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[brg12007]

Hello all, I've used some of the mapping calculators posted on here recently and was hoping people had recs for similar analyzing programs? I've used dna.land and wegene, i just checked out ftdna and apparently they dont accept the current ancestry format, so what else is there? I've already exhausted gedmatch.

also, just wanting some professional opinions but, what do i make of my wildly varying ancestry/dnaland/wegene results?

Ancestry:
Italy/Greece: 52%
Eastern Europe: 38%
European Jewish: 2%
Ireland: 2%
Finland/Northwest Russia: 1%
Europe West: 1%
Scandinavia: <1%
Caucasus: 4%

DNA.Land:

West Eurasian 100%	Mediterranean Islander 36%
Northwest European 24%
North Slavic 20%
South/Central European 19%
Ambiguous 1.1%

aaaand Wegene

Europ

• 90.01%European
  
  1. 58.18%Hungarian
  2. 23.96%French
  3. 7.11%Sardinian
  4. 0.75%Ashkenazi
  5. 0.01%Others
  
  

• 8.83%Middle Eastern
  
  1. 4.73%Egyptian
  2. 2.29%Saudi
  3. 1.80%Iranian
  4. 0.00%Others
  
  
  South Asian
  
  1. 0.89%Sindhi
  2. 0%Others
  
  
  Others
  1. 0.26%Others
  
  
  
  
  
  
  So what is the truth?
  
  
  
  
  

[DNZ]

Hi,I want to share some of my results with you.I can't find so much Bulgarian and Macedonian results.Maybe,I can help you for your comparisons.My thought,You look a like some of Hungarian,Bulgarian and Bosnian girls too.But same time,You have a native Balkan mixture!That's so normal.Because,Your ancestry are from there.

But,other way!You haven't got so much Caucasian components for an Ancestry and DnaLand.They consider You Mediterranean Islander or Italy-Greece.Actually,Most of them have more Caucasian components than me.

FTDNA My Origins

Eastern Europe:%34
Southern Europe:%21
Finland and Northern Siberia:%3
Asia Minor:%38
East Asian:%3

DnaLAND

West Eurasian 100%
South European 51% Balkan 44%
South/Central European 6.1%
North Slavic 25%
Central Indoeuropean 14%
Central Asian 6% Kalash 2.5%
Mid-Turkic 2.2%
Indo-Iranian 1.3%
Southwestern European 2.1%
Ambiguous 2.1%

[brg12007]

your dnaland results seem so much more fine tuned than mine! it's interesting to see neighbouring results! what surprised me most is that both dnaland and wegene have a Balkan category and yet that didn't show up at all in my results! to my knowledge even my great grandparents are all Macedonian, and they were all shepherds or farmers so I can't see myself having jetsetting ancestors that came from places like Crete, France, or even the UK recently enough for me to have such high percentages, like some of my results suggest!

[Dibran]

your dnaland results seem so much more fine tuned than mine! it's interesting to see neighbouring results! what surprised me most is that both dnaland and wegene have a Balkan category and yet that didn't show up at all in my results! to my knowledge even my great grandparents are all Macedonian, and they were all shepherds or farmers so I can't see myself having jetsetting ancestors that came from places like Crete, France, or even the UK recently enough for me to have such high percentages, like some of my results suggest!

Strangely mine just say Balkan on wegene. 99.6 percent balkan.

DNA.land tells me I'm 95 percent Balkan and 5 percent Sardinian.

23 and me says I'm 94 percent balkan. 3 percent broadly Southern European. .9 percent Italian. .03 Irish and British. .08 middle eastern and .03 Japanese.

I'm doing a test with LivingDNA which tests 20 thousand SNPs on paternal line(like 17000 more than 23andme. Also some 60k more autosomal SNPs.

That one should be more accurate. Though Balkan is not much more detailed for them. It's a little more defined into east and west Balkan. But as more data is available it gets adjusted.

[brg12007]

Dibran, thats wild because your gedmatch results that i've seen here look so much more admixed! Whatever differences there are between macedonians and albanians, most tests must have their balkan category more calibrated towards an albanian population maybe? Because again going back to our gedmatch results, I feel like you and I have pretty similar breakdowns if i remember correctly

[Dibran]

Dibran, thats wild because your gedmatch results that i've seen here look so much more admixed! Whatever differences there are between macedonians and albanians, most tests must have their balkan category more calibrated towards an albanian population maybe? Because again going back to our gedmatch results, I feel like you and I have pretty similar breakdowns if i remember correctly

They were somewhat close if I remember. But Macedonian was always between 10 and 15 for me with regards to distance. We were close on the Bulgarians and Romanian(which could also be Aromani/Vlach).


