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Thread: M35 L-117 Z830 - please help me with the results

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    M35 L-117 Z830 - please help me with the results

    I`ve recently received Y-dna results - predicted haplogroup E-M35 L117 Y2491 . On E-M35 project website administrators suggested that it is exactly : Z830 PF1962 M123 M34 M84 [Cluster I]. Does it necessarily mean it is Ashkenazi ? On E-M35 Project chart it is grouped withy only two people, one of whom is Jewish, and one is not (Caucasus) . Can you help me analyze this results?

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    PANEL 1 (1-12)

    Marker DYS393 DYS390 DYS19** DYS391 DYS385 DYS426 DYS388 DYS439 DYS389I DYS392 DYS389II***
    Value 15 24 13 11 18-19 11 12 12 13 12 30

    PANEL 2 (13-25)

    Marker DYS458 DYS459 DYS455 DYS454 DYS447 DYS437 DYS448 DYS449 DYS464
    Value 16 9-9 11 12 26 14 20 33 15-15-17-18

    PANEL 3 (26-37)

    Marker DYS460 Y-GATA-H4 YCAII DYS456 DYS607 DYS576 DYS570 CDY DYS442 DYS438
    Value 11 10 19-19 15 13 17 19 32-36 12 10

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    I think you've answered your own question. There are non-Jews who are E-M123 (plenty of them, especially in the Levant), so it's not "necessarily Jewish". However, Poland did historically have a large Jewish population, & M123 is not a very common haplo in Poland. So I'd say these factors weigh in favor of it being Jewish in origin. Almost all the indigenous E in Poland is E-V13 (4%). However it is certainly possible that the E-M123 came from the south in Greece or around the Black Sea, or came from Italy or the Caucusus or something. This can't be ruled out at this stage. There has been plenty of gene flow into Eastern Europe from those regions too. It should also be noted that ethnic Poles possess the marker in very small amounts (<.5%). You can do a more penetrative test & find out for certain if your line is essentially an exclusively Jewish one. Or you can compare your DNA to folks online to save yourself a little money. This might give you a pretty good idea regarding the likelihood your Y-DNA comes from a Jewish progenitor. But M123 is not exclusively Jewish in Europeans by any means. Napoleon was E-M123.
    Last edited by ESpraguer; 02-03-17 at 02:17.

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