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Thread: East European admixture in Eurogenes K10

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    East European admixture in Eurogenes K10

    I found a lot of Scandinavian kits using "One-to-many" search option in GEDmatch.

    I checked how much of East European do these Scandinavians get in Eurogenes K10:

    Kit - ethnicity - East European %:

    T863*** - Norwegian - 46.67%
    T837*** - Norwegian - 44.77%
    T488*** - Norwegian - 44.16%
    T550*** - Norwegian - 44.03%
    T832*** - Swedish - 43.75%
    T175*** - Norwegian - 43.39%
    T391*** - Norwegian - 43.00%
    T235*** - Norwegian - 39.29%
    H280*** - Norwegian - 38.36%
    T220*** - Swedish - 35.80%
    T425*** - Norwegian - 35.49%
    T583*** - Norwegian - 35.43%
    T134*** - Swedish - 33.51%
    A989*** - Norwegian - 33.18%
    T702*** - Norwegian - 33.09%
    T398*** - Swedish - 33.06%
    T753*** - Swedish - 31.76%
    T926*** - Swedish - 31.38%
    T241*** - Swedish - 31.13%
    T941*** - Swedish - 30.90%
    T931*** - Swedish - 30.85%
    T204*** - Norwegian - 30.47%
    T512*** - Swedish - 30.33%
    T955*** - Swedish - 30.23%
    T975*** - Swedish - 30.16%
    T905*** - Norwegian - 30.02%
    Z711*** - Norwegian - 29.93%
    T035*** - Norwegian - 29.71%
    T256*** - Swedish - 29.00%
    T753*** - Norwegian - 28.58%
    T822*** - Swedish - 28.53%
    T142*** - Swedish - 28.20%
    T664*** - Norwegian - 28.09%
    T404*** - Norwegian - 27.29%
    F367*** - Swedish - 27.27%
    M873*** - Norwegian - 27.09%
    M606*** - Swedish - 26.55%
    T262*** - Norwegian - 26.48%
    T346*** - Norwegian - 26.08%
    M351*** - Norwegian - 24.54%
    T269*** - Northern Dutch - 24.49%
    T560*** - Norwegian - 22.55%
    T293*** - Frisian (Denmark) - 21.22%

    What's interesting is that there are more Norwegians than Swedes scoring >40% of it.

    Perhaps I just did not manage to find any Northern (and North-Eastern) Swedes?

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    By comparison my own results in K10:

    East European - 44.48%
    Last edited by Tomenable; 03-04-17 at 16:23. Reason: kit numbers censored :P

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    Yea makes a lot more sense , I don't know what dienkes was doing when he created the spreadsheet for dodecad.

    My father's results K10
    Population
    South Asian 1.10
    Caucasus 6.95
    Southwest Asian 2.59
    North Amerindian + Arctic 0.33
    Siberian 0.77
    Mediterranean 12.76
    East Asian 0.34
    West African -
    East European 39.78
    North Atlantic 35.39

    Can you share your total percentages?

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    My grandmother's K10 results for comparison. Her ancestry is mostly British isles.
    Population
    South Asian -
    Caucasus 9.13
    Southwest Asian 2.25
    North Amerindian + Arctic -
    Siberian 0.15
    Mediterranean 14.37
    East Asian -
    West African -
    East European 19.35
    North Atlantic 54.71

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    My total percentages:

    East European 44.48
    North Atlantic 34.53
    Mediterranean 11.34
    Caucasus 7.61
    Southwest Asian 1.32
    South Asian 0.43
    North Amerindian + Arctic 0.29

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    South Asian 1.82
    Caucasus 24.79
    Southwest Asian 11.78
    North Amerindian + Arctic 0.46
    Siberian -
    Mediterranean 26.04
    East Asian -
    West African 0.12
    East European 10.56
    North Atlantic 24.43

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    My results.

    Population
    South Asian 0.41
    Caucasus 4.80
    Southwest Asian 1.60
    North Amerindian + Arctic 0.57
    Siberian 0.44
    Mediterranean 12.09
    East Asian 0.71
    West African 0.32
    East European 37.34
    North Atlantic 41.72

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    Results for an ethnic pole from western Ukraine Zydaczow

    Population
    South Asian 0.17
    Caucasus 8.35
    Southwest Asian 2.33
    North Amerindian + Arctic 0.40
    Siberian -
    Mediterranean 12.83
    East Asian 0.90
    West African 0.23
    East European 42.48
    North Atlantic 32.31

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    Ukrainian results from Kiev

    Population
    South Asian 1.33
    Caucasus 9.04
    Southwest Asian 1.96
    North Amerindian + Arctic 0.97
    Siberian 1.81
    Mediterranean 9.73
    East Asian -
    West African -
    East European 48.43
    North Atlantic 26.73

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    K10 results for Belarusian

    Eurogenes k10

    Population
    South Asian 0.75
    Caucasus 4.16
    Southwest Asian 0.18
    North Amerindian + Arctic 0.44
    Siberian 1.41
    Mediterranean 8.25
    East Asian -
    West African 0.35
    East European 55.88
    North Atlantic 28.57

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    Me:

    South Asian 0.90
    Caucasus 6.22
    Southwest Asian 3.44
    North Amerindian + Arctic 0.70
    Siberian -
    Mediterranean 11.90
    East Asian -
    West African -
    East European 38.96
    North Atlantic 37.83

