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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    Here is a map of the Broadly South European admixture. Not sure what it represents yet. It might be Neolithic farmer ancestry, or nothing definable.

    Is it necessary to have a "broadly" map ?..............as it seems Broadly means - we do not know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    Here is the map of the Iberian admixture. I am sure there must be a gradient somewhere in Southwest Spain, but I'll need more regional data.

    Seems correct to me .............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    Most of my contacts with Venetian background are related to TV and get more than 12% (three have less). The F & G % in my list vary from 5.7 (this person has the highest British & I.) to 30%. Your son has the third highest F & G % I've ever seen in a Venetian. Possibly it represents some "Swiss like" ancestry. I don't know.
    my sons results must come via his mother as her K1a4 matches are Villach, Linz, and other Austrian places .............she also has veneti, friuli, finnish and bulgarian matches ...and surprising no other italian matches

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    My relative below..............ancestors originally from Aviano and Porcia in Friuli


    Southern European
    26.0%
    Italian 9.9%
    Balkan 3.4%
    Broadly Southern European 10.7%

    Northwestern European 67.3%
    French and German 18.1%
    British & Irish 18%
    Broadly Northwestern European 29.3%

    Eastern European 3.2%
    Broadly European 5.5%


    His paternal line has always been around the livenza river of NE-Italy

    and his great great grand mothers side origins are from western hungary/austria and eastern slovenian area

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    Is it necessary to have a "broadly" map ?..............as it seems Broadly means - we do not know
    The Broadly South European is probably linked to Neolithic European farmer (EEF) ancestry as it peaks in the Sardinians (23%) and Basques, as well as Friuli (Italian Alps have a lot of Neoilthic lineages, including your T1a2) and southern Iberia. Tellingly it is also found in Northwest Africa, just like the Dodecad Atlantic-Med and Eurogenes Atlantic admixtures, which also peak in Basques and Sardinians, and were confirmed to be very high in Neolithic West European samples run in GEDMatch.

    23andMe may not have been able to identify the 'Broadly' components, but that doesn't mean they are junk. The Broadly Northwest European is actually one of the most useful maps as it represents mostly West Germanic ancestry. You should really read my explanations before posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    My relative below..............ancestors originally from Aviano and Porcia in Friuli


    Southern European
    26.0%
    Italian 9.9%
    Balkan 3.4%
    Broadly Southern European 10.7%

    Northwestern European 67.3%
    French and German 18.1%
    British & Irish 18%
    Broadly Northwestern European 29.3%

    Eastern European 3.2%
    Broadly European 5.5%


    His paternal line has always been around the livenza river of NE-Italy

    and his great great grand mothers side origins are from western hungary/austria and eastern slovenian area
    Ethnic Italian?

    Very high northern europe results

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    Maciamo here is a chart with 16 Polish results in DNA Land:

    https://i.imgur.com/tDt6At6.png



    I have 23andMe results for some, but not for all, of them.

    Generally (but there can be exceptions) DNA Land "North Slavic" = 23andMe "Eastern European".

    For example Pole number "11" from my chart scores:

    1) In DNA Land:

    100% West Eurasian, including:

    77% North Slavic
    11% South-Western European
    8.9% Mediterranean Islander
    2.7% North-West European
    [and 0.4% is still missing?]

    2) In 23andMe:

    100% European, including:

    74.7% Eastern European
    10.8% North-West European
    6.8% Southern European
    1.5% Ashkenazi Jewish
    6.2% Broadly European

    So it seems that some of North-West Euro from 23andMe got counted as South-West Euro in DNA Land. It also seems that Ashkenazi and Broadly Euro from 23andMe, got counted as Med. Islander in DNA Land.

    Later I will post more 23andMe (maybe also FTDNA and more DNA Land) Polish results.

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    DNA Land seems to be very accurate for Poles and mostly in line with 23andMe.

    In my graph Davidski is Pole number "14".

    Davidski in DNA Land has 80% North Slavic, 10% Balkan, 10% North-West Euro. I haven't seen his 23andMe but you told me that he scores 90% Eastern European. DNA Land seems to be more accurate for him, considering what is his ancestry (he is a mix of Baltic Poles and Western Poles - and I assume that his Baltic Polish ancestors would be scoring 100% North Slavic and 100% Eastern European).

    Now some Latvian and Belarusian results (but not from 23andMe):

    Here are Latvian FTDNA MyOrigins, Geno 2.0 NG and DNA Land results:

    100% Eastern European
    100% Eastern European
    96% Eastern Europe + 2% Finland & Northern Siberia
    98% Eastern European + 2% Finnish & Siberian (DNA Land - 100% North Slavic)
    88% Eastern Europe + 12% Finland & Northern Siberia (DNA Land - 92% North Slavic, 2.1% Ambiguous Northeast European, 5.2% Northwest European, 1.2% Ambiguous)
    89% Eastern European + 11% Finnish & Siberian (DNA Land - 100% North Slavic)

    Interestingly a supposedly 50% Baltic German + 50% Latvian got:

    89% Eastern European + 11% Finnish & Siberian (DNA Land - 100% North Slavic)

    And here is how one Latvian user tried to explain that result:

    I'm starting to think some Baltic German families actually ended up with lots of Latvian genes mixed in whether from way back when it was probably most Latvian women around and not many German, or more recently. Some could even be early free Latvians who ended up being considered Germans and the actual heritage forgotten (or hidden for better job opportunities)
    And two more people, only DNA Land results this time:

    Ethnic Belarusian:

    96,0% N.Slavic + 3,9% NW.Euro

    Ethnic Latvian:

    92,0% North Slavic + 2,1% Finnish + 5,2% NW.Euro + 1,2% Ambig.

