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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    T1a2 -Z19945..Jura
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    H95a1 ..Pannoni

    Ethnic group
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    H95a - Alpine Italian marker ?

    I have recently found this site

    http://haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l12...hv/h/h95/h95a/

    which shows that many H95a come from either Italy or USA ( where did they migrate from ?)

    Of the Italians
    one is my sister
    one surname Calderan is from the Carnian Alps Friuli
    and another is from Trentino region

    My ftdna match is with a "south Swedish " whose ancestors date to 1645 , but is part of the south western Finnish ftdna project ( Kven people ?)


    I do not know where I can retrieve HG ID from
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    I received another match in ftdna for mtdna H95a from Finnish/swedish ...............surname Ströberg

    my matches now are 4 x Italians and 2 x finnish/swedes .................this does not include any from link in post #1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    I received another match in ftdna for mtdna H95a from Finnish/swedish ...............surname Ströberg

    my matches now are 4 x Italians and 2 x finnish/swedes .................this does not include any from link in post #1
    another update, I now have

    4 x italians ( Veneto, Friuli, Trento and the Carnian Alps ) and 3 from finland and sweden ...........latest surname Lassen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    another update, I now have

    4 x italians ( Veneto, Friuli, Trento and the Carnian Alps ) and 3 from finland and sweden ...........latest surname Lassen
    as another H95a appears with surname Saloheimo ( I guess finnish ) then I have changed my mind and think that H95a is now swedish/finnish in origin even though H95 has only been found in "lombard lands" of Italy...Pavia, Bergamo and Sondrio

    My guess is that either the longobards and or the goths/ostrogoths of the baltic sea brought this marker to Alpine Italy/austria

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    as another H95a appears with surname Saloheimo ( I guess finnish ) then I have changed my mind and think that H95a is now swedish/finnish in origin even though H95 has only been found in "lombard lands" of Italy...Pavia, Bergamo and Sondrio

    My guess is that either the longobards and or the goths/ostrogoths of the baltic sea brought this marker to Alpine Italy/austria
    more swedes with H95a


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    another high swedish match arrived today from kivik

    so my high level matches are 80% swedes and 20% north-italian ............apart from veneto the other north -italian comes from Tramonti di Sopra

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    Another mtdna match for me in mtdna ( I only refer to top matches ) First non swede or non italian who matches me

    surname Bihrle from Pfalz, Bavaria, Germany

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    Another H95a match with me
    surname - Maria Michelli .....from Cavazzo Carnico in Friuli Italy
    Her date is early 1800 .......
    .
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    oops
    forgot the other
    surname Nevia Gei - Augsburg Bavaria .............seems like German born of Italian parents from Belluno province, Valle di Cadore

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    @Sile
    Have you seen the Country Report for H95a? ->
    https://www.familytreedna.com/public/mt-dna-haplotree/H

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    @Sile
    Have you seen the Country Report for H95a? ->
    https://www.familytreedna.com/public/mt-dna-haplotree/H
    thanks ....I got on my ftdna 4 swedes.....the report is short of a few
    .
    Agneta Åkesson
    H95a 3/15/2018
    .
    Birgitta Apollonia Lassen
    H95a 5/10/2017
    .
    Maarit Ströberg
    H95a 3/10/2017
    .
    Mrs. Elli Aino Sofia Luomanaho
    Margareta Hokansdotter; b.1630; Ljungby Sweden H95a 3/4/2013
    .
    plus a bavarian
    .
    Plus got contact from Adriano ( the furlano who you know ) whose ancestor is also H95a ........had many chit-chats while I was on beach holidays
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    currently checking on these people for that marker instead of Goth or lombard
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osi_(tribe)

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    I have just received another H95a match via ftdna

    surname Bergstrand from Malmo Sweden

    it would seem that H95a is more Swedish than alpine Italy or Austria

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    I have just received another H95a match via ftdna
    surname Bergstrand from Malmo Sweden
    it would seem that H95a is more Swedish than alpine Italy or Austria
    Received a note from Bergstrand , origin of this person is from Bolzano, South Tyrol in Italy

    I still think this markers origins is Swedish , either Ostrogoth or Longobard
    Father's Mtdna H95a1
    Grandfather Mtdna T2b24
    Great Grandfather Mtdna T1a1e
    GMother paternal side YDna R1b-S8172
    Mother's YDna R1a-Z282

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    The person whose is Bergstrand, has maternal surnames which are more Tyrolese than Italian or swedish

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    The following surnames have H95a mtdna , all living between Fonzaso, Bolzano, Innsbruck and Worgl ...............2 families ..............hard to keep track , when women accept the husbands surname

    Pfannhauser
    Keiblinger
    Schweiger
    Zochling
    Gei
    Micheli

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    Herta joanna Holler , born Bolzano is another H95a.......circa 1920ish

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    I ran the snptracker for h95a mtdna and it states/shows .....east austria
    Then used for fathers T2b17.....it shows central germany rhine river area.....
    Then on my grandfather mtdna T1a1e and it shows south sweden

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    my mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    my mtdna
    Like a lot of others I was thinking in a northern origine (at Chalco ages or around), carried to Italy and South Germany by Germanics tribes; but this map seems saying another story. What is this map based on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOESAN View Post
    Like a lot of others I was thinking in a northern origine (at Chalco ages or around), carried to Italy and South Germany by Germanics tribes; but this map seems saying another story. What is this map based on?
    Data is from ftdna analysis
    http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html
    change symbol to female one to run your mtdna
    The person does answer your queries

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    Spoke yesterday to the owner of my closest match for mtdna H95a

    surname of the oldest in their line is Monte from Ragaogna Friuli circa 1820

    my oldest is 1710 from Maser Veneto

    other italian is surname Holler from Bolzano

    then there is a Bavarian

    and also 4 x swedes

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    some H95a which is related to my line

    Maria Joanna Holler b.1905 Bolzano
    Francesca Gruber b.1874 in Bolzano

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    Anna Griessler 1855 from Bolzano

    Barbara Mayr 1740 from Emms


    looks like its a pure alpine mtdna ............with 3 swedes and 1 swede was from bolzano and married a swede in 1920

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