    --EDIT
    I made average Czech (21 samples):
    Average Czech
    N. ATLANTIC 37.72 (30.06 - 42.8)
    E EURO 38.32 (31.95 - 43.35)
    MEDIT 13.17 (9.25 - 16.16)
    CAUCASUS 7.77 (4.69 - 12.26)
    SW ASIAN 1.33 (0 - 3.44)
    S ASIAN 0.93 (0 - 2.54)
    SIBERIAN 0.15 (0 - 0.79)
    E ASIAN 0.05 (0 - 0.55)
    N. AMERIND 0.43 (0 - 0.94)
    W AFRICAN 0.12 (0 - 0.58)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syky View Post
    Me:

    South Asian 0.90
    Caucasus 6.22
    Southwest Asian 3.44
    North Amerindian + Arctic 0.70
    Siberian -
    Mediterranean 11.90
    East Asian -
    West African -
    East European 38.96
    North Atlantic 37.83
    Can you do a Czech average? Also if you could separate Moravians and Bohemians. I think Moravians are going to be just like Slovaks but Bohemians will be a bit different. I keep trying to find Slovak samples on gedmatch through my father's kits. It seems Slovaks never take genetic tests. All I get are southern poles and Western ukrainians

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    Sorry I didn't catch your quick answer. I edited my post. Separation is difficult, because I don't know who is really Moravian/Bohemian. I am Moravian and only one or two samples are clearly Moravians too:

    N. ATLANTIC 32.95 34.62
    E EURO 43.35 40.18
    MEDIT 12.22 12.3
    CAUCASUS 7.84 8.72
    SW ASIAN 0.87 2.98
    S ASIAN 0.75 0
    SIBERIAN 0.72 0.35
    E ASIAN 0.55 0
    N. AMERIND 0.73 0.43
    W AFRICAN 0 0.41

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    this is a southern pole. His father was from Tarnow and mother from Jaslo poland. His results would fit with in the czech ( and im assuming Slovak) range. Its funny because people always like to seperate poles and say they are all more like east slavs genetically but southern poles and even west poles seem to be closer to slovaks and czechs which make sense.

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    South Asian 0.18
    Caucasus 5.05
    Southwest Asian 1.24
    North Amerindian + Arctic -
    Siberian -
    Mediterranean 12.56
    East Asian -
    West African -
    East European 42.26
    North Atlantic 38.71
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    This is actually really interesting, but I wonder if these results change depending on the farther down you are in Eastern Europe. Also where did he get these results what company did he use? If he took DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tahir0010 View Post
    This is actually really interesting, but I wonder if these results change depending on the farther down you are in Eastern Europe. Also where did he get these results what company did he use? If he took DNA.
    Was this addressed at my last post? Yes it is interesting. This particular person tested with 23 and me. Tomenable would have to share balkan countries K10 results as I dont have any balkan kits. I'm sure their med is elevated and eastern euro reduced

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    I think Balkan is a bit less ANE and much more Basal, so I think they will have much more Caucasus, a bit more Med and some SW Asian, a bit less Eastern. This is my guess.

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    Ten slovak ruthenian samples from far east slovakia. Some have ancestry from ruthenians in the carpathians on the polish and ukrainian side of the border. I put them in R and created an average. Its interesting how low of North Atlantic they have compared to czechs, Slovaks, and Poles, and how there med and west asian admix is elevated


    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Average
    South Asian 2.07 0.24 1.10 0.00 1.06 0.71 0.66 0.86 1.93 1.68 1.031
    Caucasus 8.56 7.39 9.71 8.89 7.50 10.47 8.99 8.70 8.62 8.94 8.777
    Southwest Asian 2.26 3.80 1.40 1.44 3.01 1.54 1.57 0.72 0.34 3.56 1.964
    North Amerindian + Arctic 0.60 0.00 0.32 1.65 0.00 1.02 0.00 0.00 1.20 0.00 0.479
    Siberian 1.36 2.14 1.21 1.61 0.00 0.82 0.40 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.754
    Mediterranean 15.34 12.51 13.62 14.32 15.02 14.30 16.85 16.68 14.03 13.89 14.656
    East Asian 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.81 0.00 1.24 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.305
    West African 0.00 0.24 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.19 0.00 0.48 0.00 0.091
    East European 40.30 43.19 42.57 39.38 45.36 42.02 39.17 38.30 47.77 40.50 41.856
    North Atlantic 29.51 30.17 30.06 32.72 26.23 29.12 30.92 34.73 25.65 31.43 30.054

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    Wow, how did you get so many Rusyn samples in just few days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syky View Post
    Wow, how did you get so many Rusyn samples in just few days?
    Actually the kit u sent me never responded but through my dad's kit I somehow came into contact with an American ruthenian who runs a Carpathian rusyn project :)

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    Rusyns are cool and very temperament guys :) Many of them study in Prague.

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    Do you have GEDmatch kits or Eurogenes K36 results of these Rusyns ???

    We (me + one more guy) are making Oracle for Eurogenes K36 calculator:

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    Later we will probably publish the spreadsheet with pop. averages in K36.

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    We even found members of Hawaiian royal dynasty on GEDmatch... :

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    "One-to-many" search is very useful, you can find a lot of populations.

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    Really cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Do you have GEDmatch kits or Eurogenes K36 results of these Rusyns ???

    We (me + one more guy) are making Oracle for Eurogenes K36 calculator:

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    Later we will probably publish the spreadsheet with pop. averages in K36.
    Yes I have all of them, I'll send them to you on the other forum. I'm excited to see your finished Oracle project

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Do you have GEDmatch kits or Eurogenes K36 results of these Rusyns ???

    We (me + one more guy) are making Oracle for Eurogenes K36 calculator:

    http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads...l=1#post506232

    Later we will probably publish the spreadsheet with pop. averages in K36.
    did you get my message with the kit numbers on the other forum? i sent the message twice but I see nothing in my sent items?

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