K13 Highest "Baltic" scores in Eurogenes K13 / K15

[Syky]

Of course they can't be pure "something" as everything in Eurasia and they have some Siberian admixture, just because they live close to it. But at the same time, I think people from Volga-Ural and Northern Dvina areas are the best candidates to be EHG carriers (at least by percentage). Otherwise, as I said before, we put ourselves in an endless recursion, whereas all samples, like Loschbour, La Brana and probably Motala, which intended to be a reference of pure WHG have as much (or just a bit less) EHG as the most EHG admixed region in Europe (Baltic). So it's definitely not Baltic Or I understand the basic logic somehow wrong and pervertedly.

The Eastern Euro-rich peoples (Mordvins, Finns) are also close to EHG on PCA, maybe even closer than Baltics. But in admixture (and some formal stats, for example here - extended data fig.7) they show some tendency to East Eurasian, so they move that way on PCA, whereas Baltics are West Eurasian only. So I think Baltic is West Eurasian and EHG-like rich. The Corded peoples probably moved to the region and mixed with local Latvia_MN population, which was on EHG-WHG line unlike other neolithic Europeans.

 

[Ukko]

LeBrok gave me an infraction but still no clarification on his claim of Siberian tribes invading Finland and Baltics.

 

[Syky]

LeBrok gave me an infraction but still no clarification on his claim of Siberian tribes invading Finland and Baltics.

Probably Uralic speakers...?

 

[Tomenable]

Red is EHG and orange is Steppe? But Steppe was largely EHG as well, so how did they differentiate them? I guess that in Metal Age samples, red shows the excess of EHG admixture over that Steppe-derived EHG:

 

[Syky]

I think Baltic reflects some steppe + extra EHG or Latvia_MN, in other words non-steppe EHG. This is why separate eastern component exists in North European cluster - Northwesterners don't have this "Baltic" extra EHG-like admixture or is much weaker in them. This is also why Baltics share most alleles with MA1 from West Eurasians - they are largely of steppe origin as other North Europeans, but their neolithic admixture is less ENF or Basal Eurasian, but more EHG or maybe something closer to WHG than pure EHG.

 

[50cal]

I'm 60.51% Baltic.

What prize do I get?

 

[Joey37]

View attachment 10438View attachment 10440What say you on this? American, 56.4% British and Irish, 15.8 Broadly Northwest European 23andMe uploaded.

 

[Pan]

Is 19.80% Baltic is K13 high for a Greek like me?


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.56
2 Atlantic 15.15
3 West_Asian 15.08
4 West_Med 13.59
5 Baltic 12.87
6 North_Sea 10.94
7 Eastern_Euro 8.04
8 Red_Sea 1.99

 

[Pan]

Correction (the above was by K15 admixture):

#	Population	Percent
1	East_Med	26.13
2	Baltic	19.8
3	North_Atlantic	19.5
4	West_Med	17.71
5	West_Asian	13.98
6	Oceanian	1.31
7	Red_Sea	1.27
8	Sub-Saharan	0.25
9	Amerindian	0.06

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Greek_Thessaly	5.45
2	Bulgarian	7.08
3	Romanian	9.63
4	Central_Greek	10.44
5	Italian_Abruzzo	11.13
6	East_Sicilian	12.02
7	West_Sicilian	12.92
8	Ashkenazi	13.21
9	Tuscan	13.43
10	Serbian	13.81
11	South_Italian	14.78
12	North_Italian	16.9
13	Moldavian	19.23
14	Italian_Jewish	20
15	Sephardic_Jewish	20.24
16	Algerian_Jewish	20.25
17	Hungarian	21.84
18	Croatian	22.24
19	Tunisian_Jewish	23.61
20	Libyan_Jewish	24.14