    "North Slavic" from DNA Land peaks in Belarusians, Lithuanians, Latvians and some Russians.
    Last edited by Tomenable; 11-04-17 at 15:16.

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    Some Non-Polish Slavic results:

    Ethnic Czech DNA Land (43% North Slavic):

    43% North Slavic
    33% North-West Euro
    24% Balkan

    Same Czech 23andMe (47% Eastern Euro):

    46,6% Eastern European
    22,0% Broadly European*
    16,2% North-West European
    15,1% South-East Euro (mostly Balkan)
    0,1% East Asian

    *Not sure why such a huge amount of this?

    Ethnic Slovakian (60% North Slavic):




    Ethnic Croatian (41% North Slavic / 46% North-East Euro in total):



    Dalmatian Croatian (23% North Slavic / 25% North-East Euro in total):



    Dalmatian Serbian 1 (34% North Slavic):



    =================================

    And these two results = the same person, who gets:

    1) In DNA Land - 23% North Slavic
    2) In 23andMe - 20% Eastern Euro

    Dalmatian Serbian 2 (DNA Land):



    Dalmatian Serbian 2 (23andMe):


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    As you can see, generally North Slavic = Eastern European, +/- few percent.

    The biggest difference so far is in case of Davidski (10% difference).

    Soon I will post more 23andMe results, and compare them with DNA Land. I have more DNA Land results because not everyone tests with 23andMe, but everyone can upload to DNA Land (also people who test with FTDNA, etc.).

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    This is Pole number "6" from my DNA Land graph. She scores:

    1) In 23andMe - 70% Eastern Euro + 0,4% Finnish
    2) In DNA Land - 64% North Slavic + 2% Finnish

    Note: DNA Land counts Finnish as part of North-Eastern European. On the other hand, 23andMe apparently counts Finnish as part of North-Western European (which is ridiculous in my opinion).




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    European 97.8%

    Middle Eastern & North African 2.1%

    East Asian & Native American 0.1%

    Unassigned< 0.1%


    European97.8%

    Southern European 58.3%

    Italian 36.4%

    Balkan 1.9%

    Broadly Southern European 20.0%


    Ashkenazi Jewish 15.3%


    Northwestern European 12.5%

    British & Irish 3.7%

    Scandinavian 0.9%

    Broadly Northwestern European 7.8%


    Eastern European 0.2%


    Broadly European 11.5%

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    I have updated all the maps based on more detailed regional data from Spain and Portugal.

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    Maciamo I will try to collect a larger sample for Poland based exclusively on 23andMe. I think that there is a gradient of Eastern Euro within Poland. As for LeBrok and Davidski, they are both partially from Eastern regions which ceased to be part of Poland after WW2, so they are both probably Eastern-shifted compared to the average Pole.

    I haven't tested with 23andMe and I probably won't order it anytime soon. I think that I will order Living DNA because they have a discount for eligible persons now (and I'm probably eligible due to my regional ancestry).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    I have updated all the maps based on more detailed regional data from Spain and Portugal.
    Is post#2 updated as well?

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    Bojko rusyn results , comes from the border between south east Poland and Western Ukraine.

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    Northern Belarusian guy

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    I have updated the East European map and added a new shade for over 80%. But without knowing where the Polish samples come from, it's hard to figure out the boundary between the 60-70%, 70-80% and >80%.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    I have updated the East European map and added a new shade for over 80%. But without knowing where the Polish samples come from, it's hard to figure out the boundary between the 60-70%, 70-80% and >80%.

    Thanks, Maciamo! I am sorry I post it so late. Here are my matches from some European countries with 4 grandparents from their country:

    PL1 - MIX S+NE PL2 - S-PL
    EASTERN EUROPEAN 85.8 89.9
    N.W. EUROPAN 6.3 4
    French+German 0 0
    Scandinavian 1.1 0.6
    British+Irish 0 0
    Broadly NWE 5.2 3.5
    SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 4 3.4
    Balkan 1.8 1.8
    Broadly Southern E. 2.2 1.7
    BROADLY EUROPEAN 3.9 2.6
    GER1 GER2 - Bavaria
    EASTERN EUROPEAN 3.7 10.9
    N.W. EUROPAN 85.8 63.6
    French+German 37.2 16.7
    Scandinavian 6.3 3.9
    British+Irish 14 6.3
    Broadly NWE 28.3 36.5
    SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 6.4 13.5
    Italian 2.1 2.3
    Iberian 1.8 0.5
    Balkan 0 1.6
    Broadly Southern E. 2.5 9.1
    BROADLY EUROPEAN 3.4 11.4
    SK1 SK2
    EASTERN EUROPEAN 58 61.9
    N.W. EUROPAN 16.8 4
    French+German 0.9 0
    Scandinavian 1.3 0
    British+Irish 0.4 1
    Broadly NWE 14.2 3
    SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 11.4 18.5
    Italian 0 0.2
    Iberian 0 0
    Balkan 9.9 12.8
    Broadly Southern E. 1.5 5.6
    BROADLY EUROPEAN 13.8 12.9
    UKR1 - Ternopil UKR2
    EASTERN EUROPEAN 66.1 68.4
    N.W. EUROPAN 6.7 6.3
    French+German 0.5 0
    Scandinavian 0 0
    British+Irish 0.3 0
    Broadly NWE 5.8 5.2
    SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 15.9 15.1
    Italian 0 0
    Iberian 0 0
    Balkan 11.9 11.2
    Broadly Southern E. 4 3.9
    BROADLY EUROPEAN 11.1 9.4
    LITHUANIAN
    EASTERN EUROPEAN 94.8
    N.W. EUROPAN 2.5
    French+German 0
    Scandinavian 0
    British+Irish 0
    Broadly NWE 2.5
    SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 0.2
    Italian 0
    Iberian 0.2
    Balkan 0
    Broadly Southern E. 0.1
    BROADLY EUROPEAN 2.4
    GREEK
    EASTERN EUROPEAN 0
    N.W. EUROPAN 1.7
    French+German 0
    Scandinavian 0
    British+Irish 0.2
    Broadly NWE 1.4
    SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 96
    Italian 13.5
    Iberian 0
    Balkan 72.1
    Broadly Southern E. 10.5
    BROADLY EUROPEAN 1.6
    NORWEGIAN
    EASTERN EUROPEAN 0.1
    N.W. EUROPAN 99.3
    French+German 1.1
    Scandinavian 77.8
    British+Irish 9.9
    Broadly NWE 10.5
    SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 0
    Italian 0
    Iberian 0
    Balkan 0
    Broadly Southern E. 0
    BROADLY EUROPEAN 0.5

    Here is a Czech-Slovak with 3 grandparents from Czechia and 1 from Western Slovakia (it is very similar to Czechs):

    3CZ+1SK
    EASTERN EUROPEAN 42.3
    N.W. EUROPAN 32.5
    French+German 3
    Scandinavian 0.6
    British+Irish 1.3
    Broadly NWE 27.6
    SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 10.4
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    Iberian 0
    Balkan 7.1
    Broadly Southern E. 3.2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Some Non-Polish Slavic results:

    Ethnic Czech DNA Land (43% North Slavic):

    43% North Slavic
    33% North-West Euro
    24% Balkan

    Same Czech 23andMe (47% Eastern Euro):

    46,6% Eastern European
    22,0% Broadly European*
    16,2% North-West European
    15,1% South-East Euro (mostly Balkan)
    0,1% East Asian

    *Not sure why such a huge amount of this?
    It's me with old 23andme! I think Maciamo has already used my results.
    Here is a Bohemian from Central Bohemian Region (around Prague) on DNA.Land:
    DNA.Land1.jpg

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    Thanks a lot Tomenable, srdceleva and Syky for sharing this new data. I have further refined the East European map by making the shades more distinct from one another as I couldn't see well the difference between the 30-40, 40-50 and 50-60.

    I have also updated the Balkans, BSE, BNWE, French & German, and British & Irish maps. Don't forget to clear your browser cache to see the changes.

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    From Madrid, Spain.

    Ancestors from Madrid, Cataluña, Guadalajara and Extremadura.

    Paternal line : R1b
    Maternal line: X

    Ancestry composition 23andme:

    99.8% European

    Southern European 80.9%
    67.9% Iberian
    2.5% Italian
    10.4% Broadly Southern European

    Northwestern European 15.3%
    7.0% British & Irish
    0.2% French & German
    8.1% Broadly Northwestern European

    0.2% Ashkenazi Jewish

    3.4% Broadly European

    < 0.1% Oceanian

    < 0.1% North African

    < 0.1% Unassigned

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b
    MtDNA haplogroup
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    Ethnic group
    Polish
    Country: Poland



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    Quote Originally Posted by Syky View Post
    Here is a Bohemian from Central Bohemian Region (around Prague) on DNA.Land:
    DNA.Land1.jpg
    (S)he has so much of "Ambiguous" because (s)he uploaded the file soon after DNA Land launched its services. Tell him/her to re-upload his/her raw data, I'm quite sure that the results are going to be different this time.

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    MtDNA haplogroup
    U4b1b1

    Ethnic group
    75% Slovak, 25℅ American mix
    Country: Slovakia



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    23 and me results for an ethnic rusyn from far east Slovakia

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