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Thread: H95a - Alpine Italian marker ?

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    T1a2 - SK1480
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H95a

    Ethnic group
    North Italian
    Country: Australia



    Another match for me ( 3rd to 6th cousin ) 2 shared segments , also shared with my sister

    via surname Burkhardt
    to
    Atilana Vettorazzi
    from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levico_Terme
    Trentino


    ................................................

    same distant and match as my confirmed grandmother sister Maternal side with the Vendrasco family from Oné 31010 Province of Treviso

    and same again with the Mara von Escher match from Trentino

    all are linked
    Fathers mtdna ... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ... K1a4p
    Mum paternal line ... R1b-S8172
    Grandmum paternal side ... I1-Y33791
    Wife paternal line ... R1a-Z282

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    H95a

    Ethnic group
    North Italian
    Country: Australia



    Another mtdna match

    Steiner family from Barbian South Tyrol

    oldest I was told

    Anna Steiner b.1781
    father Michael
    mother Maria Gagriller also from barbian

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbian

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    H95a

    Ethnic group
    North Italian
    Country: Australia



    Another match for me ...........this time in
    Zufikon
    Aargau, 5620 Switzerland

    Justina Eichholzer circa 1900

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    H95a

    Ethnic group
    North Italian
    Country: Australia



    Another H95a match for myself and my sister

    surname = Chrzan
    from......Visby Gotland, Sweden

    All other swedes I have ( 4 of them ) are from Scania Sweden

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    Swedish Maiden names are impossible to track...every surname is different for the women following daughter to mother to grandmother etc

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    Ethnic group
    North Italian
    Country: Australia



    Got a email from Annika ( sweden ) yesterday in regards to her grandmother South-Tyrol H95a origins ...................migrated via marriage to Sweden 1919
    They have very close matches to familiy surnamed Zordan ( Giordano in Italian )...2nd cousins .................link found in Queensland Australia ( more investigations needed by me )

    Origine del cognome Zordan

    Origine

    Deriva da modificazioni dialettali del nome Giordano.
    Tracce di questa cognomizzazione si trovano nel 1400 a Venezia con il Notaio Daniele Zordan che esercitò dal 1484 al 1517.
    Il cognome Zordan è tipico veneto, con massima concentrazione nel vicentino.


    I cannot see any notable % of the name in Trentino area
    file:///C:/Users/User/AppData/Local/Temp/899163_nachnamen_in_suedtirol_-_2010.pdf

    Zorda è quasi unico ed è quasi sicuramente dovuto ad un errore di trascrizione di Zordan, che è tipico veneto, con massima concentrazione nel vicentino, Zordani, quasi unico, è dovuto a errori di trascrizione, derivano da modificazioni dialettali del nome Giordano, tracce di questa cognominizzazione le troviamo nel 1400 a Venezia con il Notaio Daniele Zordan che esercitò dal 1484 al 1517.

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    H95a

    Ethnic group
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    Country: Australia



    Another H95a , further details................my closest match in ftdna ...............surname Ciot from Vittorio Veneto ( town was known as Ceneda prior WW1 ) and also nearly town fregona.

    Ciotti/Ciot oltre che da una forma ipocoristica aferetica di Felice, potrebbe derivare dall'aggettivo medievale 'ciotto' = "sciancato", mantenutosi nell'antico italiano.

    They are also related to the Ciot of Prata di Pordenone


    I am linked with this line that died in WW1
    CIOT Antonio ...........S. Giovanni al Natisone T.492 ..........11/1/1917

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    Got a email from Annika ( sweden ) yesterday in regards to her grandmother South-Tyrol H95a origins ...................migrated via marriage to Sweden 1919
    They have very close matches to familiy surnamed Zordan ( Giordano in Italian )...2nd cousins .................link found in Queensland Australia ( more investigations needed by me )

    Origine del cognome Zordan

    Origine

    Deriva da modificazioni dialettali del nome Giordano.
    Tracce di questa cognomizzazione si trovano nel 1400 a Venezia con il Notaio Daniele Zordan che esercitò dal 1484 al 1517.
    Il cognome Zordan è tipico veneto, con massima concentrazione nel vicentino.


    I cannot see any notable % of the name in Trentino area
    file:///C:/Users/User/AppData/Local/Temp/899163_nachnamen_in_suedtirol_-_2010.pdf

    Zorda è quasi unico ed è quasi sicuramente dovuto ad un errore di trascrizione di Zordan, che è tipico veneto, con massima concentrazione nel vicentino, Zordani, quasi unico, è dovuto a errori di trascrizione, derivano da modificazioni dialettali del nome Giordano, tracce di questa cognominizzazione le troviamo nel 1400 a Venezia con il Notaio Daniele Zordan che esercitò dal 1484 al 1517.

    Further drilling down ( easy because Women do not take the husband surname in Marriage ) ....found Zordan mother wassurname Carlassare from Cogollo del Cengio , Vicenza Province.......her mother was a Panozzo from Tresche Conca ( now known as Roana ) , this Panozzo was Teresa Panozzo born 1820 who married Francesco Lello.......
    Lello matches me also in my ydna matches

    The Lello family in USA seem to be un-contactable as this is where Lello link me to

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    Another mtdna match

    Steiner family from Barbian South Tyrol

    oldest I was told

    Anna Steiner b.1781
    father Michael
    mother Maria Gagriller also from barbian

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbian

    This line of H95a ( found recently in the Hafner family tree ) went from Steiner to Scheider to Stanger and to Peroni 1935-1997 ...............all from Innsbruck to Trento line

    Pity the woman change their surname after marriage, hard to follow

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    Further drilling down ( easy because Women do not take the husband surname in Marriage ) ....found Zordan mother wassurname Carlassare from Cogollo del Cengio , Vicenza Province.......her mother was a Panozzo from Tresche Conca ( now known as Roana ) , this Panozzo was Teresa Panozzo born 1820 who married Francesco Lello.......
    Lello matches me also in my ydna matches

    The Lello family in USA seem to be un-contactable as this is where Lello link me to

    In contact with the person who runs this family line and they are H95a also have a line which is from Falze Veneto

    my search begins here
    https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/...munal-cemetery

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    traced another swedish line of H95a ................linked with me in Ftdna and Geni ............spoken to family member recently ..............

    This is the hokansdotter line
    born sweden, died in finland

    Kreeta Hookanantytär


    English (default): Kreeta Hookanantytär, Swedish: Greta Håkansdotter


    Gender: Female
    Birth: 1630
    Replösa, Ljungby, Sweden
    Death: May 27, 1693 (62-63)
    Alperi, Veteli, Finland


    ........................
    she only had one daughter.......see below
    ........................
    Kaarina Mikontytär


    Swedish: Carin Mickelsdotter

    Gender: Female
    Birth: October 16, 1666
    Veteli, Finland

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