M35 L-117 Z830 - please help me with the results

[Sylwia]

I`ve recently received Y-dna results - predicted haplogroup E-M35 L117 Y2491 . On E-M35 project website administrators suggested that it is exactly : Z830 PF1962 M123 M34 M84 [Cluster I]. Does it necessarily mean it is Ashkenazi ? On E-M35 Project chart it is grouped withy only two people, one of whom is Jewish, and one is not (Caucasus) . Can you help me analyze this results?

[Sylwia]

PANEL 1 (1-12)

Marker	DYS393	DYS390	DYS19**	DYS391	DYS385	DYS426	DYS388	DYS439	DYS389I	DYS392	DYS389II***
Value	15	24	13	11	18-19	11	12	12	13	12	30

PANEL 2 (13-25)

Marker	DYS458	DYS459	DYS455	DYS454	DYS447	DYS437	DYS448	DYS449	DYS464
Value	16	9-9	11	12	26	14	20	33	15-15-17-18

PANEL 3 (26-37)

Marker	DYS460	Y-GATA-H4	YCAII	DYS456	DYS607	DYS576	DYS570	CDY	DYS442	DYS438
Value	11	10	19-19	15	13	17	19	32-36	12	10

[kingjohn]

dear sylwia,
ask here http://community.haplozone.net/
some people there can help you
you should order the z827 snp pack or to do big y full
best regards
adam

[ESpraguer]

I think you've answered your own question. There are non-Jews who are E-M123 (plenty of them, especially in the Levant), so it's not "necessarily Jewish". However, Poland did historically have a large Jewish population, & M123 is not a very common haplo in Poland. So I'd say these factors weigh in favor of it being Jewish in origin. Almost all the indigenous E in Poland is E-V13 (4%). However it is certainly possible that the E-M123 came from the south in Greece or around the Black Sea, or came from Italy or the Caucusus or something. This can't be ruled out at this stage. There has been plenty of gene flow into Eastern Europe from those regions too. It should also be noted that ethnic Poles possess the marker in very small amounts (<.5%). You can do a more penetrative test & find out for certain if your line is essentially an exclusively Jewish one. Or you can compare your DNA to folks online to save yourself a little money. This might give you a pretty good idea regarding the likelihood your Y-DNA comes from a Jewish progenitor. But M123 is not exclusively Jewish in Europeans by any means. Napoleon was E-M123.