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    Genetic distance from West Eurasian groups (Using Gedrosia K9 Calculator)

    Using red for Europeans (politically used)
    Blue for Near Eastern groups
    Black for unclassifiable groups


    Based on Gedrosia K9 ASI

    Genetic distance from a Gulf Arab:

    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1
    Yemenite_Jew 5.49
    2 Saudi 9.49
    3 BedouinA
    12.25
    4 Yemen 15.21
    5 Jordanian 22.43
    6 Syrian 23.93
    7 Lebanese 25.31
    8 Iraqi_Jew 26.96
    9 Druze 27.01
    10
    Cypriot 30.89
    11
    Iranian_Jew 32.42
    12 Georgian_Jew 32.71
    13 Armenian 36.18
    14 Turkish 37.84
    15
    Maltese 38.52
    16
    Kurd_N 39.43
    17
    Azeri 39.53
    18
    Iranian 40.57
    19
    Sicilian 41.06
    20 Georgian 43.64


    Genetic distance from an Armenian:


    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1
    Armenian 3.69
    2
    Georgian_Jew 5.47
    3 Iranian_Jew 7.26
    4 Druze 9.02
    5
    Kurd_N 9.31
    6 Iraqi_Jew 9.84
    7 Turkish 9.87
    8
    Georgian 9.89
    9
    Azeri 10.05
    10 Cypriot 10.16
    11 Lebanese 11.02
    12 Abkhasian 12.14
    13 Iranian 12.4
    14 Syrian 12.6
    15 Jordanian 14.28
    16
    Adygei 15.15
    17
    Kumyk 15.57
    18 Azeri_Dagestan 15.6
    19 Kurd_C 15.68
    20
    Chechen 17.47


    Genetic distance from an Ashkenazi Jew:

    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1
    Sicilian 5.83
    2 Maltese 5.9
    3 Greek 9.33
    4 Albanian 11.37
    5 Tuscan 12.21
    6
    Cypriot 13.17
    7
    Turkish 13.31
    8
    Bulgarian 16.96
    9
    Lebanese
    17.32
    10 Druze 18.49
    11 Syrian 18.82
    12 Kumyk 19.44
    13
    Jordanian 19.52
    14
    Armenian
    19.91
    15
    Adygei 19.98
    16
    Georgian_Jew
    20.89
    17
    Azeri 21.18
    18 Iraqi_Jew 21.64
    19
    Chechen
    21.79
    20
    Spanish 22.16


    Genetic distance from a Bulgarian:

    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1
    Bulgarian 5.38
    2 Albanian 9.95
    3 Greek 10.46
    4 Tuscan 11.49
    5 Croatian 11.79
    6 French 13.53
    7 Spanish 13.74
    8 Hungarian 13.87
    9 Sicilian 15.13
    10 Maltese 16.85
    11 English 17.05
    12 Scottish 17.38
    13 French_South 18.22
    14 Czech 18.59
    15 Ukrainian 19.22
    16 Norwegian 20.07
    17
    Tatars 21.43
    18
    Icelandic 22.19
    19
    Kumyk 22.62
    20 Turkish 23.26


    Genetic distance from a Belarussian:

    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1
    Belarusian 3.89
    2 Norwegian 3.9
    3 Ukrainian 4.24
    4 Icelandic 4.52
    5 Czech 6.1
    6 Scottish 6.37
    7 Russian 6.44
    8 English 8.37
    9 Estonian 8.43
    10 Lithuanian 8.74
    11 Finnish 9.61
    12 Hungarian 10.03
    13 RISE_irSca 10.67
    14
    Karelia 11.11
    15 RISE_baBb 12.33
    16
    Croatian
    13.64
    17 French 14.24
    18 RISE_baSca 15.44
    19 RISE_baUne 18.47
    20 Tatars 19.67


    Genetic distance from an Algerian:

    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1
    Maltese 18.71
    2 Sicilian 21.2
    3
    Jordanian 23.86
    4
    Greek 24.18
    5 Albanian
    24.34
    6
    Tuscan 24.37
    7
    Lebanese 24.64
    8 Syrian 25.02
    9 Cypriot 25.09
    10 BedouinA
    25.63
    11 Yemen 26.74
    12 Turkish 28.12
    13 Druze 28.28
    14
    Bulgarian 28.81
    15
    Spanish
    29.05
    16 Sardinian 30.83
    17
    Iraqi_Jew 31.78
    18 Armenian 33.14
    19 Georgian_Jew 33.39
    20 Iranian_Jew 34.47


    Genetic distance from an Italian (Naples)

    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1
    Maltese 3.75
    2 Sicilian 4.27
    3 Greek 9.47
    4 Albanian 11.61
    5
    Cypriot 11.74
    6
    Tuscan 11.76
    7
    Turkish 14.97
    8 Lebanese 17.07
    9 Druze 18.1
    10
    Bulgarian 18.16
    11
    Syrian 19.13
    12 Jordanian 19.46
    13 Armenian 20.25
    14
    Iraqi_Jew 21.5
    15 Georgian_Jew 21.51
    16
    Kumyk 22.06
    17
    Spanish 22.32
    18
    Adygei 22.37
    19
    Azeri 22.96
    20 Iranian_Jew 23.15


    Genetic distance from a Greek (Chios)

    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1
    Cypriot 8.02
    2
    Sicilian 8.29
    3 Maltese 8.75
    4
    Turkish 11.47
    5
    Greek 13.08
    6
    Lebanese 14.25
    7 Druze 14.5
    8
    Armenian 15.56
    9
    Albanian 15.75
    10
    Tuscan 15.9
    11
    Syrian 16.87
    12 Georgian_Jew 17.27
    13 Jordanian 17.38
    14 Iraqi_Jew 17.76
    15 Iranian_Jew 18.72
    16
    Azeri 19.13
    17
    Adygei 19.74
    18
    Kumyk 19.75
    19
    Georgian 19.82
    20
    Kurd_N 20.59

    Genetic distance from a Portuguese (Madeira)

    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1
    Spanish 6.25
    2 Bulgarian 9
    3 Albanian 10.58
    4 Tuscan 10.76
    5 Croatian 11.06
    6 French 11.2
    7 French_South 11.71
    8 Greek 13.09
    9 Hungarian 14.28
    10 Sicilian 16.47
    11 Maltese 16.56
    12 English 16.91
    13 Scottish 17.7
    14 Czech 18.43
    15 Ukrainian 20.33
    16 Norwegian 20.75
    17 Sardinian 21.87
    18 Icelandic 22.02
    19 Belarusian 24.08
    20 RISE_baBb 24.33


    Genetic distance from a Finnish Saami:

    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1 Tatars 12.96
    2
    Russian 20.12
    3 Karelia 20.76
    4
    Finnish 21.4
    5 Scythian_IA 25.58
    6 RISE_irAltai 26.89
    7
    Ukrainian 27.05
    8 Belarusian
    27.09
    9 Estonian 27.37
    10 RISE_baMezh 27.46
    11
    Scottish 28.05
    12 Norwegian 28.09
    13 RISE_baBb 28.6
    14
    Czech 28.69
    15 Icelandic 28.72
    16 Hungarian 28.99
    17 RISE_baKarasuk 29.03
    18
    Lithuanian 29.04
    19 English 30.05
    20 RISE_irSca 30.19


    Iraqi Jewish

    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1
    Druze 4.47
    2 Georgian_Jew 5.4
    3 Iraqi_Jew 5.61
    4 Iranian_Jew 6.35
    5 Lebanese 6.4
    6 Armenian 6.89
    7 Syrian 7.9
    8 Cypriot 8.6
    9
    Jordanian 9.57
    10 Turkish 11.6
    11 Kurd_N 12.03
    12 Azeri 12.5
    13 Iranian 14.44
    14
    Georgian 14.56
    15
    Abkhasian 16.6
    16
    Kurd_C 19.26
    17
    Adygei 19.27
    18
    Kumyk 19.31
    19 Azeri_Dagestan 19.58
    20 BedouinA 19.84


    Lebanese:

    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1
    Druze 3.21
    2 Lebanese 3.98
    3 Cypriot 5.21
    4
    Iraqi_Jew 6.86
    5 Syrian 7.19
    6 Jordanian 7.44
    7 Georgian_Jew 10.14
    8 Iranian_Jew 10.74
    9 Armenian 11.37
    10 Turkish 14.09
    11 BedouinA 16.89
    12 Kurd_N 17.27
    13
    Azeri 17.39
    14
    Maltese 18.25
    15
    Georgian 18.95
    16
    Sicilian 19.25
    17
    Iranian 19.79
    18
    Abkhasian 21.18
    19
    Yemen 22.44
    20 Kumyk 22.72


    Swedish:

    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1
    Norwegian 1.8
    2 Czech 2.12
    3 Icelandic 2.74
    4 Scottish 2.96
    5 Ukrainian 3.44
    6 English 4.55
    7 Belarusian 5.18
    8 Hungarian 6.8
    9 Croatian 10.1
    10 Russian 10.16
    11 French 10.27
    12 Lithuanian 10.56
    13 Estonian 11.01
    14 RISE_irSca 12.14
    15 RISE_baBb 12.34
    16
    Finnish 12.81
    17 Karelia 14.32
    18 French_South 15.54
    19 RISE_baSca 15.83
    20
    Spanish 18.39


    Turkish:

    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1
    Turkish 7.93
    2
    Sicilian 11.35
    3 Maltese 12.62
    4
    Greek 12.91
    5 Kumyk 13.64
    6
    Adygei 14.15
    7
    Albanian 15.19
    8
    Cypriot 15.75
    9 Azeri 16.07
    10
    Chechen 16.36
    11 Tuscan 16.38
    12
    Armenian 17.8
    13
    Azeri_Dagestan 18.61
    14
    Bulgarian 18.72
    15
    Lebanese 18.81
    16 Georgian_Jew 19.26
    17
    Georgian 19.38
    18 Lezgin 19.52
    19
    Kurd_N 19.54
    20 Druze 19.56



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    Nice post! Thanks for the Naples sample!

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    If these results are based on individuals of which we know nothing, and which are already based on amateur calculators, and not on samples chosen according to scientific criteria, it's pure anthrotardism that only helps to add more confusion to the confusion. Most of those results are at very huge distances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    Most of those results are at very huge distances.
    Huge distances? really

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanp View Post
    Huge distances? really
    Basically the same distance that exists between genetics and your posts. Most of these etnicities come off because not all the etnicities are covered by amateur calculators.

    - Genetic distance from a Swedish:

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    Population (source) Distance
    1 Norwegian 1.8

    - Genetic distance from a Gulf Arab:

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    Population (source) Distance

    19 Sicilian 41.06
    20 Georgian 43.64

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    Basically the same distance that exists between genetics and your posts. Most of these etnicities come off because not all the etnicities are covered by amateur calculators.

    - Genetic distance from a Swedish:

    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1 Norwegian 1.8

    - Genetic distance from a Gulf Arab:

    #
    Population (source) Distance

    19 Sicilian 41.06
    20 Georgian 43.64

    Swedes and Norwegians overlap the only problem this calculator had no Swedish reference populations. I can guarantee Swedes and Norwegians can't be cold apart just by genetic.

    Sicilians have significant Levant Neolithic admixture along with other elements which is shared with Saudis. Yes They're marginally closer to Gulf Arabs than North Caucasians, it may be hard to live with but it's genetic not political, cultural discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanp View Post
    Swedes and Norwegians overlap the only problem this calculator had no Swedish reference populations. I can guarantee Swedes and Norwegians can't be cold apart just by genetic.

    Sicilians have significant Levant Neolithic admixture along with other elements which is shared with Saudis. Yes They're marginally closer to Gulf Arabs than North Caucasians, it may be hard to live with but it's genetic not political, cultural discussion.
    What is hard to live with is that 2017 is starting off with an invasion of idiotic anthrofora types who have nothing better to do with their lives than obsess over who has more Near Eastern ancestry.

    I have warned you that there will be no tolerance for provocative, Nordicist threads here. This thread is closed, and you have yet another infraction.

    If you want to continue to post here, cut it out.


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