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Thread: H95a - Alpine Italian marker ?

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    Another H95a match .........
    Surname Zech ..........initial J
    could be from ..............Zecchin e decisamente veneto, Zecchini è tipico della zona che comprende Emilia e Romagna, o basso Veneto e Lombardia,
    This match is in Swabia Germany and also into Alsace France

    or maybe from

    Buja, Udine, Italy
    Period : 1601 - 1716
    NOTE Questo indice fu fatto dalle fotografie dei registri parrocchiali di Buia (Battesimi) .
    Fathers mtdna ...... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ...... K1a4p
    Mothers line ..... R1b-S8172
    Grandmother paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
    Wife paternal line ..... R1a-PF6155

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    Another H95a match .........
    Surname Zech ..........initial J
    could be from ..............Zecchin e decisamente veneto, Zecchini è tipico della zona che comprende Emilia e Romagna, o basso Veneto e Lombardia,
    This match is in Swabia Germany and also into Alsace France

    or maybe from

    Buja, Udine, Italy
    Period : 1601 - 1716
    NOTE Questo indice fu fatto dalle fotografie dei registri parrocchiali di Buia (Battesimi) .

    Date 03/11/1641
    Last Name ZECH
    First Name Domenica
    Father's First Name Daniele
    Mother's Last Name Appolonia

    seems like a different branch

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    kit # 395959 Madalena CANDERAN, b.1805 Italy PN Italy H95a

    Maddalena CANDERAN
    Born in 1805
    Deceased 11 July 1877 - Tramonti di Sopra, Frioul Venetie Julienne, ITALIE, aged 71 years old


    Her mother is Cecilia Canderan and father Antonio Canderan...........madalena married Giovanni Cassan , his father was Domenico Cassan and mother Domenica Canderan......



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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    kit # 395959 Madalena CANDERAN, b.1805 Italy PN Italy H95a
    Maddalena CANDERAN
    Born in 1805
    Deceased 11 July 1877 - Tramonti di Sopra, Frioul Venetie Julienne, ITALIE, aged 71 years old
    Her mother is Cecilia Canderan and father Antonio Canderan...........madalena married Giovanni Cassan , his father was Domenico Cassan and mother Domenica Canderan......
    There is another Maddalena born same year.

    Correct via BDM , records for the H95a Maddalena ia....father, Natale Canderan and mother is Lucia Zatti .........................Luci father is Pietro and married 2 women in his life ( so unsure on Lucia birth day ) a Del Zotto and a Biason.

    also, this Madalena married Giobatta Canderan.

    Madalena had 2 children..............Albino and Elena Maddalena

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    new Yfull split


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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    There is another Maddalena born same year.
    Correct via BDM , records for the H95a Maddalena ia....father, Natale Canderan and mother is Lucia Zatti .........................Luci father is Pietro and married 2 women in his life ( so unsure on Lucia birth day ) a Del Zotto and a Biason.
    also, this Madalena married Giobatta Canderan.
    Madalena had 2 children..............Albino and Elena Maddalena

    Finally found the BDM .............major annoyance

    father was Natale.................mother Lucia Diotto 1790-1883 ..............mother of Lucia was Anna Codini b. 1775 from Codroipo, Udine, Friuli-Venezia Giulia, Italia

    Lucia also had a son , Alvise ( luigi ) b. 1807

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    2 more North-Italian H95a ................strange that they match Canderan as exact matches.......but do not appear for me .....(what is ftdna doing ?)


    De Zardo line is from a woman
    surname Fioretta Giacomelli from Calaizo di cadore, Belluno, veneto, Italy b.1870


    and

    Mathilda De Cecco b. 1903-1930 USA
    Carina ( correct is Carolina ) Stellon 1883-1972 Fanna, Pordenone, Friuli, Italy
    her mother Matilde Stellon 1854-1887 Fanna, Pordenone, Friuli, Italy
    her mother Margheita De ( Di )Cecco 1817- ? Fanna, Pordenone, Friuli, Italy
    to her mother Elisabetta Zambon circa 1780 - ? Fanna, Pordenone, Friuli, Italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    Finally found the BDM .............major annoyance
    father was Natale.................mother Lucia Diotto 1790-1883 ..............mother of Lucia was Anna Codini b. 1775 from Codroipo, Udine, Friuli-Venezia Giulia, Italia

    Lucia also had a son , Alvise ( luigi ) b. 1807

    Correct surname is Deotto

    https://www.cognomix.it/mappe-dei-co...taliani/DEOTTO



    Lucia had another son named Luigi b. 1805-1811


    strange ......had a Luigi 1805 and a Alvise 1807 ......................Alvise is the Venetian form of Luigi .....................

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    Another H95a
    from

    Verzegnis, Tolmezzo, Friuli, Italy

    Lucina Zanutel b. 1755


    All these H95a Alpine Italians are either Friuliani or Trentini

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    Feels like this mtDna H95 and H95a ..............is an ancient Rhaetic marker ...........part of Rhaeto-Romance
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Questione_Ladina
    While the areas that now speak Friulian were originally inhabited by speakers of Venetic (likely Italic) and Celtic languages, the areas of Northeastern Italy that now speak Ladin initially spoke a non-Indo-European language called Raetic. Ladin and Romansh originate from the Vulgar Latin spoken by Roman soldiers during the conquests of Raetia.
    How do the Swedes and west Finns have it ??? ...............Scania, Gotland etc ?
    Last edited by torzio; 05-06-22 at 03:33.

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