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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Most of my contacts with Venetian background are related to TV and get more than 12% (three have less). The F & G % in my list vary from 5.7 (this person has the highest British & I.) to 30%. Your son has the third highest F & G % I've ever seen in a Venetian. Possibly it represents some "Swiss like" ancestry. I don't know.
    We know that Austrians became Austrians from 998AD and where initially Bavarians . We also know Bavarians where the last of the German groups to become German after the fall of the Roman Empire ...............the question seems to me is that who or where or are the Tyrolese ..........clearly they are either alpine Gallic tribes or Raetic tribes.

    Belluno ( where some of your ancestors are from ) and south-tyrol clearly fall into ancient Raetic zones
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    Here is the map of East European admixture. I would need more data from East Germany, Czechia, Austria, Slovenia, Estonia, northern Russia, Moldova, the Volga-Ural region, the Caucasus and Turkey to work out the gradients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    Here is the map of East European admixture. I would need more data from East Germany, Czechia, Austria, Slovenia, Estonia, northern Russia, Moldova, the Volga-Ural region, the Caucasus and Turkey to work out the gradients.

    I think Serbia should have the same color (and percentages) as Croatia and Bosnia-Herzegovina. And does Turkey really have 1-5%?

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    These are results collected by myself. The Italian ones are not included in those already posted, as I know.



    Italy - Piedmont (n=1)

    -- Southern European: 57%
    Italian: 34.1%
    Balkan: 2.0%
    Iberian: 1.6%
    Broadly Southern European: 19.3%
    -- Northwestern European: 33.5%
    French & German: 9.2%
    British & Irish: 4.2 %
    Broadly Northwestern European: 20.1 %
    -- Broadly European: 8.9%
    --Middle Eastern & North African 0.3%
    North African: 0.3%
    - East Asian & Native American
    Broadly East Asian: 0.1%




    Italy - Lombardy (n=4)

    -- Southern European: 71.8%
    Italian: 51.3 %
    Iberian: 3.9 %
    Balkan: 1.3 %
    Sardinian: 0.8%
    Broadly Southern European: 14.5%
    -- Northwestern European: 22.9%
    French & German: 7.1 %
    British & Irish: 2.3%
    Broadly Northwestern European: 13.4 %
    -- Broadly European: 5.2%



    Italy - Tuscany (n=4)

    -- Southern European: 81.9%
    Italian: 63.9 %
    Iberian: 2.5 %
    Balkan: 1.7 %
    Sardinian: 0.2%
    Broadly Southern European: 13.6%
    -- Northwestern European: 13.5%
    French & German: 3.7 %
    British & Irish: 2.1 %
    Broadly Northwestern European: 7.7%
    -- Broadly European: 4.5%
    -- Ashkenazi Jewish: 0.02%


    Italy - South Tyrol (n=1)

    -- Southern European: 20.5%
    Italian: 5.6%
    Iberian: 1.7%
    Sardinian: 1.1%
    Broadly Southern European: 12.1%
    -- Northwestern European: 72%
    French & German: 42.6%
    British & Irish: 5.8%
    Scandinavian: 1.3%
    Broadly Northwestern European: 22.3 %
    -- Broadly European: 7.4%



    Croatia - Dalmatia (n=1)

    -- Southern European: 65.8%
    Balkan: 61%
    Broadly Southern European: 4.8%
    -- Eastern European 23.5%
    -- Broadly Northwestern European: 1.2%
    -- Broadly European: 9.4%



    Sweden (n=1)

    -- Northwestern European: 98.5%
    Scandinavian: 63.7%
    French & German: 4.4%
    British & Irish: 5.7%
    Finnish: 0.9%
    Broadly Northwestern European: 23.8%
    -- Eastern European: 0.3%
    -- Broadly European: 0.9%
    -- East Asian & Native American: 0.2%

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaschalisB View Post
    I think Serbia should have the same color (and percentages) as Croatia and Bosnia-Herzegovina. And does Turkey really have 1-5%?
    According to the 16 Serbian samples shared by Regio X, Serbia has only 9% of Eastern European, against 16-17% for Croatia and Bosnia.

    I only have 5 samples from Turkey, but the average is 1.2% Eastern European.

