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    1 Caucasian 29.53
    2 Neolithic 26.83
    3 NorthEastEuropean 21.23
    4 Steppe 17.27
    5 NearEast 2.53
    6 Oceanic 1.16
    7 NorthAfrican 0.93
    8 Arctic 0.41
    9 Australian 0.11

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Montenegrian 2.05
    2 Serbian 2.64
    3 Macedonian 2.74
    4 Romanian 3.08
    5 Romanian 3.5
    6 Bulgarian 3.71
    7 Moldavian 3.92
    8 Bulgarian 4.41
    9 Serbian 4.86
    10 Bosnian 5.06
    11 Croat 5.31
    12 Italian 5.46
    13 Croat 6.16
    14 Swiss 6.41
    15 Romanian 6.52
    16 Gagauz 6.78
    17 Austrian 6.94
    18 Kosovar 7.04
    19 Provencal 8
    20 Slovenian 8.04

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsJ View Post
    But I see members with strong British Isles ancestry as having these ratios. My primary/secondary population percentages seem odd compared to the rest of you guys as well. Any idea what that signifies?
    I strangely remember you scoring high west asian in one of the other tests and in this one you're getting a dash of near east as well as various Southern European/west asiatic groups showing up in your results. Small ancestry from Southern Europe/west Asia is possible, or you're 100 percent what you think you are ancestry wise, just a bit more southern than average.

    I'm no expert, but this is my view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davef View Post
    I strangely remember you scoring high west asian in one of the other tests and in this one you're getting a dash of near east as well as various Southern European/west asiatic groups showing up in your results. Small ancestry from Southern Europe/west Asia is possible, or you're 100 percent what you think you are ancestry wise, just a bit more southern than average.

    I'm no expert, but this is my view.
    Thank you. i am open to anything. Mom and I both have Mongolian spots that persisted into adulthood and I don't know (not even on paper) about 1/4 of my tree. So anything is possible. It's just that I was born in Appalachia which is a very insular community. But people came and went when there was a mining boom and my great grandmother was an orphan so Southern Europe is possible. She is where I get my black hair. I have another great grandmother whose parentage is unknown and she was "native american". From my results, I didn't get her DNA if she was. But I see why everyone thought so from looks. Sorry to ramble. Anything is possible. And don't get me started on non paternal events! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I may be wrong, but I was told that Italian_North in this is the sample from the Piemonte/Lombardia border. Someone should ask the creator of the calculator.

    On most other calculators Italy north is Bergamo.
    I don't know what Italian_North really is, all what I know is that Italian_Bergamo, used in most of the calculators, doesn't represent well the complexity and variability of North Italy. MDLP tools are slightly better than Eurogenes because also other northern Italian samples are taken in consideration.

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    MtDNA haplogroup
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    My MDLP K16 results (from eastern Emilia/Romagna)

    #PopulationPercent
    1 Caucasian 32.08
    2 Neolithic 29.81
    3 Steppe 18.03
    4 North East European 14.15
    5 Near East 5.09
    6 North African 0.85

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Italian 4.48
    2 Kosovar 5.09
    3 Italian 5.76
    4 Greek 6.08
    5 Greek 6.49
    6 Albanian 6.52
    7 Macedonian 6.96
    8 Corsican 7.06
    9 Gagauz 7.21
    10 Italian 7.35
    11 Bulgarian 7.37
    12 Greek 7.41
    13 Romanian 7.77
    14 Italian 7.81
    15 Italian 7.91
    16 Romanian 8.31
    17 Montenegrian 8.46
    18 Bulgarian 9.06
    19 Romanian 9.11
    20 Swiss 9.22

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    mine below ...................father and mother australian born but have north-italian ancestry

    MDLP K16 Modern Oracle results:

    MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4

    Kit M879117

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Neolithic 30.9
    2 Caucasian 27.4
    3 NorthEastEuropean 21.14
    4 Steppe 17.25
    5 NorthAfrican 1.73
    6 NearEast 1.42
    7 Indian 0.15

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Montenegrian 4.92
    2 Serbian 4.92
    3 Italian 5.47
    4 Romanian 5.51
    5 Provencal 5.77
    6 Romanian 5.93
    7 Macedonian 5.94
    8 Swiss 6.06
    9 French 6.18
    10 French 6.46
    11 Moldavian 6.56
    12 German 6.74
    13 Bosnian 6.94
    14 Italian 6.96
    15 Serbian 7.05
    16 Croat 7.15
    17 Bulgarian 7.19
    18 Croat 7.63
    19 Bulgarian 7.72
    20 German 7.76

    test was with 23andme v4
    Father's Mtdna H95a1
    Grandfather Mtdna T2b24
    Great Grandfather Mtdna T1a1e
    GMother paternal side YDna R1b-S8172
    Mother's YDna R1a-Z282

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratt View Post
    I don't know what Italian_North really is, all what I know is that Italian_Bergamo, used in most of the calculators, doesn't represent well the complexity and variability of North Italy. MDLP tools are slightly better than Eurogenes because also other northern Italian samples are taken in consideration.
    Italian Bergamo also represents the italian swiss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcelow View Post
    Is there a way that you could post my results on that PCA?


    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasian 37.35
    2 Neolithic 26.45
    3 Steppe 15.8
    4 NorthEastEuropean 13.68
    5 NearEast 3.9
    6 NorthAfrican 1.41
    7 Indian 0.79
    8 Arctic 0.62


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    Quote Originally Posted by zanipolo View Post
    Italian Bergamo also represents the italian swiss
    i don't think so. Italian Swiss are bit more north-western than Italian Bergamo

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    MtDNA haplogroup
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    Ethnic group
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    Country: Germany



    Population
    Amerindian -
    Ancestor -
    Steppe 17.50
    Indian -
    Arctic 0.33
    Australian -
    Caucasian 27.12
    EastAfrican -
    NorthEastEuropean 20.02
    NearEast 2.52
    Neolithic 32.03
    NorthAfrican 0.37
    Oceanic 0.11
    Siberian -
    SouthEastAsian -
    Subsaharian -

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% German_Germany +50% Italian_Tuscany @ 2.523514


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% German_Germany +25% Greek_Greece +25% Italian_Bergamo @ 2.275624