On the old 23andme it stated the countries I am most alike with genome. Greek came before Albanian, and then Romanian, Montenegrin and Bulgarian. Which all tend to show up next to each other in some order or other between 1 to 6. Sometimes I came closer to Tuscans and Greeks than Albanians.

I calculated my EEF/WHG/ANE.

My results were:

EEF: 78.4
WHG: 12.9
ANE: 8.7

Using the graphs on here, my EEF is in the range Albania. My WHG is in the range of Macedonia and Bulgaria. And my ANE is in the range of Greeks.

These are all roughly what results plot me as. And Me and my father seem to plot closer to northern Greeks and southern Albanians. Interesting considering we are from the northern Ghegs.

[DNZ]

I saw,some Greek scores were %100 Balkan.Balkans=Bulgaria,Albania and Greece for a DnaLand.Mediterranean Islander=Levantine+Ashkenazi.The other components like a Northwest European=Probably Germanic.Most of Ancient Celts are scoring some Kalash mixture.Your mixture seem like a Germanic-Slavic mix components.Similar to the Central Europeans and Some Balkanians.Croatians,Hungarians etc.Most of our ancestors were shepherds and farmers.Hungarians(Magyars,Cumans)too.

[DNZ]

We are talking about just a dna company results and their specific classifications.You are right for your doubts.

[DNZ]

North Slavic=Eastern Europe+South Baltic?İs this so easy?

Central Indoeuropean=Caucasian-Baloch,Kalash,Indoiranian.If You have a Levantine admixtures.Caucasian+Levantine.They classify you Mediterranean Islander?

Northwestern European=Irish,British,Germano-Celts,Germanics and Germanic-Slavic mixtured Central Europe.North Atlantic+North Sea.I saw in my Eurogenes K36 results.I haven't got a North Sea mixture.Because of This,Probably They Classify me directly "Balkan".?

Balkan=East Med+West Med+Near East+Atlantic Possible?

Southwestern Europe=Basque,Iberian North Africa,West Med?

Ambigious=East Asia,Siberia for me

South Central European=This is special for Central İtalians.I will find it.:)

Population Amerindian - Arabian 1.78 Armenian 3.21 Basque - Central_African - Central_Euro 1.64 East_African - East_Asian - East_Balkan 5.87 East_Central_Asian - East_Central_Euro 6.79 East_Med 7.21 Eastern_Euro 8.86 Fennoscandian 3.98 French 4.08 Iberian 7.61 Indo-Chinese - Italian 13.69 Malayan - Near_Eastern 8.87 North_African - North_Atlantic 7.03 North_Caucasian 9.60 North_Sea - Northeast_African - Oceanian - Omotic - Pygmy - Siberian 2.20 South_Asian - South_Central_Asian 1.45 South_Chinese - Volga-Ural 3.76 West_African - West_Caucasian 1.65 West_Med 0.72

Mdlp K23b results Said,You are %4 North African.French=North African?

What is the classifications?What is their analysis methods?Maybe,I am talking nonsense.But,It is good to think.I am just asking.I don't know nothing about their methods.

[brg12007]

It's true, I havent delved that deep into their classification methods. It's just interesting to see people from neighbouring countries show balkan ancestry in their results. I'm only able to date my macedonian ancestry back to my great grandparents, but i'm just surprised that out of all 8 of my great grandparents, born in villages/cities that are still within the countries current borders, not one shows any balkan ancestry when thats an category? When I meant my family were all shepherds I just meant, the villages where my family came from are fairly remote settlements, very rural, and based on the age of the churches (and mosques) have been there for at least a 1000 years. my point being, these weren't nomads, the roots, on my mother's side at least (my dad is the wildcard since he's from Bitola) people didnt get out and go elsewhere very often. i guess thats why estimates of being at least 1/3 north western european comes as a surprise to me! i cudno mije nic ne sum balkanski!

Or I might be misunderstanding you DNZ, are you saying that my results are just in their own rearranged way telling me that I am from the balkans, and theres just some kind of shift based on each calculator?

I go back and forth between thinking they all might be to some degree, right, or that they are just a cool party trick that at best maybe gets it almost right.

