H95a - Alpine Italian marker ?

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Another H95a match .........
Surname Zech ..........initial J
could be from ..............Zecchin e decisamente veneto, Zecchini è tipico della zona che comprende Emilia e Romagna, o basso Veneto e Lombardia,
This match is in Swabia Germany and also into Alsace France

or maybe from

Buja, Udine, Italy
Period : 1601 - 1716
NOTE Questo indice fu fatto dalle fotografie dei registri parrocchiali di Buia (Battesimi) .

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Another H95a match .........
Surname Zech ..........initial J
could be from ..............Zecchin e decisamente veneto, Zecchini è tipico della zona che comprende Emilia e Romagna, o basso Veneto e Lombardia,
This match is in Swabia Germany and also into Alsace France

or maybe from

Buja, Udine, Italy
Period : 1601 - 1716
NOTE Questo indice fu fatto dalle fotografie dei registri parrocchiali di Buia (Battesimi) .

Date 03/11/1641
Last Name ZECH
First Name Domenica
Father's First Name Daniele
Mother's Last Name Appolonia

seems like a different branch

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kit # 395959 Madalena CANDERAN, b.1805 Italy PN Italy H95a

Maddalena CANDERAN
Born in 1805
Deceased 11 July 1877 - Tramonti di Sopra, Frioul Venetie Julienne, ITALIE, aged 71 years old


Her mother is Cecilia Canderan and father Antonio Canderan...........madalena married Giovanni Cassan , his father was Domenico Cassan and mother Domenica Canderan......

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kit # 395959 Madalena CANDERAN, b.1805 Italy PN Italy H95a
Maddalena CANDERAN
Born in 1805
Deceased 11 July 1877 - Tramonti di Sopra, Frioul Venetie Julienne, ITALIE, aged 71 years old
Her mother is Cecilia Canderan and father Antonio Canderan...........madalena married Giovanni Cassan , his father was Domenico Cassan and mother Domenica Canderan......

There is another Maddalena born same year.

Correct via BDM , records for the H95a Maddalena ia....father, Natale Canderan and mother is Lucia Zatti .........................Luci father is Pietro and married 2 women in his life ( so unsure on Lucia birth day ) a Del Zotto and a Biason.

also, this Madalena married Giobatta Canderan.

Madalena had 2 children..............Albino and Elena Maddalena

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new Yfull split

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There is another Maddalena born same year.
Correct via BDM , records for the H95a Maddalena ia....father, Natale Canderan and mother is Lucia Zatti .........................Luci father is Pietro and married 2 women in his life ( so unsure on Lucia birth day ) a Del Zotto and a Biason.
also, this Madalena married Giobatta Canderan.
Madalena had 2 children..............Albino and Elena Maddalena

Finally found the BDM .............major annoyance

father was Natale.................mother Lucia Diotto 1790-1883 ..............mother of Lucia was Anna Codini b. 1775 from Codroipo, Udine, Friuli-Venezia Giulia, Italia

Lucia also had a son , Alvise ( luigi ) b. 1807

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2 more North-Italian H95a ................strange that they match Canderan as exact matches.......but do not appear for me .....(what is ftdna doing ?)


De Zardo line is from a woman
surname Fioretta Giacomelli from Calaizo di cadore, Belluno, veneto, Italy b.1870


and

Mathilda De Cecco b. 1903-1930 USA
Carina ( correct is Carolina ) Stellon 1883-1972 Fanna, Pordenone, Friuli, Italy
her mother Matilde Stellon 1854-1887 Fanna, Pordenone, Friuli, Italy
her mother Margheita De ( Di )Cecco 1817- ? Fanna, Pordenone, Friuli, Italy
to her mother Elisabetta Zambon circa 1780 - ? Fanna, Pordenone, Friuli, Italy

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Finally found the BDM .............major annoyance
father was Natale.................mother Lucia Diotto 1790-1883 ..............mother of Lucia was Anna Codini b. 1775 from Codroipo, Udine, Friuli-Venezia Giulia, Italia

Lucia also had a son , Alvise ( luigi ) b. 1807

Correct surname is Deotto

https://www.cognomix.it/mappe-dei-co...taliani/DEOTTO



Lucia had another son named Luigi b. 1805-1811


strange ......had a Luigi 1805 and a Alvise 1807 ......................Alvise is the Venetian form of Luigi .....................

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Another H95a
from

Verzegnis, Tolmezzo, Friuli, Italy

Lucina Zanutel b. 1755


All these H95a Alpine Italians are either Friuliani or Trentini

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Feels like this mtDna H95 and H95a ..............is an ancient Rhaetic marker ...........part of Rhaeto-Romance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Questione_Ladina
While the areas that now speak Friulian were originally inhabited by speakers of Venetic (likely Italic) and Celtic languages, the areas of Northeastern Italy that now speak Ladin initially spoke a non-Indo-European language called Raetic. Ladin and Romansh originate from the Vulgar Latin spoken by Roman soldiers during the conquests of Raetia.
How do the Swedes and west Finns have it ??? ...............Scania, Gotland etc ?

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Another H95a
from

Verzegnis, Tolmezzo, Friuli, Italy

Lucina Zanutel b. 1755


All these H95a Alpine Italians are either Friuliani or Trentini

Zanutel is erred.............it is Lucina SARADELLO from Ragogna, Friuli

her mother was Maria Pascot

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latest H95a mtdna

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It seems to me H95 is a branch more Northern Italian , is it true or not ?

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It seems to me H95 is a branch more Northern Italian , is it true or not ?

not sure .............there is another in Bolzano in North Italy not placed on map i noticed ..........maybe your correct..............I thought it might be Lombard or Ostrogoth

but IIRC lombards did not bring any women to Italy

[Wâldpykjong]

Yes, most likely