Genetic source of Unetice Culture.

[LeBrok]

I've been running new kits (DNA), I got my hands on recently, through HarappaWorld admixture and started to notice some patterns. (Maybe real ones. ;)
After quick calculations I found fairly good match for ancestral source of Unetice Culture. Have a look:

I mixed Hungarian Late Neolithic Farmer with also Late Neolithic Yamnaya. Actually, the Yamnaya guy was an outlier found in Yamnaya, genetically looking much different than typical Yamnayan. To me he looks more like pure or almost pure hunter-gatherer, and probably will match recently found hunter gatherers of Latvia and Ukraine. It hard to be sure though, as they don't have kits in GedMatch yet. If this Yamnaya outlier have some farmer admixed in it, it would have been from EEF source. His closest match, from existing GedMatch kits, is Estonian CW, who had some EEF.

In short, Unetice people, could be composed from Late Neolithic "Hungarian" Farmer and Outlier Hunter Gatherer from Samara, but most likely originally from Ukraine/West Yamnaya. (Just being on "vacation" in Samara/East Yamnaya).

First two columns contain Samara outlier and Hungarian farmer runs. Third column, in bold, is for supposed mixed offspring of these two, in proportions of 80% of Samara Outlier and 20% NE7 Farmer. Fourth column shows real Unetice guy genome. It is damn close I must say!

M630274	I0432		F999928	NE7, I-L1228		Mix of R1a h-g with LN Farmer			M453254 RISE154
Samara Poltavka outlier R1a-M417>Z93	2925-2536 BC		Hungary, Apc-Berekalja I	6.4kya					Unetice EBA Poland [1925-1765 BC] K1a4a1 -
Run time	7.79		Run time	6.72		Run time			Run Time	4.06
S-Indian	0		S-Indian	0		S-Indian	-		S-Indian	-
Baloch	14.7		Baloch	0		Baloch	11.76		Baloch	14.46
Caucasian	0		Caucasian	19.04		Caucasian	3.81		Caucasian	4.05
NE-Euro	63.14		NE-Euro	16.69		NE-Euro	53.85		NE-Euro	53.71
SE-Asian	0		SE-Asian	0		SE-Asian	-		SE-Asian	-
Siberian	0		Siberian	0		Siberian	-		Siberian	-
NE-Asian	0		NE-Asian	0		NE-Asian	-		NE-Asian	-
Papuan	0		Papuan	0		Papuan	-		Papuan	-
American	0		American	0		American	-		American	0.96
Beringian	0		Beringian	0		Beringian	-		Beringian	-
Mediterranean	22.15		Mediterranean	56.18		Mediterranean	28.96		Mediterranean	26.58
SW-Asian	0		SW-Asian	7.96		SW-Asian	1.59		SW-Asian	-
San	0		San	0		San	-		San	-
E-African	0		E-African	0		E-African	-		E-African	0.2
Pygmy	0		Pygmy	0		Pygmy	-		Pygmy	-
W-African	0		W-African	0.11		W-African	0.02		W-African	-

[LeBrok]

Similarities of Samara Outlier to Estonia CW. In third column is typical Yamnayan and in 4th typical hunter gatherer from Samara, the EHG.

M913021	Rise00		M630274	I0432		M655536	i0237		M218547	I0124
Estonia CW,	4 kya		Samara Poltavka outlier R1a-M417>Z93	2925-2536 BC		Yamnaya			Samara HG	7.6 kya
Run Time	8.05		Run time	7.79		Run time	10.43		Run time	5.57
S-Indian	0		S-Indian	0		S-Indian	-		S-Indian	-
Baloch	14.27		Baloch	14.7		Baloch	30.11		Baloch	14.33
Caucasian	0		Caucasian	0		Caucasian	5.75		Caucasian	-
NE-Euro	59.09		NE-Euro	63.14		NE-Euro	58.99		NE-Euro	75.62
SE-Asian	0		SE-Asian	0		SE-Asian	-		SE-Asian	-
Siberian	0.8		Siberian	0		Siberian	-		Siberian	-
NE-Asian	0		NE-Asian	0		NE-Asian	-		NE-Asian	-
Papuan	0		Papuan	0		Papuan	-		Papuan	-
American	0		American	0		American	3.58		American	9.62
Beringian	0		Beringian	0		Beringian	1.46		Beringian	0.15
Mediterranean	25.26		Mediterranean	22.15		Mediterranean	-		Mediterranean	-
SW-Asian	0		SW-Asian	0		SW-Asian	-		SW-Asian	-
San	0		San	0		San	-		San	-
E-African	0		E-African	0		E-African	-		E-African	-
Pygmy	0		Pygmy	0		Pygmy	-		Pygmy	-
W-African	0.5		W-African	0		W-African	0.11		W-African	0.2

The difference between Samara Outlier and Estonia CW is lower NE Euro and higher Mediterranean in CW, denoting more admixture with European Farmer EEF, and very low EEF in SO or complete lack of it. Making it pure (or almost) hunter gatherer.