[DNZ]

Classification methods can give us correct results,too.But,This programs have their operation modes.Postavete se na moe myasto!Balkanski?E ili Bulgarski Turtsi?However,Dibran talking about the another truth.We had Aromanian(Vlach) communities.They have a big effect for this results,too.But,Your mixture looking different.I will search more Balkan results and I will share.

[brg12007]

za mene da bidi balkanski ili bulgarski-turtsi? Mnogu blizo sum do bugarski I rumonci lujdji, mozi sum vlach!

[DNZ]

Eurogenes K13

Bulgarian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.45
2 North_Atlantic 23.7
3 West_Med 18.17
4 East_Med 15.27
5 West_Asian 13.17
6 Red_Sea 3.07
7 Siberian 1.48
8 Oceanian 0.67

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.46
2 Bulgarian 4.95
3 Serbian 5.64
4 Moldavian 10.2
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.38
6 Hungarian 13.08
7 Croatian 13.31
8 Austrian 15.42
9 North_Italian 16.22
10 Tuscan 16.7
11 East_German 17.29
12 Italian_Abruzzo 17.8
13 Central_Greek 18.75
14 West_German 19.14
15 French 19.46
16 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.55
17 West_Sicilian 19.68
18 East_Sicilian 20.11
19 South_Polish 20.49
20 South_Dutch 20.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64% Moldavian + 36% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.45
2 95.3% Romanian + 4.7% Kabardin @ 3.03
3 96% Romanian + 4% Ossetian @ 3.07
4 52.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 47.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.08
5 95.7% Romanian + 4.3% Balkar @ 3.08
6 96% Romanian + 4% North_Ossetian @ 3.08
7 95.8% Romanian + 4.2% Chechen @ 3.12
8 95.3% Romanian + 4.7% Nogay @ 3.12
9 70.2% Moldavian + 29.8% South_Italian @ 3.14
10 65.6% Moldavian + 34.4% Central_Greek @ 3.15
11 96.2% Romanian + 3.8% Adygei @ 3.15
12 96.3% Romanian + 3.7% Tabassaran @ 3.19
13 96.5% Romanian + 3.5% Lezgin @ 3.22
14 97.7% Romanian + 2.3% Balochi @ 3.22
15 97.1% Romanian + 2.9% Georgian @ 3.23
16 97.8% Romanian + 2.2% Brahui @ 3.23
17 96.3% Romanian + 3.7% Kumyk @ 3.24
18 96.7% Romanian + 3.3% Tadjik @ 3.24
19 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% Abhkasian @ 3.24
20 90.1% Serbian + 9.9% Georgian @ 3.24

Bulgarian Turk(Me)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24
2 East_Med 20.15
3 North_Atlantic 17.96
4 West_Asian 15.85
5 West_Med 13.09
6 Siberian 4.66
7 Red_Sea 2.49
8 Northeast_African 1.29
9 South_Asian 0.51

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 7.95
2 Romanian 8.98
3 Serbian 11.92
4 Greek_Thessaly 12.29
5 Moldavian 14.8
6 Central_Greek 17.16
7 Italian_Abruzzo 17.55
8 Croatian 18.28
9 East_Sicilian 18.44
10 Hungarian 18.59
11 Ashkenazi 19.52
12 Tuscan 19.66
13 West_Sicilian 19.86
14 South_Italian 21.52
15 North_Italian 21.68
16 Tatar 22.07
17 Austrian 22.13
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 23.47
19 East_German 23.86
20 South_Polish 24.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.2% Kargopol_Russian + 49.8% Cyprian @ 4.65
2 70.4% Moldavian + 29.6% Assyrian @ 4.66
3 71.2% Moldavian + 28.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.72
4 71.5% Moldavian + 28.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.73
5 79.8% Bulgarian + 20.2% Nogay @ 4.81
6 64% Moldavian + 36% Turkish @ 4.82
7 64.1% Central_Greek + 35.9% Erzya @ 4.83
8 58.5% Croatian + 41.5% Turkish @ 4.88
9 53.4% Cyprian + 46.6% East_Finnish @ 4.89
10 53% Cyprian + 47% Finnish @ 4.91
11 83.4% Bulgarian + 16.6% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.92
12 58.4% South_Italian + 41.6% Erzya @ 4.95
13 50.5% Ukrainian + 49.5% Turkish @ 5.01
14 65.5% Croatian + 34.5% Assyrian @ 5.06
15 70.5% Moldavian + 29.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.08
16 71.3% Moldavian + 28.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 5.14
17 68.6% Moldavian + 31.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.15
18 65.2% Central_Greek + 34.8% Chuvash @ 5.16
19 50.8% South_Polish + 49.2% Turkish @ 5.17
20 82.5% Bulgarian + 17.5% Turkmen @ 5.21

[DNZ]

Another Bulgarian.She is a little bit more Northern Type for an average.You can see in the results %84 Bulgarian %16 Ukrainian.Oh Jewish genes in us.