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Dutch_Netherlands + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Macedonian_Macedonia @ 2.191543
    2 French_France + Italian_Bergamo + Kosovar_Kosovo + Serbian_Serbia @ 2.259655
    3 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Macedonian_Macedonia @ 2.269082
    4 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Dutch_Netherlands + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo @ 2.270628
    5 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Serbian_Serbia @ 2.272066
    6 Greek_Thessaloniki + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 2.273309
    7 German_Germany + German_Germany + Greek_Greece + Italian_Bergamo @ 2.275624
    8 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Montenegrian_Montenegro @ 2.281380
    9 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Tuscany + Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 2.284153
    10 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo @ 2.289203
    11 German_Germany + German_Germany + Greek_Thessaloniki + Italian_Bergamo @ 2.293170
    12 Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Kosovar_Kosovo + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 2.305733
    13 German_Lipsian_(Saxony) + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Macedonian_Macedonia @ 2.314985
    14 French_France + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Tuscany + Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 2.315019
    15 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 2.320942
    16 Dutch_Netherlands + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Kosovar_Kosovo @ 2.323166
    17 German_Germany + German_Germany + Italian_Tuscany + Kosovar_Kosovo @ 2.330178
    18 Albanian_Albania + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 2.330692
    19 Croat_Croatia + German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Tuscany @ 2.333167
    20 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + English_Kent + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo @ 2.335805
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    1 Caucasian 38.59
    2 NearEast 28.58
    3 Neolithic 11.81
    4 EastAfrican 6.84
    5 NorthAfrican 5.08
    6 Steppe 4.83
    7 Indian 2.63
    8 Arctic 0.86
    9 Oceanic 0.78

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 BedouinA (Negev) 6.35
    2 Jew (Yemen) 6.92
    3 Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) 8.61
    4 Palestinian (Israel) 11.48
    5 Egyptian (Kuwait) 11.96
    6 Arab_Israel (Shefa_Amr) 12.49
    7 Egyptian (Mansoura_Cairo) 13.35
    8 Jordanian (Jordanian) 13.91
    9 Samaritan (Israel) 14.11
    10 Syrian (Syria) 14.71
    11 Egyptian (Egypt) 15.01
    12 Arab_Israel (Iqrit) 15.59
    13 Lebanese_Muslim (Lebanon) 16.31
    14 Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) 17.17
    15 Jew (Syria) 17.59
    16 Lebanese (Lebanon) 18.98
    17 Libyan (Libya) 19.07
    18 Iraki (Irak) 19.2
    19 Assyrian (Iran) 19.25
    20 Jew (Kurdish) 19.68

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 63.3% Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) + 36.7% Samaritan (Israel) @ 3.24
    2 65.7% Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) + 34.3% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) @ 3.29
    3 68.1% Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) + 31.9% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) @ 3.47
    4 73.5% Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) + 26.5% Cypriot (Cyprus) @ 3.65
    5 83% Palestinian (Israel) + 17% BedouinB (Negev) @ 3.66
    6 68.9% Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) + 31.1% Jew (Syria) @ 3.77
    7 91.4% Jew (Yemen) + 8.6% Basque (France) @ 3.78
    8 89% Jew (Yemen) + 11% Spanish (Castilla_la_Mancha) @ 3.79
    9 58.4% Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) + 41.6% Palestinian (Israel) @ 3.8
    10 67.3% Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) + 32.7% Lebanese_Muslim (Lebanon) @ 3.81
    11 63.5% Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) + 36.5% Jordanian (Jordanian) @ 3.89
    12 89.6% Jew (Yemen) + 10.4% Spanish (Aragon) @ 3.91
    13 87.4% Jew (Yemen) + 12.6% Provencal (Provence) @ 3.97
    14 83.2% Jew (Yemen) + 16.8% Italian (Abruzzo) @ 3.99
    15 78.6% Jew (Yemen) + 21.4% Jew (Turkey) @ 3.99
    16 89.2% Jew (Yemen) + 10.8% French (France) @ 4.02
    17 88.8% Jew (Yemen) + 11.2% Spanish (Andalucia) @ 4.02
    18 85.9% Jew (Yemen) + 14.1% Italian (Tuscany) @ 4.02
    19 89.3% Jew (Yemen) + 10.7% Irish (Cork_Kerry) @ 4.03
    20 85.9% Jew (Yemen) + 14.1% Romanian (Romania) @ 4.03

    Great, and now my country's intelligence agency would think I'm a spy working for Israel
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    Amerindian -
    Ancestor -
    Steppe 19.38
    Indian -
    Arctic -
    Australian 0.28
    Caucasian 20.86
    EastAfrican 0.72
    NorthEastEuropean 18.30
    NearEast 2.36
    Neolithic 34.21
    NorthAfrican 3.73
    Oceanic 0.17
    Siberian -
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    Subsaharian

    1 Spanish (Spain) 3.17
    2 Spanish (Baleares) 3.83
    3 Provencal (Provence) 4.53
    4 Spanish (Extremadura) 5.03
    5 Portuguese (Portugal) 5.69
    6 Spanish (Galicia) 5.8
    7 Spanish (Cataluna) 5.96
    8 French (EastFrance) 6.4
    9 French (NorthwestFrance) 6.46
    10 Spanish (Murcia) 6.61
    11 French (France) 6.69
    12 Spanish (Andalucia) 6.75
    13 German (Germany) 6.98
    14 Italian (Bergamo) 7.56
    15 Spanish (Castilla_y_Leon) 7.62
    16 Spanish (Valencia) 7.76
    17 Swiss (Switzerland) 8.5
    18 Spanish (Castilla_la_Mancha) 8.57
    19 Corsican (Corsica) 9.08
    20 Italian (Friul) 9.41

    1 56.6% Spanish (Castilla_la_Mancha) + 43.4% Montenegrian (Montenegro) @ 1.61
    2 57.2% Spanish (Castilla_la_Mancha) + 42.8% Serbian (Serbia) @ 1.72
    3 55.1% Spanish (Aragon) + 44.9% Macedonian (Macedonia) @ 1.76
    4 56.6% Spanish (Castilla_la_Mancha) + 43.4% Romanian (Apuseni) @ 1.77
    5 52.8% Spanish (Aragon) + 47.2% Montenegrian (Montenegro) @ 2.01
    6 79.2% Spanish (Baleares) + 20.8% Hungarian (WestUkraine) @ 2.01
    7 52.8% Spanish (Aragon) + 47.2% Romanian (Apuseni) @ 2.05
    8 59.5% Spanish (Aragon) + 40.5% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) @ 2.07
    9 65.4% Spanish (Baleares) + 34.6% French (EastFrance) @ 2.12
    10 59.2% Spanish (Cantabria) + 40.8% Gagauz (Gagauzia) @ 2.15
    11 79.3% Spanish (Baleares) + 20.7% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) @ 2.18
    12 58.1% Spanish (Castilla_la_Mancha) + 41.9% Moldavian (Molodva) @ 2.19
    13 61.4% Romanian (Gorj) + 38.6% French (SouthFrance) @ 2.2
    14 79.6% Spanish (Baleares) + 20.4% Dutch (Netherlands) @ 2.22
    15 68% Spanish (Baleares) + 32% German (Germany) @ 2.22
    16 82.7% Spanish (Baleares) + 17.3% Pole (EastPoland) @ 2.23
    17 77% Spanish (Baleares) + 23% Scottish (Dumfries_Galloway) @ 2.23
    18 86.1% Spanish (Baleares) + 13.9% Cossack (Kuban) @ 2.25
    19 71.1% Provencal (Provence) + 28.9% Spanish (Aragon) @ 2.25
    20 75.1% Spanish (Baleares) + 24.9% Welsh (Wales) @ 2.27