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    Here is the map of the Iberian admixture. I am sure there must be a gradient somewhere in Southwest Spain, but I'll need more regional data.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    Would you mind posting the percentages of other Irish people with whom you are sharing? No need to mention their names of course.
    I'll go through and have a look. Do you just want the averages?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth60 View Post
    I'll go through and have a look. Do you just want the averages?
    Yes, you can post just the averages.

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    Kosovar 6 people (23&me ancestry composition):

    European 99.8%


    Southern European 98.2%
    Balkan 92.8%
    Italian 1.4%
    Broadly Southern European 4.0%
    Northwestern European 0.6%
    Scandinavian 0.5%
    Broadly Northwestern European 0.1%
    Broadly European 1.0%

    European 99.3%

    Southern European 97.8%
    Balkan 91.5%
    Italian 1.4%
    Broadly Southern European 4.9%
    Eastern European 0.6%
    Northwestern European< 0.1%
    Broadly Northwestern European< 0.1%
    Broadly European0.9%

    European 100.0%

    Southern European 97.6%
    Balkan 92.7%
    Italian 0.3%
    Broadly Southern European 4.6%
    Eastern European 0.6%
    Northwestern European 0.3%
    Broadly Northwestern European 0.3%
    Broadly European 1.4%


    European 99.9%

    Southern European 91.0%
    Balkan 86.8%
    Broadly Southern European4.2%
    Eastern European6.5%
    Northwestern European0.4%
    Broadly Northwestern European0.4%
    Broadly European2.0%



    European100.0%


    Southern European95.9%
    Balkan92.1%
    Italian0.2%
    Broadly Southern European3.5%
    Eastern European2.2%
    Ashkenazi Jewish0.1%
    Broadly European1.7%


    European 99.4%

    Southern European 95.3%
    Balkan 84.4%
    Italian 2.9%
    Broadly Southern European 8.0%
    Eastern European 1.6%
    Northwestern European< 0.1%
    Broadly Northwestern European< 0.1%
    Broadly European2.5

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    I've done a spreadsheet and averaged the % for 43 people that have fully Irish ancestry. When averaged there is very little other than overwhelmingly British & Irish.

    Here is the breakdown.

    Irish = n43

    British & Irish 94.87%
    French & German 0.77%
    Scandinavian 0.30%
    Finnish 0.01%
    Broadly Northwestern European 3.4%

    Iberian 0.00%
    Ashkenazi 0.02%
    Broadly Southern European 0.1%
    Broadly European 0.4%
    Unassigned 0.0%

    I have a spreadsheet with all the percentages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth60 View Post
    I've done a spreadsheet and averaged the % for 43 people that have fully Irish ancestry. When averaged there is very little other than overwhelmingly British & Irish.

    Here is the breakdown.

    Irish = n43

    British & Irish 94.87%
    French & German 0.77%
    Scandinavian 0.30%
    Finnish 0.01%
    Broadly Northwestern European 3.4%

    Iberian 0.00%
    Ashkenazi 0.02%
    Broadly Southern European 0.1%
    Broadly European 0.4%
    Unassigned 0.0%

    I have a spreadsheet with all the percentages.

    Thank you, Elisabeth. That's very helpful. Do you know if there is any significant difference by region? I would think that Ulster probably has more French & German due to the Lowland Scots, while Dublin or Wexford might have more Scandinavian?

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    Sorry I don't have specific regions. I did notice that the person with the lowest British & Irish was from Dublin. I think most of the people I share with are from the more country regions and there are about 3 from Donegal in there but all the people I added had stated that all their grandparents were Irish. There were quite a few with <0.1% Native Amerindian and East Asian and a couple with 0.1% but the people with 0 negated those trace amounts.

    I have the full spreadsheet with all the breakdown. The lady from Dublin the highest amount of French & German with 4.7% and my mother was next with 4.6% and she is from Munster. What is very noticeable is the high amount of British & Irish that people get. The people that I have from Donegal appear to get the highest British and Irish with 98.1% and 98.4%. I'm sure if there was a large study you would find places like Dublin having lower amounts of British & Irish and the northwest having the higher amounts of British & Irish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    Here is a table based on the results I have already received.
    If you get Ashkenazi results could you perhaps inquire as to whether their ancestors were Eastern Ashkenazi or Western, and compare? Would be interesting as I don't think there are any studies on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    Thank you, Elisabeth. That's very helpful. Do you know if there is any significant difference by region? I would think that Ulster probably has more French & German due to the Lowland Scots, while Dublin or Wexford might have more Scandinavian?
    I think the 23andme reference population for British contains Scandinavian, as I'd expect it to be way higher, surely.