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	27.53
2	West_Med	21.19
3	North_Atlantic	21.13
4	East_Med	15.97
5	West_Asian	11.07
6	Red_Sea	2.5
7	Oceanian	0.57
8	South_Asian	0.05

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Bulgarian	5.73
2	Romanian	5.82
3	Serbian	7.32
4	Moldavian	9.85
5	Croatian	12.76
6	Greek_Thessaly	13.06
7	Hungarian	14.36
8	Austrian	17.05
9	North_Italian	17.73
10	Tuscan	18.29
11	East_German	18.42
12	Ukrainian_Lviv	18.95
13	Central_Greek	19.83
14	Italian_Abruzzo	19.84
15	South_Polish	20.18
16	Ukrainian	20.2
17	West_Sicilian	20.96
18	East_Sicilian	21.15
19	West_German	21.81
20	French	21.91

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		58.1%	Moldavian	+	41.9%	Greek_Thessaly	@	4.19
2		68.6%	Moldavian	+	31.4%	Central_Greek	@	4.34
3		70.4%	Bulgarian	+	29.6%	Moldavian	@	4.36
4		50.7%	Croatian	+	49.3%	Greek_Thessaly	@	4.43
5		73%	Moldavian	+	27%	South_Italian	@	4.43
6		61.8%	Croatian	+	38.2%	Central_Greek	@	4.44
7		77%	Bulgarian	+	23%	Croatian	@	4.47
8		60%	Greek_Thessaly	+	40%	Ukrainian_Lviv	@	4.51
9		70.2%	Moldavian	+	29.8%	East_Sicilian	@	4.52
10		84%	Bulgarian	+	16%	Ukrainian_Lviv	@	4.52
11		61.6%	Greek_Thessaly	+	38.4%	Ukrainian	@	4.53
12		50.5%	Central_Greek	+	49.5%	Ukrainian	@	4.56
13		85.1%	Bulgarian	+	14.9%	Ukrainian	@	4.57
14		87.4%	Bulgarian	+	12.6%	Polish	@	4.67
15		51.2%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	48.8%	Central_Greek	@	4.69
16		66.7%	Croatian	+	33.3%	South_Italian	@	4.69
17		88.4%	Bulgarian	+	11.6%	Russian_Smolensk	@	4.7
18		77.1%	Moldavian	+	22.9%	Algerian_Jewish	@	4.71
19		90.3%	Bulgarian	+	9.7%	Lithuanian	@	4.71
20		88.7%	Bulgarian	+	11.3%	Estonian_Polish	@	4.72

Bulgarian Turk

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	21.72
2	East_Med	20.99
3	North_Atlantic	16.54
4	West_Asian	16.37
5	West_Med	14.22
6	Siberian	3.98
7	East_Asian	3.28
8	Red_Sea	2.13
9	Amerindian	0.32
10	South_Asian	0.25
11	Oceanian	0.18
12	Northeast_African	0.01

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Bulgarian	8.53
2	Romanian	10.22
3	Greek_Thessaly	10.95
4	Serbian	13.67
5	Central_Greek	15.08
6	Italian_Abruzzo	15.85
7	East_Sicilian	16.55
8	Moldavian	16.98
9	Ashkenazi	17.73
10	West_Sicilian	18.16
11	Tuscan	18.68
12	South_Italian	19.42
13	Croatian	20.55
14	Hungarian	20.83
15	North_Italian	21.19
16	Turkish	23.05
17	Nogay	23.92
18	Tatar	23.96
19	Austrian	24.1
20	Sephardic_Jewish	24.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		75.5%	Bulgarian	+	24.5%	Nogay	@	3.7
2		77.8%	Bulgarian	+	22.2%	Turkmen	@	3.85
3		81%	Bulgarian	+	19%	Afghan_Turkmen	@	4.62
4		82.3%	Bulgarian	+	17.7%	Uzbeki	@	4.68
5		58%	Moldavian	+	42%	Turkish	@	4.73
6		62.1%	Central_Greek	+	37.9%	Tatar	@	4.76
7		84.7%	Bulgarian	+	15.3%	Hazara	@	4.82
8		83.4%	Bulgarian	+	16.6%	Aghan_Hazara	@	4.85
9		69.6%	Central_Greek	+	30.4%	Chuvash	@	4.9
10		53%	Croatian	+	47%	Turkish	@	4.92
11		79%	Bulgarian	+	21%	Azeri	@	4.96
12		78.6%	Bulgarian	+	21.4%	Kumyk	@	4.99
13		82.1%	Bulgarian	+	17.9%	Afghan_Tadjik	@	4.99
14		65.8%	Moldavian	+	34.2%	Assyrian	@	5
15		80.6%	Bulgarian	+	19.4%	Balkar	@	5.05
16		76.8%	Bulgarian	+	23.2%	Turkish	@	5.18
17		54.3%	Turkish	+	45.7%	Ukrainian	@	5.19
18		80.5%	Bulgarian	+	19.5%	Kabardin	@	5.21
19		84.4%	Bulgarian	+	15.6%	Uygur	@	5.21
20		75%	Romanian	+	25%	Turkmen	@	5.24

