What does Hungarian language-folk music sound like?
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Do you mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYgOjW-VArA
or...
The Mystery of Bulgarian Voices
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrcgDhpS3uo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yr2gZSz-iE
Bosnia and Herzegovina Music and Images
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYIr5iy4VmU
Hungarian folk music changed greatly beginning in the 19th century, evolving into a new style that had little in common with the music that came before it. Modern Hungarian music was characterized by an "arched melodic line, strict composition, long phrases and extended register", in contrast to the older styles which always utilize a "descending melodic line".[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Hungary
http://www.hungarianhistory.com/lib/timeless/chapter03.htm
http://mek.oszk.hu/02700/02790/html/121.html
The oldest stratum of Hungarian folk music is characterized by the pentatonic scale and structure which repeats the melody a perfect fifth lower. If we take as our starting point the note “g”, the outline of the scale is as follows: g1 – b1 – c2 – d2 – f2. The missing notes often occur as unaccented passing notes. Today this structure is rarely found in a pure and untouched form, but if the influences of later centuries are stripped away, numerous melodies may be uncovered which were thought to be new. The texts in this kind of folk music comprise four lines: the third and fourth being sung a perfect fifth lower than the first two.Although the pentatonic scale can be found in the music of practically every people, this melodic repetition at the interval of the perfect fifth is found mainly in areas of Hungary. Already a half century ago the idea emerged that this type of melody has its closest link with the melodies of the Mari (Cheremiss) people living in the Soviet Union. Often the similarity is so great that it is almost impossible to differentiate Hungarian and Cheremiss songs. This melodic form has also been found among the Chuvashes, where similarly it represents the oldest layer. Related forms occur even in Mongolia, so that this style can rightly be called Central Asian. We know what a great influence the Bulgaro-Turkish people, who spoke the language of the Chuvashes, exerted over the Hungarian language in the 7th to 8th centuries, and we have to suppose that musical connections also originate from this period.
The possibility also arose that the songs of mourning for the dead preserved Ob-Ugrian, or more precisely, Ostyak, connections. However {430.} the relationship is not that simple, because most likely this is a case of both having derived from the same source, the source from which the ancient Hungarian pentatonic world of melody, arising from North-Central Asia, could also have originated through appropriate transposition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Hungary
http://www.hungarianhistory.com/lib/timeless/chapter03.htm
http://mek.oszk.hu/02700/02790/html/121.html
The oldest stratum of Hungarian folk music is characterized by the pentatonic scale and structure which repeats the melody a perfect fifth lower. If we take as our starting point the note “g”, the outline of the scale is as follows: g1 – b1 – c2 – d2 – f2. The missing notes often occur as unaccented passing notes. Today this structure is rarely found in a pure and untouched form, but if the influences of later centuries are stripped away, numerous melodies may be uncovered which were thought to be new. The texts in this kind of folk music comprise four lines: the third and fourth being sung a perfect fifth lower than the first two.Although the pentatonic scale can be found in the music of practically every people, this melodic repetition at the interval of the perfect fifth is found mainly in areas of Hungary. Already a half century ago the idea emerged that this type of melody has its closest link with the melodies of the Mari (Cheremiss) people living in the Soviet Union. Often the similarity is so great that it is almost impossible to differentiate Hungarian and Cheremiss songs. This melodic form has also been found among the Chuvashes, where similarly it represents the oldest layer. Related forms occur even in Mongolia, so that this style can rightly be called Central Asian. We know what a great influence the Bulgaro-Turkish people, who spoke the language of the Chuvashes, exerted over the Hungarian language in the 7th to 8th centuries, and we have to suppose that musical connections also originate from this period.
The possibility also arose that the songs of mourning for the dead preserved Ob-Ugrian, or more precisely, Ostyak, connections. However {430.} the relationship is not that simple, because most likely this is a case of both having derived from the same source, the source from which the ancient Hungarian pentatonic world of melody, arising from North-Central Asia, could also have originated through appropriate transposition.
You have no idea about Hungarian folk music research.
Start with this: http://folklife.hu/roots-to-revival...the-history-of-hungarian-folk-music-research/
The significance of the pentatonic scale to Hungarian folk music was first posited in conjunction with Kodály’s studies in Northern Hungary and Bartók’s fieldwork in eastern Transylvania, leading to the examination of a possible eastern connection among the Finno-Ugric and Turkic peoples of the Volga River region. Bartók extended his own research to include first Hungary’s Romanian, Slovakian, and Serbian neighbours, and later, even more distant peoples (Turks and Arabs), while Kodály broke ground in his exploration of eastern relationships and the comparison of Hungarian folk music to known historical melodies.
http://kodaly.hu/
Start with this: http://folklife.hu/roots-to-revival...the-history-of-hungarian-folk-music-research/
The significance of the pentatonic scale to Hungarian folk music was first posited in conjunction with Kodály’s studies in Northern Hungary and Bartók’s fieldwork in eastern Transylvania, leading to the examination of a possible eastern connection among the Finno-Ugric and Turkic peoples of the Volga River region. Bartók extended his own research to include first Hungary’s Romanian, Slovakian, and Serbian neighbours, and later, even more distant peoples (Turks and Arabs), while Kodály broke ground in his exploration of eastern relationships and the comparison of Hungarian folk music to known historical melodies.
http://kodaly.hu/
Mostly like Balkan Music? Are you serious?
Accidental crumbs:
Taraf De Haidouks - Balkan Gypsy Folk Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT4IufMeyYA
Serbian Folk Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkUf0217e2k
Traditional Turkish Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsE05nXQPwo
Bulgarian folk music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YullUoHgBMA
Macedonian folk Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80JAhPr0Mf0
Albanian folk music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS-YqAzQj2g
Traditional music from Montenegro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxrLu3ILaBA
Romanian folk music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvUdIb76LpQ
Greek folk music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3dMggO82Yg
Rhythm of the Balkans - Balkan Folk Music Mix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c5XbRZF2VM
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On 1:22 we do have a mocan shepherd out there....
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/mokány
The first song sounds Central European (Polish,Slovak,etc.),the second,older,from the same area,but epic Medieval-derived.
Even if they use cymbals, I don't see any similarity with the Balkans.
Probably I'm subjective being Romanian, but many of theirs popular songs remind me of those played around Hungary, especially in Romania, but also in other Balkan countries like Serbia or Croatia ... I think there is also the influence of the Slovakian and Austrian folk.
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"Transylvanian mountain shepherd", but they came from the Old Wallachian ...possessions,like Marginimea Sibiului or Tara Oltului(TaraFagarasului).
No buts here,we do have some thin chronicle men that have specific said about them:" they wear Wallachian clothes".
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/mokány
No buts here,we do have some thin chronicle men that have specific said about them:" they wear Wallachian clothes".
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/mokány
By the way. I've been looking a few years ago to see what percentage of family names related to shepherds, Romania and Hungary have. I do not have the exact proportions now, but I remember that the ratio is about 3(Romanian) / 4(Hungarians). So Hungarians have more with ~ 25% that kind of surname. So it is likely that sheep breeding was an important occupation in Hungary and that is reflected in their folklore also.
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With all due respect, I know that suit,we call it sarica, here in the village, people still wore(until 1945;including my own) those shepherd pants of rough cloth,cioareci,and the opinca shoes.
Since is made from sheepskins ,it can keep them warm,I guess...
https://www.viata-libera.ro/media/k2/items/cache/3b92391999a20c408f44c280d61ebc32_XL.jpg
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/sarică
Since is made from sheepskins ,it can keep them warm,I guess...
https://www.viata-libera.ro/media/k2/items/cache/3b92391999a20c408f44c280d61ebc32_XL.jpg
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/sarică
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