The difference between SO and Yamnaya/Samara HG is that SO has lots of Med admixture making it very WHG without much of EHG mix. It also lacks completely American and Beringian admixtures, a signature of anyone coming from Yamnaya and Steppe.

I think SO will be very close in admixture composition and genetics to newly discovered Latvia HG and Ukrainian HG. I just wonder if they also will have Baloch? True WHG didn't have Baloch. It might be 4th distinct hunter-gatherer of Europe, with company of WHG, SHG and EHG.

[LeBrok]

Here are more similar Unetice samples, and also not too far off few others.

Mix of R1a h-g with LN Farmer			M453254 RISE154			F999948	Rise150		M425717	I0116		M232268	BA		F999956	Rise94		M107790	I0118
			Unetice EBA Poland [1925-1765 BC] K1a4a1 -			Poland, slask	3.75kya		Unetice			IrelandBA Rathlin1			BA Sweden, Vibi	4kya		Germany LN
Run time			Run Time	4.06		Run time	8.44		Run time	6.22		Run time	16.74		Run Time	5.95		Run time	11.67
S-Indian	-		S-Indian	-		S-Indian	-		S-Indian	-		S-Indian	0.97		S-Indian	-		S-Indian	1.28
Baloch	11.76		Baloch	14.46		Baloch	14.65		Baloch	12.21		Baloch	12.89		Baloch	16.53		Baloch	11.84
Caucasian	3.81		Caucasian	4.05		Caucasian	2.73		Caucasian	2.27		Caucasian	2.14		Caucasian	4.23		Caucasian	6.75
NE-Euro	53.85		NE-Euro	53.71		NE-Euro	53.54		NE-Euro	58.33		NE-Euro	52.72		NE-Euro	54.16		NE-Euro	49.39
SE-Asian	-		SE-Asian	-		SE-Asian	-		SE-Asian	-		SE-Asian	-		SE-Asian	-		SE-Asian	-
Siberian	-		Siberian	-		Siberian	-		Siberian	-		Siberian	0.96		Siberian	-		Siberian	-
NE-Asian	-		NE-Asian	-		NE-Asian	-		NE-Asian	-		NE-Asian	-		NE-Asian	-		NE-Asian	-
Papuan	-		Papuan	-		Papuan	0.48		Papuan	-		Papuan	-		Papuan	-		Papuan	-
American	-		American	0.96		American	0.22		American	0.88		American	1.14		American	-		American	-
Beringian	-		Beringian	-		Beringian	0.49		Beringian	-		Beringian	-		Beringian	-		Beringian	-
Mediterranean	28.96		Mediterranean	26.58		Mediterranean	27.12		Mediterranean	26.25		Mediterranean	26.58		Mediterranean	24.72		Mediterranean	30.33
SW-Asian	1.59		SW-Asian	-		SW-Asian	-		SW-Asian	-		SW-Asian	-		SW-Asian	-		SW-Asian	-
San	-		San	-		San	-		San	-		San	-		San	-		San	-
E-African	-		E-African	0.2		E-African	0.34		E-African	-		E-African	-		E-African	-		E-African	-
Pygmy	-		Pygmy	-		Pygmy	-		Pygmy	0.07		Pygmy	0.13		Pygmy	-		Pygmy	-
W-African	0.02		W-African	-		W-African	0.42		W-African	-		W-African	2.45		W-African	0.37		W-African	0.37

[LeBrok]

To be more precise, I think the Samara Outlier, the new hunter gatherer, will be more like Ukrainian and Latvian MN2 and keeping similar place on PCA chart. The Latvian HG were very like typical WHG, and probably will show no Baloch admixture at all.
Can't wait till we have these in GedMatch.

I'm sure the new Ukrainian like HG/Samara Outlier, if it turns to be true ancestor of CW/Unetice people, will still confirm (not negate) Yamanaya/Steppe ancestry in CW and Unetice, as it is quite related to East Yamanyans and Samara HGs.
Also being mostly WHG it might be the best fit for the surge in WHG in Bronze age and post Bronze age European societies.

[bicicleur]

why did you make the 80/20 mix?

[LeBrok]

why did you make the 80/20 mix?

I started from 50/50 and played with percentages till I got a good match at 80/20. I also tried different hunter gatherers with farmer mix. We'll see when we have genomes of Ukrainian HG and Cucuteni or Polish Farmer if they are even better matches than what I used.