[DNZ]

Two Greek,One Bulgarian
Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	East_Med	28.48
2	North_Atlantic	20.18
3	West_Med	18.87
4	West_Asian	15.11
5	Baltic	11.88
6	Red_Sea	2.53
7	South_Asian	1.89
8	Amerindian	0.7
9	East_Asian	0.21
10	Oceanian	0.15

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Italian_Abruzzo	4.65
2	Central_Greek	4.92
3	Greek_Thessaly	5.95
4	East_Sicilian	6.38
5	West_Sicilian	7.13
6	South_Italian	8.09
7	Ashkenazi	8.9
8	Tuscan	10.27
9	Bulgarian	13.44
10	Sephardic_Jewish	13.83
11	Italian_Jewish	14.01
12	Algerian_Jewish	14.74
13	Romanian	15.26
14	North_Italian	15.74
15	Tunisian_Jewish	17.94
16	Libyan_Jewish	18.6
17	Serbian	19.45
18	Cyprian	19.75
19	Turkish	20.63
20	Lebanese_Muslim	22.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		90.9%	Central_Greek	+	9.1%	Danish	@	3.17
2		90.5%	Central_Greek	+	9.5%	North_German	@	3.2
3		78.5%	South_Italian	+	21.5%	Hungarian	@	3.22
4		66.8%	South_Italian	+	33.2%	Romanian	@	3.23
5		91.5%	Central_Greek	+	8.5%	Norwegian	@	3.25
6		91.2%	Central_Greek	+	8.8%	North_Dutch	@	3.28
7		91.6%	Central_Greek	+	8.4%	Swedish	@	3.29
8		59.7%	Cyprian	+	40.3%	West_German	@	3.3
9		82.8%	South_Italian	+	17.2%	South_Polish	@	3.3
10		88.8%	Central_Greek	+	11.2%	West_German	@	3.31
11		90.8%	Central_Greek	+	9.2%	Southeast_English	@	3.31
12		91.3%	Central_Greek	+	8.7%	Orcadian	@	3.33
13		60.3%	Italian_Abruzzo	+	39.7%	Greek_Thessaly	@	3.34
14		91.6%	Central_Greek	+	8.4%	West_Scottish	@	3.35
15		91.5%	Central_Greek	+	8.5%	Irish	@	3.35
16		84.1%	South_Italian	+	15.9%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	@	3.38
17		92%	Central_Greek	+	8%	North_Swedish	@	3.39
18		72.3%	South_Italian	+	27.7%	Serbian	@	3.39
19		63.9%	South_Italian	+	36.1%	Bulgarian	@	3.41
20		89.6%	Central_Greek	+	10.4%	South_Dutch	@	3.43

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	East_Med	27.74
2	North_Atlantic	20.54
3	West_Med	19.75
4	West_Asian	14.28
5	Baltic	10.91
6	Red_Sea	4.95
7	South_Asian	0.8
8	Amerindian	0.46
9	Oceanian	0.43
10	Northeast_African	0.14