    Hmm how interesting but yes i am Spanish. However I score higher with German then Italian lol

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Neolithic 29.09
    2 NorthEastEuropean 27.18
    3 Steppe 23.58
    4 Caucasian 18.22
    5 Indian 1.93

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) 1.97
    2 Scottish (Highlands) 2.36
    3 Scottish (Dumfries_Galloway) 2.52
    4 Irish (Connacht) 2.53
    5 English (England) 2.64
    6 Irish (Munster) 2.68
    7 Scottish (Fife) 2.74
    8 Scottish (Grampian) 2.81
    9 Irish (Ulster) 2.83
    10 English (Cornwall) 2.86
    11 French (WestFrance) 2.87
    12 Irish (Leinster) 2.92
    13 Irish (Cork_Kerry) 2.93
    14 Scottish (Borders) 2.96
    15 English (Kent) 3.21
    16 Dutch (Netherlands) 3.64
    17 Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) 4.41
    18 Scottish (Argyll_bute) 4.46
    19 Welsh (Wales) 4.95
    20 German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) 5.16

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 86.8% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 13.2% German (Germany) @ 1.79
    2 57.3% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 42.7% German (Germany) @ 1.86
    3 71.5% English (Kent) + 28.5% Pole (EastPoland) @ 1.86
    4 82% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 18% English (Kent) @ 1.88
    5 91.8% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 8.2% French (France) @ 1.9
    6 97.2% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 2.8% Italian (Bergamo) @ 1.91
    7 57% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 43% German (Germany) @ 1.91
    8 59.4% English (Cornwall) + 40.6% Dutch (Netherlands) @ 1.91
    9 98.8% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 1.2% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 1.92
    10 82.1% English (Kent) + 17.9% Cossack (Zaporozhie) @ 1.93
    11 50.5% German (Germany) + 49.5% Icelandic (Iceland) @ 1.94
    12 97.8% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 2.2% Spanish (Baleares) @ 1.94
    13 98.4% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 1.6% Kosovar (Kosovo) @ 1.94
    14 98% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 2% Macedonian (Macedonia) @ 1.94
    15 98.6% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 1.4% Greek (Thessaloniki) @ 1.94
    16 99.5% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 0.5% Turk (Trabzon) @ 1.95
    17 98.7% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 1.3% Albanian (Albania) @ 1.95
    18 97.9% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 2.1% Serbian (Serbia) @ 1.95
    19 86.9% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 13.1% English (England) @ 1.95
    20 65.2% English (Kent) + 34.8% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) @ 1.95

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Dutch_Netherlands +50% English_Kent @ 1.863048


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Dutch_Netherlands +25% English_Kent +25% English_Kent @ 1.863048


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 German_Germany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.771157
    2 Dutch_Netherlands + English_Cornwall + German_Germany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 1.784667
    3 German_Germany + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.788695
    4 English_England + German_Germany + Norwegian_Norwegia + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.827064
    5 German_Germany + Irish_Cork_Kerry + Norwegian_Norwegia + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.827834
    6 Dutch_Netherlands + English_England + English_Kent + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.828939
    7 Dutch_Netherlands + German_Germany + Irish_Ulster + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 1.833052
    8 Dutch_Netherlands + English_Kent + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.837282
    9 English_England + English_Kent + English_Kent + Pole_EastPoland @ 1.838454
    10 English_England + German_Germany + Icelandic_Iceland + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.842378
    11 Dutch_Netherlands + German_Germany + Irish_Cork_Kerry + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 1.845264
    12 English_England + German_Germany + Irish_Cork_Kerry + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 1.846926
    13 English_England + German_Germany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.847516
    14 Dutch_Netherlands + English_Kent + German_Germany + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 1.853884
    15 German_Germany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Scottish_Highlands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.854654
    16 German_Germany + Irish_Munster + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.857291
    17 Dutch_Netherlands + German_Germany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.858533
    18 Dutch_Netherlands + English_Cornwall + German_Germany + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 1.859172
    19 Dutch_Netherlands + Dutch_Netherlands + English_Kent + English_Kent @ 1.863048
    20 English_England + German_Germany + Irish_Connacht + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 1.868226

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexfritz View Post
    Population
    Amerindian -
    Ancestor -
    Steppe 17.50
    Indian -
    Arctic 0.33
    Australian -
    Caucasian 27.12
    EastAfrican -
    NorthEastEuropean 20.02
    NearEast 2.52
    Neolithic 32.03
    NorthAfrican 0.37
    Oceanic 0.11
    Siberian -
    SouthEastAsian -
    Subsaharian -

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% German_Germany +50% Italian_Tuscany @ 2.523514


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% German_Germany +25% Greek_Greece +25% Italian_Bergamo @ 2.275624


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Dutch_Netherlands + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Macedonian_Macedonia @ 2.191543
    2 French_France + Italian_Bergamo + Kosovar_Kosovo + Serbian_Serbia @ 2.259655
    3 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Macedonian_Macedonia @ 2.269082
    4 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Dutch_Netherlands + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo @ 2.270628
    5 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Serbian_Serbia @ 2.272066
    6 Greek_Thessaloniki + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 2.273309
    7 German_Germany + German_Germany + Greek_Greece + Italian_Bergamo @ 2.275624
    8 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Montenegrian_Montenegro @ 2.281380
    9 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Tuscany + Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 2.284153
    10 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo @ 2.289203
    11 German_Germany + German_Germany + Greek_Thessaloniki + Italian_Bergamo @ 2.293170
    12 Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Kosovar_Kosovo + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 2.305733
    13 German_Lipsian_(Saxony) + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Macedonian_Macedonia @ 2.314985
    14 French_France + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Tuscany + Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 2.315019
    15 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 2.320942
    16 Dutch_Netherlands + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Kosovar_Kosovo @ 2.323166
    17 German_Germany + German_Germany + Italian_Tuscany + Kosovar_Kosovo @ 2.330178
    18 Albanian_Albania + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 2.330692
    19 Croat_Croatia + German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Tuscany @ 2.333167
    20 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + English_Kent + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo @ 2.335805
    You left out your list of first approximation populations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IronSide View Post
    My results:

    1 Caucasian 38.59
    2 NearEast 28.58
    3 Neolithic 11.81
    4 EastAfrican 6.84
    5 NorthAfrican 5.08
    6 Steppe 4.83
    7 Indian 2.63
    8 Arctic 0.86
    9 Oceanic 0.78


    1 BedouinA (Negev) 6.35
    2 Jew (Yemen) 6.92
    3 Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) 8.61
    4 Palestinian (Israel) 11.48
    5 Egyptian (Kuwait) 11.96
    6 Arab_Israel 12.49
    7 Egyptian 13.35
    8 Jordanian (Jordanian) 13.91
    9 Samaritan (Israel) 14.11
    10 Syrian (Syria) 14.71
    11 Egyptian (Egypt) 15.01
    12 Arab_Israel (Iqrit) 15.59
    13 Lebanese_Muslim 16.31
    14 Lebanese_Christian 17.17
    15 Jew (Syria) 17.59
    16 Lebanese 18.98
    17 Libyan (Libya) 19.07
    18 Iraki (Irak) 19.2
    19 Assyrian (Iran) 19.25
    20 Jew (Kurdish) 19.68


    1 63.3% Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) + 36.7% Samaritan (Israel) @ 3.24
    2 65.7% Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) + 34.3% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) @ 3.29
    3 68.1% Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) + 31.9% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) @ 3.47
    4 73.5% Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) + 26.5% Cypriot (Cyprus) @ 3.65
    5 83% Palestinian (Israel) + 17% BedouinB (Negev) @ 3.66
    6 68.9% Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) + 31.1% Jew (Syria) @ 3.77
    7 91.4% Jew (Yemen) + 8.6% Basque (France) @ 3.78
    8 89% Jew (Yemen) + 11% Spanish (Castilla_la_Mancha) @ 3.79
    9 58.4% Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) + 41.6% Palestinian (Israel) @ 3.8
    10 67.3% Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) + 32.7% Lebanese_Muslim (Lebanon) @ 3.81
    11 63.5% Saudi (Saudi_Arabia) + 36.5% Jordanian (Jordanian) @ 3.89
    12 89.6% Jew (Yemen) + 10.4% Spanish (Aragon) @ 3.91
    13 87.4% Jew (Yemen) + 12.6% Provencal (Provence) @ 3.97
    14 83.2% Jew (Yemen) + 16.8% Italian (Abruzzo) @ 3.99
    15 78.6% Jew (Yemen) + 21.4% Jew (Turkey) @ 3.99
    16 89.2% Jew (Yemen) + 10.8% French (France) @ 4.02
    17 88.8% Jew (Yemen) + 11.2% Spanish (Andalucia) @ 4.02
    18 85.9% Jew (Yemen) + 14.1% Italian (Tuscany) @ 4.02
    19 89.3% Jew (Yemen) + 10.7% Irish (Cork_Kerry) @ 4.03
    20 85.9% Jew (Yemen) + 14.1% Romanian (Romania) @ 4.03

    Great, and now my country's intelligence agency would think I'm a spy working for Israel
    Why is the pca so vague when it comes to different Jewish groups or other groups?

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    the only program which makes sense of my scottish-irish small percent of admixture

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Neolithic 33.96
    2 Caucasian 26.22
    3 Steppe 20.11
    4 NorthEastEuropean 19.71


    Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
    16 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Italian_Bergamo @ 7.057563
    2 German_Germany @ 7.578290
    3 Provencal_Provence @ 7.603522
    4 French_EastFrance @ 7.919214
    5 French_NorthwestFrance @ 7.920958
    6 Spanish_Baleares @ 8.571188
    7 Spanish_Spain @ 8.742105
    8 Italian_Friul @ 9.110444
    9 Swiss_Switzerland @ 9.475452
    10 Serbian_Serbia @ 9.554219
    11 Montenegrian_Montenegro @ 9.570278
    12 French_France @ 9.840978
    13 Romanian_Apuseni @ 10.012019
    14 Macedonian_Macedonia @ 10.342114
    15 German_SouthGermany @ 10.482681
    16 Romanian_Gorj @ 10.633265
    17 Corsican_Corsica @ 10.827024
    18 Austrian_Austria @ 11.015734
    19 Moldavian_Molodva @ 11.061240
    20 Italian_NorthIitaly @ 11.163098

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% German_Germany +50% Italian_Bergamo @ 3.854144


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% Italian_Bergamo +25% Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.823822


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.823822
    2 German_Germany + German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo @ 3.854144
    3 French_France + German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Tuscany @ 3.911983
    4 Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 3.936932
    5 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + French_SouthFrance + German_Germany + Greek_Thessaloniki @ 3.955353
    6 French_SouthFrance + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Turk_Trabzon @ 3.961394
    7 English_Kent + German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Tuscany @ 3.963444
    8 Lithuanian_Lithuania + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Turk_Trabzon @ 3.968285
    9 French_France + French_France + Greek_Thessaloniki + Italian_Bergamo @ 3.990178
    10 Basque_Spain + Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Macedonian_Macedonia @ 3.993084
    11 Basque_France + Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Macedonian_Macedonia @ 3.999149
    12 Basque_France + Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Bulgarian_Bulgaria @ 4.005780
    13 Basque_Spain + Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Bulgarian_Bulgaria @ 4.009304
    14 German_Germany + German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Tuscany @ 4.010127
    15 French_SouthFrance + French_SouthFrance + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Turk_Trabzon @ 4.014538
    16 Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 4.034843
    17 French_SouthFrance + German_Germany + Greek_Athens + Serbian_Serbia @ 4.046117
    18 Belarusian_Belarus + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Turk_Trabzon @ 4.056403
    19 French_France + German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo @ 4.065544
    20 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + German_Germany + Greek_Thessaloniki + Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 4.068522

    Done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    You left out your list of first approximation populations.
    sure did, pract nullified by distances at least as i understand it oracles;

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Italian_Friul @ 6.095687
    2 Italian_Bergamo @ 6.114897
    3 Montenegrian_Montenegro @ 6.277299
    4 Provencal_Provence @ 6.390657
    5 Serbian_Serbia @ 6.569745
    6 Swiss_Switzerland @ 6.938941
    7 Romanian_Apuseni @ 7.160522
    8 Macedonian_Macedonia @ 7.199160
    9 Romanian_Gorj @ 7.415453
    10 French_EastFrance @ 7.610544
    11 French_NorthwestFrance @ 7.807431
    12 Italian_NorthIitaly @ 8.230334
    13 Corsican_Corsica @ 8.242180
    14 Moldavian_Molodva @ 8.334851
    15 German_Germany @ 8.337207
    16 Bulgarian_Bulgaria @ 8.666207
    17 Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 8.831907
    18 Bosnian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 8.845347
    19 Spanish_Spain @ 8.999481
    20 Croat_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 9.070127