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    Share your 23andMe Ancestry Composition

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    Ancestry composition 23andme:

    99.6% European

    Southern European
    89.7%Balkan
    2.4%Italian
    6.3%Broadly Southern European

    Northwestern European
    0.3%Broadly Northwestern European
    0.1% Ashkenazi Jewish
    0.8% Broadly European

    0.4% East Asian & Native American
    East Asian
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    0.4%Broadly East Asian

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToBeOrNotToBe View Post
    I think the 23andme reference population for British contains Scandinavian, as I'd expect it to be way higher, surely.
    Don't be fooled by the labels. Real Scandinavian autosomal DNA includes a mixture of what 23andMe calls Broadly Northwest European, Scandinavian and even a small part of the British & Irish. The Scandinavian peaks in the population at the border of Norway and Sweden. Danes have as much 'Broadly Northwest European' as 'Scandinavian', and so the Anglo-Saxons would have had about 2 or 3 times as much 'Broadly Northwest European' as 'Scandinavian'. That's why there is so much more 'Broadly Northwest European' in Britain today. I have explained what is really behind the misleading 23andMe labels in the map descriptions here. It's odd that the got the South European admixtures to fix pretty well with the labels, but mixed up completely the Northwest European ones.

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    Holy Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich, you and 23andme have outdone yourselves in the updates Congratulations. As with Elizabeth, I apologize also for my ancestry is not specific to a certain population. However I'm curious, why is the admixture "Broadly European" in every European; what ancient civilization was 50%-100% Broadly European? Do you know what country/region the "broadly European" admixture peaks at? :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight View Post
    Holy Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich, you and 23andme have outdone yourselves in the updates Congratulations. As with Elizabeth, I apologize also for my ancestry is not specific to a certain population. However I'm curious, why is the admixture "Broadly European" in every European; what ancient civilization was 50%-100% Broadly European? Do you know what country/region the "broadly European" admixture peaks at? :)
    Broadly European might represent shared Paleolithic or Mesolithic European ancestry. It is even found a bit in North Africa and the northern Middle East.

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    94.1 European
    71.6 Italian
    5.9 Balkan
    1.6 Sardinian
    11.7 Nonspecific Southern European

    2.1 Nonspecific Northern European
    0.4 Ashkenazi
    0.8 Nonspecific European

    5.1 Middle Eastern

    0.1 Nonspecific Sub-Saharan African

    0.8 Unassigned
    Sicilians and mainlander Southern Italian phenotype galleries.

    http://italicroots.lefora.com/topic/1111/Re-Groups-of-Sicilians
    http://italicroots.lefora.com/topic/375/Southern-italians-how-we-really-look

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    Here is a map of the Broadly South European admixture. Not sure what it represents yet. It might be Neolithic farmer ancestry, or nothing definable.


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    ^ Thanks. Interesting. Southern Spain, Northern Italy, Moldova seem to be hot spots. The English areas might indicate Roman association. Looks to be just EEF...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    Here is the map of East European admixture. I would need more data from East Germany, Czechia, Austria, Slovenia, Estonia, northern Russia, Moldova, the Volga-Ural region, the Caucasus and Turkey to work out the gradients.

    Here are my Czech samples, but most of them are from Northeastern Moravia where my 23andme matches come from. I would describe ancestry of this region as more Slavic than most of the country. In last 500 years it was under clear genetic influence of two foreign groups of peoples. First are Sudeten Germans (almost everyone I know from there has some more or less distant German in his/her family tree). From 16th century it was also influenced by Vlachs, highland pastoralists with original Balkan-like and East Slavic-like culture. They originated in Balkan highlands (Northern Greece, Bulgaria, Romania) where are now called Aromuns, but they mixed with aborigines through their journey along Carpathian Mountains. Their influence is evident from culture of eastern Moravia, linguistics (eastern Slavic and Romanian-like dialect), average physical appearance (dinaroid or „east slavic“ facial structure uncommon in Bohemians or other Moravians, higher stature, more frequent darker skin) and haplogroups (I2a1b, J2, E, R1a). But I think Vlachs were in fact more East Slavic than Balkanic autosomally.
    Please interpret my results as Moravian and not generally Czech, I think Bohemians would score different.

