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How can MyOrigins be even considered reliable?Originally Posted by Arbaso
That's another interesting case. This shows how randomly the admixture are assigned in MyOrigins. If it had the slighest reliability, how could the old version not spot 2% Native American ancestry reported in the new version? Fine-scale ancestry between close European populations isn't always easy, but Native American admixture is so distinct from European one that it should stick out like a sore thumb.
Another sign of unreliability is that your 2% East Central African became 2% of West African. That may not seem like a big deal for Westerners, but it is in terms of genetic accuracy, considering that there is more genetic diversity in Africa than in the rest of the world, and East Central African are as remote to West Africans as an Irishman would be to a Chinese.
Your 2% of South Central Asia probably correspond to the 2% of East Middle Eastern and would presumably correspond to ancestry around modern Iran. Unless you have Balkanic or Italian ancestry, it's probably not representative of any actual ancestry in the last 2000 years.
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My previous results 100% East-Euro.
My updated results 97% East-Euro, 3% SE-Euro.
Interesting point.
I had once 18% Asia Minor, now guess what I have ... zero! I find it most amusing to read in the FTDNA forum how many people, despite the heavy and justified criticism, still find their results useful or reliable.
European99%
East Europe78% Southeast Europe11% British Isles10%
Trace Results
Oceania< 1%
European99.6%
Eastern European68.6%
Southern European18.6%
Balkan15.2%
Broadly Southern European3.4%
Northwestern European5.1%
French & German0.9%
British & Irish0.5%
Finnish0.1%
Broadly Northwestern European3.5%
Broadly European7.3%
Middle Eastern & North African0.3%
North African0.3%
East Asian & Native American< 0.1%
East Asian< 0.1%
Broadly East Asian< 0.1%
Broadly East Asian & Native American< 0.1%
Sub-Saharan African< 0.1%
Central & South African< 0.1%
Unassigned< 0.1%
It gave me 12% Sephardic but I don't have any Jewish ancestry as far as I know.
53% East Middle East
31% West Middle East
12% Sephardic
other trace stuff
My maternal haplogroup has many Sephardic matches, maybe that's why.
Last edited by IronSide; 01-10-17 at 14:00.
This is why I'm not wasting money on these tests. Accuracy is out the window.
Middle Eastern 0%
Asia Minor < 2%
East Middle East 0%
North Africa 0%
West Middle East < 2%
European 96%
British Isles 27%
East Europe 0%
Finland 0%
Scandinavia 0%
Southeast Europe < 2%
Iberia 0%
West and Central Europe 69%
Jewish Diaspora 0%
Ashkenazi 0%
Sephardic 0%
The interesting thing, my paper trail and matches all go back to Finland and Scandinavia
Since the Update both me and my GrandPa are 100% Balkan( South Eastern Europe), I guess we were among the one's taken as a reference population :)
Here is mine
European 95%
Iberia 54%
Southeast Europe 25%
British Isles 16%
Middle Eastern 4%
North Africa 4%
Trace Results
Oceania < 1%
I think for mine the north african is a bit high from the other tests but this kind of look accurate for me
See attached pic. Scandinavian is too high but this is the second service to report it that high. MyHeritage first reported it 32% then 36% while showing the rest of my parents and family as 0%.
Ancestry and LivingDNA agree with FTDNA that I have zero "West Euro" French/Germanic component. This is very odd as I should get about 10% based on my parents and average British results.FTDNAorigins.jpg
This is from the autosomal transfer from Ancestry.com and after I filled in some of the positions with data from my LivingDNA file that the Ancestry file was missing.
Statistical noise from the Middle east is called Jewish, Middle East, Kurdish, etc by the companies so there is something there but they disagree on what it is.
Ancestry.com and MyHeritage report 100% european, LivingDNA shows 97% European and 3% World Unassigned (assigned to Kurdish in complete mode).
I should get around 10% Scandinavian by my estimate.
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Quoting Brianco (this is from his post in this thread):
"From what I have been reading on blogs, I will be ignoring this update. I say this because many people who have Scandinavian parents and grandparents have now got ZERO % Scandinavian and really exaggerated British Isles"
I think maybe the test is having trouble telling Scandinavians apart from the British? So I think once this little kink is fixed, your British should go up.
MyOrigins in FTDNA: 100% Iberian.
As boring as that.
Yep, but that's what makes the Basques very interesting comparing to someone like me
What about in other searchs?
In other companies the results are similar:
DNAland: 100% Iberian
GenePlaza: 99.6% Southwestern European
0.4% Ambiguous
23andMe: 97.7% Iberian
1.3% Northwestern European
0.6% Southern European
0.1% Southeast Asian
MyHeritage 97.2% Iberian
1.9% Baltic
0.9% Finnish
By the way, I tested with 23andMe and it's my favourite result; at least it gives me a pinch of salt!
That's very interesting. They are probably all using Pais Vasco as the reference for "Iberian".
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I have to laugh, I have more Middle East than my parents combined
Attachment 9406
and my parents
Attachment 9407
I guess you could be modeled as having 7% Asia Minor but that doesn't mean that you have more ancestors from there than both of your parents combined.
I have 12% Sephardic but none of my ancestors were Jewish, because that's how the tool models you. My 12% Sephardic reminded me of another calculator on gedmatch (puntDNAL K13) that gave me this:
1 71.9% Saudi + 28.1% Jordanian @ 3.03
2 82.8% Saudi + 17.2% Sephardic_Jew @ 3.04
3 84.6% Saudi + 15.4% Italian_Sicilian @ 3.07
4 84.7% Saudi + 15.3% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 3.13
5 82.8% Saudi + 17.2% Turkish @ 3.14
6 76.9% Saudi + 23.1% Syrian @ 3.15
7 68.4% Saudi + 31.6% Palestinian @ 3.16
8 81.6% Saudi + 18.4% Cypriot @ 3.21
9 82.5% Saudi + 17.5% Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.21
10 87% Saudi + 13% Romani @ 3.28
11 86.4% Saudi + 13.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.31
12 77.5% Saudi + 22.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.33
13 78% Saudi + 22% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.34
14 86.3% Saudi + 13.7% Greek_Central @ 3.42
15 84% Saudi + 16% Turkish_Aydin @ 3.45
16 77.6% Saudi + 22.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.48
17 87.8% Saudi + 12.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.57
18 87.9% Saudi + 12.1% Albanian @ 3.6
19 88.4% Saudi + 11.6% Italian_Tuscan @ 3.61
20 55.2% Bedouin + 44.8% Jordanian @ 3.63
Mine seems pretty accurate but also pretty blase with no specificity.
European100%
British Isles
0%
East Europe
0%
Finland
0%
Scandinavia
0%
Southeast Europe
100%
I guess the algorithm was a bit lazy there... or not accurate at all. Well, that is FTDNA...
FTDNA myOrigins
West and Central Europe 52%
Southeast Europe 40%
British Isles 5%
West Midle East 3%
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My results: 77% East Europe, 14% Finland, 2% Northeast Asia, 2% Siberia, 2% Central Asia, <2% North and Central America.
My results:
29% West and Central Europe
19% Southeast Europe
14% Iberia
11% North Africa
9% North and Central America
9% West Africa
3% South America
<2% Finland
<2% Siberia
<2% West Middle East
<2% Oceania
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