[bicicleur]

I started from 50/50 and played with percentages till I got a good match at 80/20. I also tried different hunter gatherers with farmer mix. We'll see when we have genomes of Ukrainian HG and Cucuteni or Polish Farmer if they are even better matches than what I used.

we don't have DNA from late western Yamna yet
they may be a better match
it is obvious that you have to mix with some European neolithic farmer as they were the local population before people from the steppe arrived

the R1a newcomer isn't he similar to Potapovka and Sintashta DNA ?

and isn't Vucedol, Vatya, Gata/Wieslburg, Maros and maybe even Urnfield similar to Unetice ?

[LeBrok]

we don't have DNA from late western Yamna yet
they may be a better match
it is obvious that you have to mix with some European neolithic farmer as they were the local population before people from the steppe arrived

the R1a newcomer isn't he similar to Potapovka and Sintashta DNA ?

Yes, pretty much genetically very related and all R1a Z93. They had ancestry in the same tribe.

M630274	I0432, R1a Z93		M370663	I0419, R1a Z93		M690970	Rise386, Z93		M217196	I0430, R1a Z93
Samara Poltavka outlier	2925-2536 BC		Samara, Potapovka	2200-1900 BC		Sintashta	4kya		Srubna	3.5kya
Run time	7.79		Run time	5.76		Run time	3.81		Run time	8.02
S-Indian	-		S-Indian	-		S-Indian	-		S-Indian	-
Baloch	14.7		Baloch	22.13		Baloch	18.5		Baloch	19.86
Caucasian	-		Caucasian	0.82		Caucasian	2.01		Caucasian	2.35
NE-Euro	63.14		NE-Euro	52.93		NE-Euro	57.8		NE-Euro	55.13
SE-Asian	-		SE-Asian	-		SE-Asian	-		SE-Asian	-
Siberian	-		Siberian	-		Siberian	-		Siberian	-
NE-Asian	-		NE-Asian	-		NE-Asian	-		NE-Asian	-
Papuan	-		Papuan	-		Papuan	-		Papuan	-
American	-		American	0.09		American	-		American	0.91
Beringian	-		Beringian	-		Beringian	0.56		Beringian	-
Mediterranean	22.15		Mediterranean	23.77		Mediterranean	19.92		Mediterranean	21.67
SW-Asian	-		SW-Asian	-		SW-Asian	-		SW-Asian	-
San	-		San	-		San	-		San	-
E-African	-		E-African	-		E-African	-		E-African	0.07
Pygmy	-		Pygmy	-		Pygmy	-		Pygmy	-
W-African	-		W-African	0.27		W-African	1.2		W-African	-

and isn't Vucedol, Vatya, Gata/Wieslburg, Maros and maybe even Urnfield similar to Unetice ?

I don't have anyone marked "Vucedol, Vatya, Gata/Wieslburg". Do you have their Rise or I numbers or gedmatch kit number?
Maros from Hungary is more like Bronze Age Hungarians than CW/Unetice

F999933	BR2, J-M67		M681225	BR1		M631469 RISE349			M974598	RISE374 and 373
Hungary, Ludas-Varjú-dűlő,	3.3kya		EBA Hungary			Hungary MBA [2034-1748 BC] T2b3 -			Maros Hungary [1866-1619 BC] T2 G2a-P287>P15>PF3178
Run time	15.13		Run time	10.55		Run time	3.16		Run time	5.26
S-Indian	-		S-Indian	-		S-Indian	-		S-Indian	-
Baloch	3.15		Baloch	-		Baloch	5.64		Baloch	-
Caucasian	14.73		Caucasian	5.45		Caucasian	13.81		Caucasian	18.58
NE-Euro	46.18		NE-Euro	56.15		NE-Euro	38.22		NE-Euro	39.65
SE-Asian	0.2		SE-Asian	0.49		SE-Asian	-		SE-Asian	-
Siberian	-		Siberian	-		Siberian	-		Siberian	-
NE-Asian	-		NE-Asian	-		NE-Asian	-		NE-Asian	-
Papuan	0.18		Papuan	-		Papuan	-		Papuan	-
American	-		American	-		American	-		American	-
Beringian	-		Beringian	-		Beringian	-		Beringian	-
Mediterranean	31.73		Mediterranean	34.48		Mediterranean	34.63		Mediterranean	40.09
SW-Asian	3.33		SW-Asian	3.1		SW-Asian	3.94		SW-Asian	0.98
San	-		San	-		San	-		San	0.17
E-African	-		E-African	-		E-African	-		E-African	-
Pygmy	-		Pygmy	-		Pygmy	-		Pygmy	0.15
W-African	0.48		W-African	0.3		W-African	3.75		W-African	0.39