    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1 Provencal (Provence) 5.62
    2 Italian (Bergamo) 5.76
    3 Italian (Friul) 5.84
    4 Montenegrian (Montenegro) 5.87
    5 Serbian (Serbia) 6.17
    6 Swiss (Switzerland) 6.52
    7 Macedonian (Macedonia) 6.6
    8 French (EastFrance) 6.72
    9 Romanian (Apuseni) 6.72
    10 Romanian (Gorj) 6.85
    11 French (NorthwestFrance) 6.86
    12 German (Germany) 7.42
    13 Corsican (Corsica) 7.62
    14 Italian (NorthIitaly) 7.71
    15 Moldavian (Molodva) 7.82
    16 Spanish (Spain) 7.84
    17 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 7.91
    18 Bosnian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 8.33
    19 Kosovar (Kosovo) 8.36
    20 Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 8.36

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 62.1% Italian (Bergamo) + 37.9% Croat (Croatia) @ 2.22
    2 54.2% German (Germany) + 45.8% Italian (Tuscany) @ 2.25
    3 71.4% Italian (Bergamo) + 28.6% Pole (EastPoland) @ 2.3
    4 77.6% Italian (Bergamo) + 22.4% Belarusian (Belarus) @ 2.32
    5 77.3% Italian (Bergamo) + 22.7% Pole (Poland) @ 2.33
    6 54.7% Kosovar (Kosovo) + 45.3% French (France) @ 2.35
    7 68.6% Italian (Bergamo) + 31.4% Hungarian (Hungary) @ 2.37
    8 73.5% Italian (Bergamo) + 26.5% Ukrainian (Ukraine) @ 2.38
    9 70.3% Italian (Bergamo) + 29.7% Slovak (Slovakia) @ 2.4
    10 80.2% Italian (Bergamo) + 19.8% Russians-West (WestRussian) @ 2.4
    11 60.5% Italian (Bergamo) + 39.5% Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) @ 2.43
    12 80.7% Italian (Bergamo) + 19.3% Lithuanian (Lithuania) @ 2.44
    13 67.3% Italian (Bergamo) + 32.7% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) @ 2.46
    14 60.4% Italian (Bergamo) + 39.6% Bosnian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) @ 2.47
    15 75.6% Italian (Bergamo) + 24.4% Ukrainians_north (NorthUkraine) @ 2.48
    16 78.7% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 21.3% Basque (France) @ 2.49
    17 83.7% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 16.3% Basque (Spain) @ 2.5
    18 72.6% Italian (Bergamo) + 27.4% Pole (Wroclaw) @ 2.52
    19 79.9% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 20.1% Spanish (Pais_Vasco) @ 2.52
    20 61.2% Italian (Bergamo) + 38.8% Croat (Bosnia-Herzegovina) @ 2.52

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexfritz View Post
    Population
    Amerindian -
    Ancestor -
    Steppe 17.50
    Indian -
    Arctic 0.33
    Australian -
    Caucasian 27.12
    EastAfrican -
    NorthEastEuropean 20.02
    NearEast 2.52
    Neolithic 32.03
    NorthAfrican 0.37
    Oceanic 0.11
    Siberian -
    SouthEastAsian -
    Subsaharian -

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% German_Germany +50% Italian_Tuscany @ 2.523514


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% German_Germany +25% Greek_Greece +25% Italian_Bergamo @ 2.275624


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Dutch_Netherlands + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Macedonian_Macedonia @ 2.191543
    2 French_France + Italian_Bergamo + Kosovar_Kosovo + Serbian_Serbia @ 2.259655
    3 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Macedonian_Macedonia @ 2.269082
    4 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Dutch_Netherlands + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo @ 2.270628
    5 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Serbian_Serbia @ 2.272066
    6 Greek_Thessaloniki + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 2.273309
    7 German_Germany + German_Germany + Greek_Greece + Italian_Bergamo @ 2.275624
    8 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Montenegrian_Montenegro @ 2.281380
    9 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Tuscany + Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 2.284153
    10 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo @ 2.289203
    11 German_Germany + German_Germany + Greek_Thessaloniki + Italian_Bergamo @ 2.293170
    12 Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Kosovar_Kosovo + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 2.305733
    13 German_Lipsian_(Saxony) + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Macedonian_Macedonia @ 2.314985
    14 French_France + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Tuscany + Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 2.315019
    15 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 2.320942
    16 Dutch_Netherlands + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Kosovar_Kosovo @ 2.323166
    17 German_Germany + German_Germany + Italian_Tuscany + Kosovar_Kosovo @ 2.330178
    18 Albanian_Albania + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 2.330692
    19 Croat_Croatia + German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Tuscany @ 2.333167
    20 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + English_Kent + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo @ 2.335805


    Kinda similar results with mine:

    Population
    Amerindian -
    Ancestor -
    Steppe 17.27
    Indian -
    Arctic 0.41
    Australian 0.11
    Caucasian 29.53
    EastAfrican -
    NorthEastEuropean 21.23
    NearEast 2.53
    Neolithic 26.83
    NorthAfrican 0.93
    Oceanic 1.16
    Siberian -
    SouthEastAsian -
    Subsaharian -



    1
    73.8% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 26.2% German (Germany) @ 1.65
    2 81.5% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 18.5% German (Germany) @ 1.74
    3 84.2% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 15.8% Dutch (Netherlands) @ 1.74
    4 88.9% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 11.1% Norwegian (Norwegia) @ 1.75
    5 89.3% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 10.7% Icelandic (Iceland) @ 1.75
    6 86.2% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 13.8% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) @ 1.75
    7 85% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 15% Scottish (Dumfries_Galloway) @ 1.76
    8 88.7% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 11.3% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 1.78
    9 82.7% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 17.3% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) @ 1.79
    10 85.9% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 14.1% Scottish (Borders) @ 1.8
    11 87.8% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 12.2% Swede (Sweden) @ 1.81
    12 85.8% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 14.2% English (England) @ 1.82
    13 86.1% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 13.9% Irish (Munster) @ 1.82


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Albanian_Albania +50% German_Lipsian_(Saxony) @ 2.029932


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bulgarian_Bulgaria +25% Bulgarian_Bulgaria +25% German_Germany @ 1.564433