    CZ1 CZ2 CZ3 CZ4 CZ5 CZ6 CZ7 AVERAGE
    EASTERN EUROPEAN 47.5 64.7 43.9 47.4 52.9 69.1 44.8 52.9
    N.W. EUROPAN 16.7 10.2 37.3 25.9 32.4 12.8 16.2 21.6
    French+German 2.2 1.7 9.6 5.6 8.8 0 0 4.0
    Scandinavian 1.5 1.6 1.9 0 0 3.1 0 1.2
    British+Irish 0.5 0.2 2.6 0 2.4 0 0 0.8
    Broadly NWE 12.6 6.8 23.1 20.4 21.2 9.7 16 15.7
    SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 16 17.8 8.2 14.2 3.9 9 16.5 12.2
    Balkan 14.3 14.2 7.5 11.9 0.6 7.1 7.9 9.1
    Broadly Southern E. 1.3 3.6 0.7 2.3 0.8 1.8 8.6 2.7
    BROADLY EUROPEAN 19.7 7.3 10.4 12.5 10.7 9 20 12.8

    Note that the results between individuals are quite different. All of the samples have of course 4 grandparents from Czechia.
    CZ1 - Me, Northeastern Moravian/Silesian (Slavic or Wallachian surname)
    CZ2 - Northeastern Moravian/Silesian (Wallachian surname)
    CZ3 - Northeastern Moravian/Silesian (German surname)
    CZ4 - Mixed Southern and Northern Moravian (unknown surname)
    CZ5 - Mixed Bohemian and Moravian (common Czech surname)
    CZ6 - Moravian (Slavic surname)
    CZ7 - Silesian from around Polish border (unknown surname)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syky View Post
    Here are my Czech samples, but most of them are from Northeastern Moravia where my 23andme matches come from. I would describe ancestry of this region as more Slavic than most of the country. In last 500 years it was under clear genetic influence of two foreign groups of peoples. First are Sudeten Germans (almost everyone I know from there has some more or less distant German in his/her family tree). From 16th century it was also influenced by Vlachs, highland pastoralists with original Balkan-like and East Slavic-like culture. They originated in Balkan highlands (Northern Greece, Bulgaria, Romania) where are now called Aromuns, but they mixed with aborigines through their journey along Carpathian Mountains. Their influence is evident from culture of eastern Moravia, linguistics (eastern Slavic and Romanian-like dialect), average physical appearance (dinaroid or „east slavic“ facial structure uncommon in Bohemians or other Moravians, higher stature, more frequent darker skin) and haplogroups (I2a1b, J2, E, R1a). But I think Vlachs were in fact more East Slavic than Balkanic autosomally.
    Please interpret my results as Moravian and not generally Czech, I think Bohemians would score different.

    CZ1 CZ2 CZ3 CZ4 CZ5 CZ6 CZ7 AVERAGE
    EASTERN EUROPEAN 47.5 64.7 43.9 47.4 52.9 69.1 44.8 52.9
    N.W. EUROPAN 16.7 10.2 37.3 25.9 32.4 12.8 16.2 21.6
    French+German 2.2 1.7 9.6 5.6 8.8 0 0 4.0
    Scandinavian 1.5 1.6 1.9 0 0 3.1 0 1.2
    British+Irish 0.5 0.2 2.6 0 2.4 0 0 0.8
    Broadly NWE 12.6 6.8 23.1 20.4 21.2 9.7 16 15.7
    SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 16 17.8 8.2 14.2 3.9 9 16.5 12.2
    Balkan 14.3 14.2 7.5 11.9 0.6 7.1 7.9 9.1
    Broadly Southern E. 1.3 3.6 0.7 2.3 0.8 1.8 8.6 2.7
    BROADLY EUROPEAN 19.7 7.3 10.4 12.5 10.7 9 20 12.8

    Note that the results between individuals are quite different. All of the samples have of course 4 grandparents from Czechia.
    CZ1 - Me, Northeastern Moravian/Silesian (Slavic or Wallachian surname)
    CZ2 - Northeastern Moravian/Silesian (Wallachian surname)
    CZ3 - Northeastern Moravian/Silesian (German surname)
    CZ4 - Mixed Southern and Northern Moravian (unknown surname)
    CZ5 - Mixed Bohemian and Moravian (common Czech surname)
    CZ6 - Moravian (Slavic surname)
    CZ7 - Silesian from around Polish border (unknown surname)
    Great! That's very helpful.

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