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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Calls attention the considerable variation even in Veneto. Looking to the seven other kits I know from the area, the following are the most distant from each other. Yellow - Central Treviso. Red - North Vicenza (SE Altipiano, near Bassano).


    agree with yellow, but more Treviso, Padova , Venice connection .........while the red seems to far away from Bassano which is only 6km from my mothers paternal line.

    I also disagree since I run currently from Treviso and in the past Schio ( south of Bassano ) , Magre' ( east trentino ) , Tres ( central trentino ) ..........these are still linguistically Veneto lands but no where near your red dot ............I guess the red dot should represent Piedmonte
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    agree with yellow, but more Treviso, Padova , Venice connection .........while the red seems to far away from Bassano which is only 6km from my mothers paternal line.

    I also disagree since I run currently from Treviso and in the past Schio ( south of Bassano ) , Magre' ( east trentino ) , Tres ( central trentino ) ..........these are still linguistically Veneto lands but no where near your red dot ............I guess the red dot should represent Piedmonte
    You posted at the same time I deleted mine, since the last map I posted, just few time ago, already showed all the samples, including the two in question.
    The red dot, as I said, comes from the SE of the Altipiano, abt. 15 km from Bassano (see my PM to you). Possibly it represents better some specific areas of the region. Anyway, Veneto as a whole seems to present a considerable variation.
    Father's MDKAs
    Male lineage: G2a-L497 -> G2a-L42; TV, Italy.
    Female lineage: T1b (unkown subclade); TV, Italy.

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    Male lineage: R1b-U152 -> R1b-L2 (xZ49, Z367); TV, Italy.
    Female lineage: H1e*; PN, Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    You posted at the same time I deleted mine, since the last map I posted, just few time ago, already showed all the samples, including the two in question.
    The red dot, as I said, comes from the SE of the Altipiano, abt. 15 km from Bassano (see my PM to you). Possibly it represents better some specific areas of the region. Anyway, Veneto as a whole seems to present a considerable variation.
    ok, thnaks

    but the dot stating the word N.Italian represents all across north italy .........but the plotting of oneself must reflect only a few centuries of ones paternal and maternal combinations

    I noted trentino for my paternal line because they left that area and entered Veneto ~1630 ..........if I only go from this time then my maternal fathers line is Dogana ( venice lagoon area ) , my mothers line ( both sides ) has always been in veneto


    Are you updating and presenting your map again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Anyway, Veneto as a whole seems to present a considerable variation.
    It's true, I can confirm having seen many samples from Veneto (they are more north/north-west or more north-east than the average based on the HGDP sample). But a considerable variation exists also in any region in Italy, at least the regions I've seen so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    ok, thnaks

    but the dot stating the word N.Italian represents all across north italy .........but the plotting of oneself must reflect only a few centuries of ones paternal and maternal combinations

    I noted trentino for my paternal line because they left that area and entered Veneto ~1630 ..........if I only go from this time then my maternal fathers line is Dogana ( venice lagoon area ) , my mothers line ( both sides ) has always been in veneto


    Are you updating and presenting your map again?
    See my post nr. 49. I was talking about that map.
    I can't link my parents to any "specific" area in Veneto, because they have ancestry from different parts of the region. :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    It's true, I can confirm having seen many samples from Veneto (they are more north/north-west or more north-east than the average based on the HGDP sample). But a considerable variation exists also in any region in Italy, at least the regions I've seen so far.
    Agreed. Probably there is considerable variation even in Sardinia. I don't know about Aosta Valley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    In ancestry, yes. Just one great-grandmother in paternal line born in Lombardy (close to the border with Veneto).

    Sure I can post; why not? Here they are (me / father / mother).
    Population
    North_Sea 18.00 / 19.38 / 21.49
    Atlantic 27.25 / 21.32 / 23.29
    Baltic 7.31 / 9.23 / 8.51
    Eastern_Euro 5.55 / 5.85 / 5.84
    West_Med 18.05 / 18.59 / 19.59
    West_Asian 10.25 / 8.54 / 8.92
    East_Med 11.91 / 14.39 / 10.22
    Red_Sea 1.69 / 1.08 / 1.95
    South_Asian - / 1.62 / -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian - / - / 0.18
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -
    Here are 13 kits I have from the area (excluding mine - to avoid overlaping -, including my parents', Sile's - but not his sister's - and others).

    Thanks a lot ! Do you have the gedmatch numbers of all these Venetians ? I have only 3 venetians, im very interested in that part of Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    See my post nr. 49. I was talking about that map.
    I can't link my parents to any "specific" area in Veneto, because they have ancestry from different parts of the region. :)
    .
    Veneti scholars go by this

    in map - pure Veneti ( yellow only ) from ancient euganei people

    orange and green are secondary ...either trentini or eastern



    the borders are not national border of today

    so whereever your parents are from in veneto , it would be one of these 3

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    I dont understand how are you able to plot yourself. It says i need to dowload the image and then upload it to a drawing program....what drawing program? i tried downloading one and dont see anywhere how to plot this thing.

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    2 out of 2 members found this post helpful.
    all you need to download is the image, then in order to find where you plot, open the image in any drawing program, the default one for most people is the PC available "Paint" tool, once you're in there, if you move your cursor over the image you will see in the bottom left hand corner of the screen (i think) numbers that represent the pixel coordinates that change as you move the cursor over the image. If you dont have Paint but a different program like photoshop, there should be an area in the program where you can see the pixel location.

    Using the coordinates the calculator app gives you, you generally need to scroll around over the image until you zero in on your coordinate. Then what the people here have been doing is using the paintbrush function to draw on the point themselves. It sounds more complicated than it is.

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    I cluster by "French"(East French?) like in every ADMIXTURE test. My Dad is the red dot, hypothetical mom is the pink dot. I'm English, Spanish, Norwegian, German, Swiss, and dose of Amerindian and smaller dose of West African. It ends up looking like East French, South Dutch, West Germans, and Swiss.
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    Interestingly enough, the K15 Calculator has me pegged closest to Moldovans 3.486864. The map confirms it (won't let me post links until I hit 10 posts.) I do not have any known Moldovan/Vlach ancestry and something seems to be pulling me East. Moldovans might be a good proxy for Slavs mixed with Paleo-Balkanoids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Haired14 View Post
    I cluster by "French"(East French?) like in every ADMIXTURE test. My Dad is the red dot, hypothetical mom is the pink dot. I'm English, Spanish, Norwegian, German, Swiss, and dose of Amerindian and smaller dose of West African. It ends up looking like East French, South Dutch, West Germans, and Swiss.
    is it accurate ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by srdceleva View Post
    I dont understand how are you able to plot yourself. It says i need to dowload the image and then upload it to a drawing program....what drawing program? i tried downloading one and dont see anywhere how to plot this thing.
    use paint program in microsoft package

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    is it accurate ?
    It appears to be accurate. I can't judge its accuracy because I don't know exactly what my ancestry is. I don't know where in Germany/Switzerland my mom's ancestors came from, it seems most came from the Western and Southern parts. My mom's grandma had a Swiss Dad and a "Prussian" Mom(U5b2a2b1). My mom's grandma would maybe cluster closest to Germany but have a pull towards North Italy. Just a guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Haired14 View Post
    It appears to be accurate. I can't judge its accuracy because I don't know exactly what my ancestry is. I don't know where in Germany/Switzerland my mom's ancestors came from, it seems most came from the Western and Southern parts. My mom's grandma had a Swiss Dad and a "Prussian" Mom(U5b2a2b1). My mom's grandma would maybe cluster closest to Germany but have a pull towards North Italy. Just a guess.
    'East French, South Dutch, West Germans, and Swiss' .... something 'celtic' or the geographic middle of your ancestors?

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    K15_paint_plot.jpg

    K15
    Population
    North_Sea 31.52
    Atlantic 16.65
    Baltic 20.74
    Eastern_Euro 15.15
    West_Med 8.54
    West_Asian 0.70
    East_Med 4.31
    Red_Sea -
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    Southeast_Asian 0.18
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    Amerindian 0.76
    Oceanian 0.39
    Northeast_African 0.53
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    # Population (source) Distance
    1 East_German 8.05
    2 Hungarian 8.51
    3 Southwest_Finnish 8.59
    4 North_Swedish 9.19
    5 Finnish 9.41
    6 Ukrainian 10.86
    7 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.01
    8 Swedish 11.07
    9 South_Polish 11.15
    10 Polish 12.09
    11 Norwegian 12.27
    12 Austrian 12.45
    13 Croatian 12.7
    14 West_German 12.84
    15 Estonian 12.87
    16 North_German 13.08
    17 East_Finnish 13.68
    18 Moldavian 13.78
    19 Danish 14.22
    20 North_Dutch 14.23

    The red dot is me, green is my brother and blue my dad.

    What I don't understand is why on my Oracle it lists me as genetically closer to populations like Hungary and the Ukraine but on the map I look extremely close to north Germans and other Western European populations.
    Last edited by srdceleva; 16-02-17 at 17:22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosnian Boss View Post
    Interestingly enough, the K15 Calculator has me pegged closest to Moldovans 3.486864. The map confirms it (won't let me post links until I hit 10 posts.) I do not have any known Moldovan/Vlach ancestry and something seems to be pulling me East. Moldovans might be a good proxy for Slavs mixed with Paleo-Balkanoids.

    Here is the map I can finally upload:


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    I can't post links but I cluster in between East German and Hungarian based on the K15 map.

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    Here's mine. 100% Peloponnesian-Messenia

    Attachment 9075 Plotting between Bulgarian and Tuscany north of Thessaly

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    Greek/Peloponnesian/Messenia PCA Again

    Tony_ccordinates copy.jpgSeems fairly accurate based on the various calculators I've checked and kind of suggests that Greece is a mixed bag (regionally).

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    Here is mine
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    1 Atlantic 26.04
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    I cant post links to images but my coordinates are (306, 154).

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