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Italian_Abruzzo	2.73
2	Central_Greek	3.98
3	East_Sicilian	4.95
4	West_Sicilian	5.29
5	Greek_Thessaly	5.91
6	South_Italian	7.15
7	Ashkenazi	8.53
8	Tuscan	8.8
9	Sephardic_Jewish	12.73
10	Italian_Jewish	13.13
11	Algerian_Jewish	13.78
12	Bulgarian	13.96
13	North_Italian	14.73
14	Romanian	15.64
15	Tunisian_Jewish	16.97
16	Libyan_Jewish	17.58
17	Cyprian	19.6
18	Serbian	19.69
19	Turkish	21.23
20	Lebanese_Muslim	22.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		70.7%	Italian_Abruzzo	+	29.3%	Greek_Thessaly	@	1.31
2		91.4%	Central_Greek	+	8.6%	West_Scottish	@	1.46
3		90.7%	Central_Greek	+	9.3%	Southeast_English	@	1.49
4		91.1%	Central_Greek	+	8.9%	Danish	@	1.52
5		91.3%	Central_Greek	+	8.7%	Irish	@	1.53
6		91.2%	Central_Greek	+	8.8%	Orcadian	@	1.54
7		91.2%	Central_Greek	+	8.8%	North_Dutch	@	1.56
8		91.1%	Central_Greek	+	8.9%	Southwest_English	@	1.56
9		79.8%	South_Italian	+	20.2%	Hungarian	@	1.61
10		88.8%	Central_Greek	+	11.2%	West_German	@	1.61
11		85.5%	South_Italian	+	14.5%	North_Swedish	@	1.61
12		91.7%	Central_Greek	+	8.3%	Norwegian	@	1.63
13		89.3%	Central_Greek	+	10.7%	South_Dutch	@	1.64
14		90.8%	Central_Greek	+	9.2%	North_German	@	1.64
15		87.9%	Central_Greek	+	12.1%	French	@	1.69
16		80.6%	South_Italian	+	19.4%	Austrian	@	1.75
17		91.8%	Central_Greek	+	8.2%	Swedish	@	1.81
18		60.7%	Cyprian	+	39.3%	South_Dutch	@	1.81
19		86.2%	South_Italian	+	13.8%	Southwest_Finnish	@	1.83
20		81.9%	South_Italian	+	18.1%	East_German	@	1.87

Bulgarian
Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	25.21
2	East_Med	20.65
3	North_Atlantic	18.99
4	West_Med	17.87
5	West_Asian	13.32
6	Red_Sea	2.66
7	South_Asian	0.5
8	Amerindian	0.4
9	Oceanian	0.37
10	Siberian	0.03

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Bulgarian	3.09
2	Romanian	5.64
3	Serbian	9.35
4	Greek_Thessaly	9.38
5	Moldavian	13.16
6	Central_Greek	15.78
7	Croatian	16.37
8	Italian_Abruzzo	16.38
9	Tuscan	17.01
10	East_Sicilian	17.21
11	Hungarian	17.27
12	West_Sicilian	18.03
13	North_Italian	18.48
14	Ashkenazi	18.72
15	South_Italian	20.36
16	Austrian	20.42
17	East_German	22.12
18	Ukrainian_Lviv	22.42
19	South_Polish	23.54
20	Ukrainian	23.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		62.6%	Central_Greek	+	37.4%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	@	2.19
2		64.8%	Croatian	+	35.2%	Cyprian	@	2.22
3		69.8%	Moldavian	+	30.2%	Cyprian	@	2.35
4		62.5%	Central_Greek	+	37.5%	Southwest_Russian	@	2.41
5		68.5%	Central_Greek	+	31.5%	Lithuanian	@	2.57
6		95.5%	Bulgarian	+	4.5%	Georgian_Jewish	@	2.6
7		95.8%	Bulgarian	+	4.2%	Iranian	@	2.64
8		95.7%	Bulgarian	+	4.3%	Adygei	@	2.66
9		96.5%	Bulgarian	+	3.5%	Abhkasian	@	2.67
10		96.3%	Bulgarian	+	3.7%	Georgian	@	2.68
11		95.9%	Bulgarian	+	4.1%	Kurdish	@	2.69
12		95.9%	Bulgarian	+	4.1%	Assyrian	@	2.69
13		95.3%	Bulgarian	+	4.7%	Kumyk	@	2.69
14		96.1%	Bulgarian	+	3.9%	Armenian	@	2.71
15		96.2%	Bulgarian	+	3.8%	Kurdish_Jewish	@	2.72
16		95.8%	Bulgarian	+	4.2%	Kabardin	@	2.72
17		96.2%	Bulgarian	+	3.8%	Iranian_Jewish	@	2.72
18		96.1%	Bulgarian	+	3.9%	North_Ossetian	@	2.73
19		56.4%	South_Italian	+	43.6%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	@	2.73
20		64.5%	Central_Greek	+	35.5%	Russian_Smolensk	@	2.75

[DNZ]

