117

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    E-Y81971; R1a-YP415;
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H16f

    Ethnic group
    hungarian, ruthenian, celtic, proto-german, scandinavian
    Country: Hungary



    2 members found this post helpful.
    Of course which I have:

    The first sample is mine:
    56,3% eastern european (Lesser Poland (Poland), Ternopil (Ukraine) +32 regions
    29,2% southern europe Cluj (Romania) + 9 region (all from north Romania)
    5,8% northwestern european (from this: 3,7% Germany (Bavaria + 3 region); 0,3% british and irish; 1,8% broadly nortwestern e)
    8,2% broadly european
    0,2% trace ancestry (manchurian and mongolian)

  21. #196
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    17-03-13
    Posts
    774


    Country: Sweden



    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...07.13.200154v1

    Abstract

    The ancient Hungarians originated from the Ural region of Russia, and migrated through the Middle-Volga region and the Eastern European steppe into the Carpathian Basin during the 9th century AD. Their Homeland was probably in the southern Trans-Ural region, where the Kushnarenkovo culture disseminated. In the Cis-Ural region Lomovatovo and Nevolino cultures are archaeologically related to ancient Hungarians. In this study we describe maternal and paternal lineages of 36 individuals from these regions and nine Hungarian Conquest period individuals from today’s Hungary, as well as shallow shotgun genome data from the Trans-Uralic Uyelgi cemetery. We point out the genetic continuity between the three chronological horizons of Uyelgi cemetery, which was a burial place of a rather endogamous population. Using phylogenetic and population genetic analyses we demonstrate the genetic connection between Trans-, Cis-Ural and the Carpathian Basin on various levels. The analyses of this new Uralic dataset fill a gap of population genetic research of Eurasia, and reshape the conclusions previously drawn from 10-11th century ancient mitogenomes and Y-chromosomes from Hungary.


  22. #197
    Regular Member kingjohn's Avatar
    Join Date
    05-09-16
    Posts
    1,091

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    rare E-FGC7391
    MtDNA haplogroup
    h3ap

    Country: Uruguay



    Quote Originally Posted by gyms View Post
    Genetic analysis of male Hungarian Conquerors: European and Asian paternal lineages of the conquering Hungarian tribes

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12520-019-00996-0


    The 19 male individuals paternally belong to 16 independent haplotypes and 7 haplogroups (C2, G2a, I2, J1, N3a, R1a, and R1b). The presence of the N3a haplogroup is interesting because it rarely appears among modern Hungarians (unlike in other Finno-Ugric-speaking peoples) but was found in 37.5% of the Hungarian Conquerors.

    wow this is almost 40% y haplogroup N

  23. #198
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    17-03-13
    Posts
    774


    Country: Sweden



    https://link.springer.com/article/10...39-020-02209-4

    Using a fine-scale approach (haplotype instead of haplogroup-level information), we propose Scytho-Siberians as ancestors of the Xiongnu and Huns as their descendants.

    The most frequent Xiongnu Y-haplogroup is R-Z2125 (R1a1a1b2a2a).

    The Árpád Dynasty
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41431-020-0683-z

    The remains belonging to Béla III (HU3B) and HU52 are derived for R-Z2125 (R1a1a1b2a2a).


Page 8 of 8 FirstFirst ... 678

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •