H95a - Alpine Italian marker ?

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Another match for me ( 3rd to 6th cousin ) 2 shared segments , also shared with my sister

via surname Burkhardt
to
Atilana Vettorazzi
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levico_Terme
Trentino


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same distant and match as my confirmed grandmother sister Maternal side with the Vendrasco family from Oné 31010 Province of Treviso

and same again with the Mara von Escher match from Trentino

all are linked

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Another mtdna match

Steiner family from Barbian South Tyrol

oldest I was told

Anna Steiner b.1781
father Michael
mother Maria Gagriller also from barbian

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbian

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Another match for me ...........this time in
Zufikon
Aargau, 5620 Switzerland

Justina Eichholzer circa 1900

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Another H95a match for myself and my sister

surname = Chrzan
from......Visby Gotland, Sweden

All other swedes I have ( 4 of them ) are from Scania Sweden

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Swedish Maiden names are impossible to track...every surname is different for the women following daughter to mother to grandmother etc

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Got a email from Annika ( sweden ) yesterday in regards to her grandmother South-Tyrol H95a origins ...................migrated via marriage to Sweden 1919
They have very close matches to familiy surnamed Zordan ( Giordano in Italian )...2nd cousins .................link found in Queensland Australia ( more investigations needed by me )

Origine del cognome Zordan

Origine

Deriva da modificazioni dialettali del nome Giordano.
Tracce di questa cognomizzazione si trovano nel 1400 a Venezia con il Notaio Daniele Zordan che esercitò dal 1484 al 1517.
Il cognome Zordan è tipico veneto, con massima concentrazione nel vicentino.


I cannot see any notable % of the name in Trentino area
file:///C:/Users/User/AppData/Local/Temp/899163_nachnamen_in_suedtirol_-_2010.pdf

Zorda è quasi unico ed è quasi sicuramente dovuto ad un errore di trascrizione di Zordan, che è tipico veneto, con massima concentrazione nel vicentino, Zordani, quasi unico, è dovuto a errori di trascrizione, derivano da modificazioni dialettali del nome Giordano, tracce di questa cognominizzazione le troviamo nel 1400 a Venezia con il Notaio Daniele Zordan che esercitò dal 1484 al 1517.

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Another H95a , further details................my closest match in ftdna ...............surname Ciot from Vittorio Veneto ( town was known as Ceneda prior WW1 ) and also nearly town fregona.

Ciotti/Ciot oltre che da una forma ipocoristica aferetica di Felice, potrebbe derivare dall'aggettivo medievale 'ciotto' = "sciancato", mantenutosi nell'antico italiano.

They are also related to the Ciot of Prata di Pordenone


I am linked with this line that died in WW1

CIOT

Antonio

...........S. Giovanni al Natisone T.492

..........11/1/1917

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Got a email from Annika ( sweden ) yesterday in regards to her grandmother South-Tyrol H95a origins ...................migrated via marriage to Sweden 1919
They have very close matches to familiy surnamed Zordan ( Giordano in Italian )...2nd cousins .................link found in Queensland Australia ( more investigations needed by me )

Origine del cognome Zordan

Origine

Deriva da modificazioni dialettali del nome Giordano.
Tracce di questa cognomizzazione si trovano nel 1400 a Venezia con il Notaio Daniele Zordan che esercitò dal 1484 al 1517.
Il cognome Zordan è tipico veneto, con massima concentrazione nel vicentino.


I cannot see any notable % of the name in Trentino area
file:///C:/Users/User/AppData/Local/Temp/899163_nachnamen_in_suedtirol_-_2010.pdf

Zorda è quasi unico ed è quasi sicuramente dovuto ad un errore di trascrizione di Zordan, che è tipico veneto, con massima concentrazione nel vicentino, Zordani, quasi unico, è dovuto a errori di trascrizione, derivano da modificazioni dialettali del nome Giordano, tracce di questa cognominizzazione le troviamo nel 1400 a Venezia con il Notaio Daniele Zordan che esercitò dal 1484 al 1517.

Further drilling down ( easy because Women do not take the husband surname in Marriage ) ....found Zordan mother wassurname Carlassare from Cogollo del Cengio , Vicenza Province.......her mother was a Panozzo from Tresche Conca ( now known as Roana ) , this Panozzo was Teresa Panozzo born 1820 who married Francesco Lello.......
Lello matches me also in my ydna matches

The Lello family in USA seem to be un-contactable as this is where Lello link me to

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Another mtdna match

Steiner family from Barbian South Tyrol

oldest I was told

Anna Steiner b.1781
father Michael
mother Maria Gagriller also from barbian

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbian

This line of H95a ( found recently in the Hafner family tree ) went from Steiner to Scheider to Stanger and to Peroni 1935-1997 ...............all from Innsbruck to Trento line

Pity the woman change their surname after marriage, hard to follow

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Further drilling down ( easy because Women do not take the husband surname in Marriage ) ....found Zordan mother wassurname Carlassare from Cogollo del Cengio , Vicenza Province.......her mother was a Panozzo from Tresche Conca ( now known as Roana ) , this Panozzo was Teresa Panozzo born 1820 who married Francesco Lello.......
Lello matches me also in my ydna matches

The Lello family in USA seem to be un-contactable as this is where Lello link me to

In contact with the person who runs this family line and they are H95a also have a line which is from Falze Veneto

my search begins here
https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/...munal-cemetery

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traced another swedish line of H95a ................linked with me in Ftdna and Geni ............spoken to family member recently ..............

This is the hokansdotter line
born sweden, died in finland

Kreeta Hookanantytär


English (default): Kreeta Hookanantytär, Swedish: Greta Håkansdotter

Gender:	Female
Birth:	1630 Replösa, Ljungby, Sweden
Death:	May 27, 1693 (62-63) Alperi, Veteli, Finland

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she only had one daughter.......see below
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Kaarina Mikontytär


Swedish: Carin Mickelsdotter

Gender:	Female
Birth:	October 16, 1666 Veteli, Finland

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traced another swedish line of H95a ................linked with me in Ftdna and Geni ............spoken to family member recently ..............

This is the hokansdotter line
born sweden, died in finland

Kreeta Hookanantytär


English (default): Kreeta Hookanantytär, Swedish: Greta Håkansdotter

Gender:	Female
Birth:	1630 Replösa, Ljungby, Sweden
Death:	May 27, 1693 (62-63) Alperi, Veteli, Finland

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she only had one daughter.......see below
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Kaarina Mikontytär


Swedish: Carin Mickelsdotter

Gender:	Female
Birth:	October 16, 1666 Veteli, Finland

Mitochondrial DNA H95a: found in Sweden and north-east Italy (https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_H_mtDNA.shtml).
YFull (https://www.yfull.com/) gives the haplo group an age estimation of 5400 (700-19200) years.


This mtDNA haplo is also found in Finland. It seems, that Greta Håkansdotter [Kreeta Hookanantytär Alberi] brought the haplo to Finland with her. She was born in Ljungby, Southern Sweden, around 1630, and came as a soldier's wife over to Kälviä, Western Finland, about 1660. She has thousands of descendants in Finland. Three persons in her straight maternal line proved by the church rercords has been tested to mitochondrial DNA haplo H95a by FTDNA.


Kreeta Hookanantytär Alberi

Greta Håkansdotter had worked with her first husband in Kälviä (Kelviå), Finland. After his death, she married former soldier Mickel Larsson. Their only known child, Karen, was born in 1666. The couple started a farm called Alberg in Röring Village, Veteli in the 1670’s. Mickel Larsson was registered as being the master of the Alberg homestead between the years 1676-1786. Karen Mickelsdotter’s husband Jakob Eskilsson Saukko followed Lars Mickelsson as the master of Alberg. They used the last name Alperi or Alberi.
The vicar of Kokkola (Karleby) parish Isak Falander visited the chapel parish of Veteli in 1673. He asked if there was witchcraft practiced among the parishioners. A woman called Sisilia, the wife of Erik Pakkala, then told that she had seen Greta Håkansdotter take the Holy Bread out of her mouth and hide it while having Holy communion last Easter. Greta was taken to the court. She defended herself by explaining that as she had lost ther upper front teeth, she had to close her mouth with the help of her fingers. Greta was ordered to vow ”herself as the 12th” that she was not a witch. Finding 11 persons to wittness for her innocence must not have been easy in a small village. She either managed to do that or the charges were otherwise dropped, for she did not suffer a death sentence.

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Leila Hilja Annikki Syri

Swedish: Syri

Gender:	Female
Birth:	February 23, 1937 Lestijärvi, Finland
Death:	August 10, 2010 (73) Södertälje, Stockholm County, Sweden
Place of Burial:	Södertälje, Stockholm County, Sweden
Immediate Family:	Daughter of Matti Syri and <private> (Lintilä) Wife of <private> Määttä Mother of Maarit Helen Ströberg
DNA Markers:	H95a

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Maija Kreeta Lintilä (Tuikka)

Gender:	Female
Birth:	March 20, 1879 Lestijärvi, Finland
Death:	January 09, 1910 Lestijärvi, Finland
DNA Markers:	H95a

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Maija Kreeta Lintilä (Tuikka)

Gender:	Female
Birth:	March 20, 1879 Lestijärvi, Finland
Death:	January 09, 1910 Lestijärvi, Finland
DNA Markers:	H95a

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Susanna Erkintytär Liedes

Finnish: Liedes, Swedish: Susanna Eriksdotter

Gender:	Female
Birth:	March 20, 1785 Liedes, Halsua, Finland
Death:	March 22, 1858 (73) Liedes, Halsua, Finland
	Daughter of Erkki Matinpoika Liedes and Kaarina Juhontytär Löija
DNA Markers:	H95a

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Further drilling down ( easy because Women do not take the husband surname in Marriage ) ....found Zordan mother wassurname Carlassare from Cogollo del Cengio , Vicenza Province.......her mother was a Panozzo from Tresche Conca ( now known as Roana ) , this Panozzo was Teresa Panozzo born 1820 who married Francesco Lello.......
Lello matches me also in my ydna matches

The Lello family in USA seem to be un-contactable as this is where Lello link me to

further down the rabbit hole

The Italian Tyrolese /Swede match is via surname Holler, through Gruber ..............this line went through to the Panz family of 1775 from Liebenau, Austria


The Kournay line ( another mtdna match with H95a via the Dimpfl family) is attached with this Panz line via Nosek family, the earlier line is Grecheler and earlier than this is the Schaeffer line from Klosterneuburg, Austria


So, it seems my south Tyrol via the Swede and the Austria line via Dimpfl seem to be linked

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I wonder if the Panozzo of the tyrolese-italian line is linked with the Panz line ????????????????

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just received another H95a match with myself ..............a swedish site .....all in swedish

using google translate ......the H95a looks like it comes from Denmark

Mathilda Persson Hagen b.1855

had daughter
Anna Sophie Margaretha Petersen (født Hagen)
23. jan. 1898
Sverige



Hagen line?

was Hegen

and in 1814 was Hegg

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it looks like mtdna H95 has split and its origin is Sweden




YF97110 = Denmark/Sweden

YF65228 = Sweden/Finland

JQ703248 = Sweden

MF497497 = Finland

HQ593807 = Italy ....Belluno Veneto

JX153025 = Italy .....Pavia Lombardy

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more H95a .............Austrian sample is from Carinthia in Austria


her austrian flag does not match her Myhertiage family tree

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more H95a .............Austrian sample is from Carinthia in Austria

her austrian flag does not match her Myhertiage family tree

The Austrian flag seems to be linked to a surname Persson .........
the only line previous to this Persson is with a Marke surname from Niederösterreich, Österreich ....................who married a Gruber from the same place
Interesting is I have another H95a match with a Swede who ancestors pre 1919 was in Bolzano ( south Tyrol ) their maiden surname was Holler and before this Gruber

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it looks like mtdna H95 has split and its origin is Sweden

YF97110 = Denmark/Sweden
YF65228 = Sweden/Finland
JQ703248 = Sweden
MF497497 = Finland
HQ593807 = Italy ....Belluno Veneto
JX153025 = Italy .....Pavia Lombardy

correction on my part ........YF97110 is not from Sweden or Denmark, but is a Nebula tested Austrian women who lives in Italy.

Interesting how Yfull accept Nebula tested samples and Ftdna does not

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kit # 395959 Madalena CANDERAN, b.1805 Italy PN Italy H95a

Maddalena CANDERAN
Born in 1805
Deceased 11 July 1877 - Tramonti di Sopra, Frioul Venetie Julienne, ITALIE, aged 71 years old


Her mother is Cecilia Canderan and father Antonio Canderan...........madalena married Giovanni Cassan , his father was Domenico Cassan and mother Domenica Canderan......

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Found 2 lines for Cecilia Canderan from post # 49 ...............so more checks need to be done

either

Beatrice Zatti .............circa 1740


or


Barbara Vallar ..............circa 1750