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
    1 German_Germany + Greek_Greece + Macedonian_Macedonia + Pole_EastPoland @ 1.479301
    2 German_Germany + Greek_Greece + Macedonian_Macedonia + Pole_WestPoland @ 1.539613
    3 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + German_Germany + Greek_Greece + Hungarian_WestUkraine @ 1.541487
    4 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + German_Germany + Greek_Greece + Pole_EastPoland @ 1.552107
    5 German_Germany + Greek_Greece + Macedonian_Macedonia + Ukrainians_west_WestUkraine @ 1.552351

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexfritz View Post
    sure did, pract nullified by distances at least as i understand it oracles;

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Italian_Friul @ 6.095687
    2 Italian_Bergamo @ 6.114897
    3 Montenegrian_Montenegro @ 6.277299
    4 Provencal_Provence @ 6.390657
    5 Serbian_Serbia @ 6.569745
    6 Swiss_Switzerland @ 6.938941
    7 Romanian_Apuseni @ 7.160522
    8 Macedonian_Macedonia @ 7.199160
    9 Romanian_Gorj @ 7.415453
    10 French_EastFrance @ 7.610544
    11 French_NorthwestFrance @ 7.807431
    12 Italian_NorthIitaly @ 8.230334
    13 Corsican_Corsica @ 8.242180
    14 Moldavian_Molodva @ 8.334851
    15 German_Germany @ 8.337207
    16 Bulgarian_Bulgaria @ 8.666207
    17 Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 8.831907
    18 Bosnian_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 8.845347
    19 Spanish_Spain @ 8.999481
    20 Croat_Bosnia-Herzegovina @ 9.070127

    #
    Population (source) Distance
    1 Provencal (Provence) 5.62
    2 Italian (Bergamo) 5.76
    3 Italian (Friul) 5.84
    4 Montenegrian (Montenegro) 5.87
    5 Serbian (Serbia) 6.17
    6 Swiss (Switzerland) 6.52
    7 Macedonian (Macedonia) 6.6
    8 French (EastFrance) 6.72
    9 Romanian (Apuseni) 6.72
    10 Romanian (Gorj) 6.85
    11 French (NorthwestFrance) 6.86
    12 German (Germany) 7.42
    13 Corsican (Corsica) 7.62
    14 Italian (NorthIitaly) 7.71
    15 Moldavian (Molodva) 7.82
    16 Spanish (Spain) 7.84
    17 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 7.91
    18 Bosnian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 8.33
    19 Kosovar (Kosovo) 8.36
    20 Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 8.36

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 62.1% Italian (Bergamo) + 37.9% Croat (Croatia) @ 2.22
    2 54.2% German (Germany) + 45.8% Italian (Tuscany) @ 2.25
    3 71.4% Italian (Bergamo) + 28.6% Pole (EastPoland) @ 2.3
    4 77.6% Italian (Bergamo) + 22.4% Belarusian (Belarus) @ 2.32
    5 77.3% Italian (Bergamo) + 22.7% Pole (Poland) @ 2.33
    6 54.7% Kosovar (Kosovo) + 45.3% French (France) @ 2.35
    7 68.6% Italian (Bergamo) + 31.4% Hungarian (Hungary) @ 2.37
    8 73.5% Italian (Bergamo) + 26.5% Ukrainian (Ukraine) @ 2.38
    9 70.3% Italian (Bergamo) + 29.7% Slovak (Slovakia) @ 2.4
    10 80.2% Italian (Bergamo) + 19.8% Russians-West (WestRussian) @ 2.4
    11 60.5% Italian (Bergamo) + 39.5% Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) @ 2.43
    12 80.7% Italian (Bergamo) + 19.3% Lithuanian (Lithuania) @ 2.44
    13 67.3% Italian (Bergamo) + 32.7% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) @ 2.46
    14 60.4% Italian (Bergamo) + 39.6% Bosnian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) @ 2.47
    15 75.6% Italian (Bergamo) + 24.4% Ukrainians_north (NorthUkraine) @ 2.48
    16 78.7% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 21.3% Basque (France) @ 2.49
    17 83.7% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 16.3% Basque (Spain) @ 2.5
    18 72.6% Italian (Bergamo) + 27.4% Pole (Wroclaw) @ 2.52
    19 79.9% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 20.1% Spanish (Pais_Vasco) @ 2.52
    20 61.2% Italian (Bergamo) + 38.8% Croat (Bosnia-Herzegovina) @ 2.52
    Sorry, I'm confused. You said your Italian half was Milano or Northern Italy, yes? On another thread I think I said your results were like those of a Friulan, which this validates, except that you're not. :)

    Probably someone from Trieste or Istria might get results like this too.

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    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasian 38.46
    2 Neolithic 26.72
    3 Steppe 15.32
    4 NorthEastEuropean 8.49
    5 NearEast 6.38
    6 NorthAfrican 4.03
    7 Siberian 0.32
    8 Ancestor 0.19
    9 Arctic 0.1

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    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Italian (SouthItaly) 3.52
    2 Italian (Abruzzo) 4.15
    3 Sicilian (Sicily) 4.3
    4 Jew (Ashkenazi) 4.79
    5 Greek (Athens) 5.03
    6 Jew (Ashkenazim) 5.91
    7 Maltese (Malta) 6.1
    8 Greek (Greece) 6.23
    9 Greek (Macedonia) 6.27
    10 Greek (Peloponnes) 6.6
    11 Greek (Greece) 7.05
    12 Albanian (Albania) 7.11
    13 Greek (Thessaloniki) 7.27
    14 Jew (Bulgaria) 7.46
    15 Jew (Ashkenazi) 8.05
    16 Jew (Italian) 8.23
    17 Jew (Turkey) 9.12
    18 Italian (Tuscany) 9.16
    19 Jew (Sephardim) 9.19
    20 Kosovar (Kosovo) 9.43

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 91.1% Italian (Abruzzo) + 8.9% Turk (Trabzon) @ 3.08
    2 92.3% Italian (Abruzzo) + 7.7% Georgian (Tbilisi) @ 3.08
    3 52.1% Spanish (Andalucia) + 47.9% Armenian (Armenia) @ 3.17
    4 91.3% Italian (Abruzzo) + 8.7% Georgian (Megrelia) @ 3.21
    5 91% Italian (Abruzzo) + 9% Abkhazian (Gudauta) @ 3.21
    6 89.8% Italian (Abruzzo) + 10.2% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) @ 3.22
    7 91.3% Italian (Abruzzo) + 8.7% Georgians (Zugdidi) @ 3.3
    8 90.9% Italian (Abruzzo) + 9.1% Georgian (Kakheti) @ 3.31
    9 60.3% Italian (Abruzzo) + 39.7% Greek (Athens) @ 3.31
    10 91.3% Italian (Abruzzo) + 8.7% Armenian (Armenia) @ 3.32
    11 90.9% Italian (Abruzzo) + 9.1% Georgian (Georgia) @ 3.32
    12 69% Italian (SouthItaly) + 31% Italian (Abruzzo) @ 3.34
    13 96.3% Italian (SouthItaly) + 3.7% Chechen (Chechnya) @ 3.36
    14 79.6% Italian (SouthItaly) + 20.4% Greek (Athens) @ 3.39
    15 96.8% Italian (SouthItaly) + 3.2% Adygei (Adygea) @ 3.41
    16 98% Italian (SouthItaly) + 2% Basque (France) @ 3.41
    17 96.7% Italian (SouthItaly) + 3.3% Balkar (Kabardino-Balkaria) @ 3.41
    18 97.2% Italian (SouthItaly) + 2.8% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 3.42
    19 91% Italian (Abruzzo) + 9% Adjar (Adjaria) @ 3.42
    20 86.6% Italian (SouthItaly) + 13.4% Greek (Macedonia) @ 3.42
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    Ancestry MDLP K 16
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasian 35.37
    2 Neolithic 29.04
    3 Steppe 15.9
    4 NorthEastEuropean 14.04
    5 NearEast 4.8
    6 NorthAfrican 0.84

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek (Greece) 3.62
    2 Greek (Thessaloniki) 3.72
    3 Kosovar (Kosovo) 3.81
    4 Albanian (Albania) 3.83
    5 Italian (Tuscany) 4.81
    6 Greek (Peloponnes) 5.06
    7 Italian (Abruzzo) 5.56
    8 Gagauz (Gagauzia) 6.38
    9 Italian (NorthIitaly) 6.68
    10 Greek (Macedonia) 7.07
    11 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 7.31
    12 Macedonian (Macedonia) 7.43
    13 Sicilian (Sicily) 7.82
    14 Italian (SouthItaly) 7.98
    15 Greek (Athens) 8
    16 Corsican (Corsica) 8.47
    17 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 8.5
    18 Romanian (Romania) 8.54
    19 Romanian (Gorj) 8.63
    20 Italian (Friul) 9.25

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 58.3% Greek (Macedonia) + 41.7% Italian (Bergamo) @ 2.5
    2 65.4% Greek (Greece) + 34.6% French (France) @ 2.71
    3 68.7% Greek (Athens) + 31.3% German (Germany) @ 2.72
    4 74.4% Greek (Athens) + 25.6% English (Kent) @ 2.75
    5 80.3% Greek (Greece) + 19.7% Italian (Bergamo) @ 2.83
    6 94.5% Greek (Greece) + 5.5% Basque (France) @ 2.85
    7 92.1% Greek (Greece) + 7.9% Spanish (Aragon) @ 3.03
    8 74.8% Greek (Athens) + 25.2% English (Cornwall) @ 3.06
    9 61.9% Albanian (Albania) + 38.1% Italian (Tuscany) @ 3.09
    10 62.6% Greek (Athens) + 37.4% Provencal (Provence) @ 3.12
    11 94.5% Albanian (Albania) + 5.5% Basque (France) @ 3.13
    12 91.3% Greek (Greece) + 8.7% French (France) @ 3.13
    13 73.9% Greek (Athens) + 26.1% Irish (Connacht) @ 3.13
    14 77.3% Kosovar (Kosovo) + 22.7% Greek (Athens) @ 3.14
    15 68.2% Kosovar (Kosovo) + 31.8% Italian (Abruzzo) @ 3.15
    16 91.6% Greek (Greece) + 8.4% Spanish (Andalucia) @ 3.17
    17 77.2% Italian (Bergamo) + 22.8% Armenian (Armenia) @ 3.18
    18 89.7% Italian (Tuscany) + 10.3% Chechen (Chechnya) @ 3.18
    19 94.8% Greek (Greece) + 5.2% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 3.18
    20 73.7% Greek (Athens) + 26.3% Scottish (Highlands) @ 3.2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Sorry, I'm confused. You said your Italian half was Milano or Northern Italy, yes? On another thread I think I said your results were like those of a Friulan, which this validates, except that you're not. :)

    Probably someone from Trieste or Istria might get results like this too.
    castellanza/parabiago with centers legnano/canegrate in lombardia/po-valley
    as for the rest, presumably; my case the 3pop-approx along with these @good-distances
    2 54.2% German (Germany) + 45.8% Italian (Tuscany) @ 2.25
    13 67.3% Italian (Bergamo) + 32.7% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) @ 2.46

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Neolithic 29.09
    2 NorthEastEuropean 27.18
    3 Steppe 23.58
    4 Caucasian 18.22
    5 Indian 1.93

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) 1.97
    2 Scottish (Highlands) 2.36
    3 Scottish (Dumfries_Galloway) 2.52
    4 Irish (Connacht) 2.53
    5 English (England) 2.64
    6 Irish (Munster) 2.68
    7 Scottish (Fife) 2.74
    8 Scottish (Grampian) 2.81
    9 Irish (Ulster) 2.83
    10 English (Cornwall) 2.86
    11 French (WestFrance) 2.87
    12 Irish (Leinster) 2.92
    13 Irish (Cork_Kerry) 2.93
    14 Scottish (Borders) 2.96
    15 English (Kent) 3.21
    16 Dutch (Netherlands) 3.64
    17 Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) 4.41
    18 Scottish (Argyll_bute) 4.46
    19 Welsh (Wales) 4.95
    20 German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) 5.16

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 86.8% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 13.2% German (Germany) @ 1.79
    2 57.3% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 42.7% German (Germany) @ 1.86
    3 71.5% English (Kent) + 28.5% Pole (EastPoland) @ 1.86
    4 82% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 18% English (Kent) @ 1.88
    5 91.8% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 8.2% French (France) @ 1.9
    6 97.2% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 2.8% Italian (Bergamo) @ 1.91
    7 57% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 43% German (Germany) @ 1.91
    8 59.4% English (Cornwall) + 40.6% Dutch (Netherlands) @ 1.91
    9 98.8% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 1.2% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 1.92
    10 82.1% English (Kent) + 17.9% Cossack (Zaporozhie) @ 1.93
    11 50.5% German (Germany) + 49.5% Icelandic (Iceland) @ 1.94
    12 97.8% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 2.2% Spanish (Baleares) @ 1.94
    13 98.4% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 1.6% Kosovar (Kosovo) @ 1.94
    14 98% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 2% Macedonian (Macedonia) @ 1.94
    15 98.6% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 1.4% Greek (Thessaloniki) @ 1.94
    16 99.5% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 0.5% Turk (Trabzon) @ 1.95
    17 98.7% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 1.3% Albanian (Albania) @ 1.95
    18 97.9% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 2.1% Serbian (Serbia) @ 1.95
    19 86.9% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) + 13.1% English (England) @ 1.95
    20 65.2% English (Kent) + 34.8% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) @ 1.95

    Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
    16 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 2.070924
    2 Scottish_Highlands @ 2.413141
    3 Irish_Connacht @ 2.650253
    4 Scottish_Dumfries_Galloway @ 2.699899
    5 Irish_Munster @ 2.763847
    6 English_England @ 2.810001
    7 Scottish_Fife @ 2.831680
    8 Scottish_Grampian @ 2.944053
    9 French_WestFrance @ 3.040382
    10 Irish_Ulster @ 3.068829
    11 Irish_Cork_Kerry @ 3.116096
    12 Irish_Leinster @ 3.159273
    13 English_Cornwall @ 3.197281
    14 Scottish_Borders @ 3.200844
    15 English_Kent @ 3.565556
    16 Dutch_Netherlands @ 3.938280
    17 Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 4.994287
    18 Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 5.014809
    19 Welsh_Wales @ 5.432254
    20 Swede_Sweden @ 5.650186

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Dutch_Netherlands +50% English_Kent @ 1.863048


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Dutch_Netherlands +25% English_Kent +25% English_Kent @ 1.863048


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 German_Germany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.771157
    2 Dutch_Netherlands + English_Cornwall + German_Germany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 1.784667
    3 German_Germany + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.788695
    4 English_England + German_Germany + Norwegian_Norwegia + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.827064
    5 German_Germany + Irish_Cork_Kerry + Norwegian_Norwegia + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.827834
    6 Dutch_Netherlands + English_England + English_Kent + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.828939
    7 Dutch_Netherlands + German_Germany + Irish_Ulster + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 1.833052
    8 Dutch_Netherlands + English_Kent + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.837282
    9 English_England + English_Kent + English_Kent + Pole_EastPoland @ 1.838454
    10 English_England + German_Germany + Icelandic_Iceland + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.842378
    11 Dutch_Netherlands + German_Germany + Irish_Cork_Kerry + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 1.845264
    12 English_England + German_Germany + Irish_Cork_Kerry + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 1.846926
    13 English_England + German_Germany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.847516
    14 Dutch_Netherlands + English_Kent + German_Germany + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 1.853884
    15 German_Germany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Scottish_Highlands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.854654
    16 German_Germany + Irish_Munster + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.857291
    17 Dutch_Netherlands + German_Germany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.858533
    18 Dutch_Netherlands + English_Cornwall + German_Germany + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 1.859172
    19 Dutch_Netherlands + Dutch_Netherlands + English_Kent + English_Kent @ 1.863048
    20 English_England + German_Germany + Irish_Connacht + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 1.868226

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    Quote Originally Posted by matadworf View Post
    Hi @ Pratt anyway you could plot my results on PCA? Much thanks.
    Ancestry MDLP K 16
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasian 35.37
    2 Neolithic 29.04
    3 Steppe 15.9
    4 NorthEastEuropean 14.04
    5 NearEast 4.8
    6 NorthAfrican 0.84
    Single Population Sharing:
    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek (Greece) 3.62
    2 Greek (Thessaloniki) 3.72
    3 Kosovar (Kosovo) 3.81
    4 Albanian (Albania) 3.83
    5 Italian (Tuscany) 4.81
    6 Greek (Peloponnes) 5.06
    7 Italian (Abruzzo) 5.56
    8 Gagauz (Gagauzia) 6.38
    9 Italian (NorthIitaly) 6.68
    10 Greek (Macedonia) 7.07
    11 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 7.31
    12 Macedonian (Macedonia) 7.43
    13 Sicilian (Sicily) 7.82
    14 Italian (SouthItaly) 7.98
    15 Greek (Athens) 8
    16 Corsican (Corsica) 8.47
    17 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 8.5
    18 Romanian (Romania) 8.54
    19 Romanian (Gorj) 8.63
    20 Italian (Friul) 9.25
    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 58.3% Greek (Macedonia) + 41.7% Italian (Bergamo) @ 2.5
    2 65.4% Greek (Greece) + 34.6% French (France) @ 2.71
    3 68.7% Greek (Athens) + 31.3% German (Germany) @ 2.72
    4 74.4% Greek (Athens) + 25.6% English (Kent) @ 2.75
    5 80.3% Greek (Greece) + 19.7% Italian (Bergamo) @ 2.83
    6 94.5% Greek (Greece) + 5.5% Basque (France) @ 2.85
    7 92.1% Greek (Greece) + 7.9% Spanish (Aragon) @ 3.03
    8 74.8% Greek (Athens) + 25.2% English (Cornwall) @ 3.06
    9 61.9% Albanian (Albania) + 38.1% Italian (Tuscany) @ 3.09
    10 62.6% Greek (Athens) + 37.4% Provencal (Provence) @ 3.12
    11 94.5% Albanian (Albania) + 5.5% Basque (France) @ 3.13
    12 91.3% Greek (Greece) + 8.7% French (France) @ 3.13
    13 73.9% Greek (Athens) + 26.1% Irish (Connacht) @ 3.13
    14 77.3% Kosovar (Kosovo) + 22.7% Greek (Athens) @ 3.14
    15 68.2% Kosovar (Kosovo) + 31.8% Italian (Abruzzo) @ 3.15
    16 91.6% Greek (Greece) + 8.4% Spanish (Andalucia) @ 3.17
    17 77.2% Italian (Bergamo) + 22.8% Armenian (Armenia) @ 3.18
    18 89.7% Italian (Tuscany) + 10.3% Chechen (Chechnya) @ 3.18
    19 94.8% Greek (Greece) + 5.2% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 3.18
    20 73.7% Greek (Athens) + 26.3% Scottish (Highlands) @ 3.2
    I’m sure these are legit but some of the samples seem odd as regional representations. For instance Greek Macedonia vs Greek Thessaloniki (seem pretty far apart) and Greek (Greece) guessing Thessaly? vs Greek Athens.

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    my results: :)
    so in 4 populations i can be modeled as 3/4 abruzzo italian and 1/4 armenian from lebanon
    Admix Results (sorted):

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    1 Caucasian 40.24
    2 Neolithic 23.78
    3 Steppe 13.94
    4 NearEast 8.51
    5 NorthEastEuropean 8.10
    6 NorthAfrican 3.99


    Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
    16 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Jew_Ashkenazi @ 3.413802
    2 Italian_SouthItaly @ 4.769165

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Armenian_Lebanon + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.393507
    2 Armenian_Armenia + Cypriot_Cyprus + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 2.422044
    3 Armenian_Armenia + Jew_Belmonte + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.435998


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