Bulgarian
Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	East_Med	24.36
2	North_Atlantic	23.15
3	Baltic	22.68
4	West_Med	14.77
5	West_Asian	9.36
6	Red_Sea	3.03
7	Siberian	0.95
8	East_Asian	0.7
9	Sub-Saharan	0.6
10	Northeast_African	0.41

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Bulgarian	5.6
2	Romanian	6.48
3	Greek_Thessaly	9.04
4	Serbian	9.28
5	Tuscan	14.42
6	Italian_Abruzzo	14.69
7	Central_Greek	15.37
8	Moldavian	15.51
9	West_Sicilian	15.93
10	East_Sicilian	16.24
11	North_Italian	16.33
12	Ashkenazi	16.34
13	Hungarian	16.88
14	Croatian	17.95
15	South_Italian	19.34
16	Austrian	19.65
17	East_German	21.71
18	French	22
19	Portuguese	22.05
20	West_German	22.23

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		60.1%	Ashkenazi	+	39.9%	South_Polish	@	2.34
2		51.1%	Italian_Jewish	+	48.9%	South_Polish	@	2.57
3		50.8%	Ashkenazi	+	49.2%	Hungarian	@	2.81
4		56.6%	Italian_Jewish	+	43.4%	Belorussian	@	2.89
5		59.7%	Italian_Jewish	+	40.3%	Estonian	@	2.99
6		63.5%	Ashkenazi	+	36.5%	Polish	@	3
7		64.7%	Serbian	+	35.3%	Ashkenazi	@	3.01
8		66.4%	Ashkenazi	+	33.6%	Southwest_Finnish	@	3.07
9		79.7%	Serbian	+	20.3%	Lebanese_Druze	@	3.08
10		50.8%	Sephardic_Jewish	+	49.2%	South_Polish	@	3.09
11		68.3%	Ashkenazi	+	31.7%	Estonian	@	3.12
12		54.5%	Italian_Jewish	+	45.5%	Polish	@	3.13
13		54.1%	Italian_Jewish	+	45.9%	Southwest_Russian	@	3.17
14		56%	Italian_Jewish	+	44%	Russian_Smolensk	@	3.18
15		56.4%	Sephardic_Jewish	+	43.6%	Belorussian	@	3.21
16		54.4%	Italian_Jewish	+	45.6%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	@	3.24
17		51.8%	Italian_Jewish	+	48.2%	Ukrainian	@	3.26
18		52.4%	Ashkenazi	+	47.6%	Croatian	@	3.3
19		60.2%	Italian_Jewish	+	39.8%	Lithuanian	@	3.31
20		56.3%	Italian_Jewish	+	43.7%	Estonian_Polish	@	3.31

Romanian
Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	24.7
2	North_Atlantic	22.82
3	West_Med	19.47
4	East_Med	17.61
5	West_Asian	10.73
6	East_Asian	1.8
7	Oceanian	1.1
8	Amerindian	0.77
9	Red_Sea	0.59
10	Siberian	0.4

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Bulgarian	3.6
2	Romanian	3.64
3	Serbian	6.39
4	Moldavian	11.1
5	Greek_Thessaly	11.24
6	Croatian	13.98
7	Hungarian	14.07
8	North_Italian	15.54
9	Tuscan	15.93
10	Austrian	16.62
11	Italian_Abruzzo	17.53
12	Central_Greek	18.09
13	East_German	18.33
14	West_Sicilian	18.77
15	East_Sicilian	19.46
16	French	20.19
17	West_German	20.2
18	Ukrainian_Lviv	20.45
19	Portuguese	20.67
20	Spanish_Galicia	21.2

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		92.1%	Bulgarian	+	7.9%	Southwest_French	@	2.92
2		89.6%	Bulgarian	+	10.4%	East_German	@	2.93
3		94.7%	Bulgarian	+	5.3%	French_Basque	@	2.95
4		89.2%	Bulgarian	+	10.8%	Austrian	@	3.01
5		92.7%	Bulgarian	+	7.3%	Spanish_Cantabria	@	3.06
6		87.8%	Bulgarian	+	12.2%	Croatian	@	3.07
7		93.9%	Bulgarian	+	6.1%	Southwest_English	@	3.07
8		94.8%	Bulgarian	+	5.2%	La_Brana-1	@	3.08
9		85.1%	Bulgarian	+	14.9%	Moldavian	@	3.08
10		94%	Bulgarian	+	6%	Orcadian	@	3.09
11		93.7%	Bulgarian	+	6.3%	Southeast_English	@	3.1
12		94%	Bulgarian	+	6%	Swedish	@	3.1
13		92.2%	Bulgarian	+	7.8%	South_Dutch	@	3.11
14		94%	Bulgarian	+	6%	North_Swedish	@	3.11
15		94.3%	Bulgarian	+	5.7%	Irish	@	3.12
16		88.4%	Bulgarian	+	11.6%	Hungarian	@	3.12
17		91.8%	Bulgarian	+	8.2%	West_German	@	3.13
18		94.4%	Bulgarian	+	5.6%	Norwegian	@	3.13
19		92.3%	Bulgarian	+	7.7%	Ukrainian	@	3.13
20		94.5%	Bulgarian	+	5.5%	West_Scottish	@	3.14

[brg12007]

Interesting, thank you! Out of all of them I think I probably am closest to the Romanian, but I plot more north like that one bulgarian sample you posted.
#

	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	24.96
2	North_Atlantic	22.5
3	East_Med	20.3
4	West_Med	17.36
5	West_Asian	9.62
6	Red_Sea	2.74
7	East_Asian	1.4
8	Siberian	0.99
9	Oceanian	0.14

#

		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		73.6%	Greek_Thessaly	+	26.4%	Belorussian	@	2.09
2		68.4%	Greek_Thessaly	+	31.6%	South_Polish	@	2.16
3		50.7%	South_Italian	+	49.3%	Ukrainian	@	2.17
4		76.2%	Greek_Thessaly	+	23.8%	Estonian	@	2.2
5		56.6%	South_Italian	+	43.4%	Belorussian	@	2.2
6		57.1%	Croatian	+	42.9%	Ashkenazi	@	2.23
7		68.8%	Greek_Thessaly	+	31.2%	Ukrainian	@	2.23
8		54.5%	Ukrainian	+	45.5%	Italian_Jewish	@	2.26
9		95.7%	Bulgarian	+	4.3%	La_Brana-1	@	2.27
10		56.1%	South_Italian	+	43.9%	Estonian_Polish	@	2.28
11		64.6%	Croatian	+	35.4%	Italian_Jewish	@	2.28
12		79.5%	Bulgarian	+	20.5%	Serbian	@	2.29
13		58.3%	West_Sicilian	+	41.7%	Southwest_Russian	@	2.3
14		73.3%	Greek_Thessaly	+	26.7%	Estonian_Polish	@	2.3
15		95.9%	Bulgarian	+	4.1%	East_Finnish	@	2.35
16		95.5%	Bulgarian	+	4.5%	Southwest_Finnish	@	2.35
17		95.8%	Bulgarian	+	4.2%	Finnish	@	2.36
18		58.6%	West_Sicilian	+	41.4%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	@	2.38
19		76.1%	Greek_Thessaly	+	23.9%	Finnish	@	2.39
20		71.7%	Greek_Thessaly	+	28.3%	Polish	@	2.39

Italian Jewish shows up there alot, I know in Bitola there used to be a large Ladino-speaking jewish community, where my father's from. Hmm!

South Asian ancestry (based at a glance off the samples you showed me) seem to suggest some Turkish ancestry? When coupled with a higher West Asian percentage? I wonder if the slightly higher East Asian in my k13 is suggestive of that as well, or maybe Aromanian?

Thank you for posting these results though! I have always felt like an outlier and not very representative of a "Macedonian" or even a "Southern European" person just because many of my relations are shorter than me, it's nice to see I fit in more than I thought! :)


Also, how does Red Sea differ from West Asian or East Med?

[DNZ]

Hi,I bought Y-dna test for my maternal side.And two autosomal test for my family.We know something about our mixture.If we want to more information,This is what we can do.The other ways are estimate:).

[Dibran]

Hey Bro,

I forgot to ask. What is your Paternal Haplogroup? out of curiosity.

My Ydna is R-M417 currently. Doing a deeper test with livingDNA. May do FTdna eventually.

My MtDna is H11a.

[brg12007]

Hey Dibran, not sure if you're asking me or DNZ, I never got a ydna or mtdna test done, just the autosomal so I dont think I'm able to find out which haplogroups I belong to. Did you end up getting your results with livingDNA yet? When you do post them here so we can see!

[DNZ]

Hi Dibran,If you are asking me,my confirmed y-dna haplogroup is I2a2 North Dinaric or I-A1221(for snp results).I also did y-dna test for my maternal side too.Maternal side is R-M269(R1b)Waiting snp results.