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100%
European 62%
East Europe
40%

Scandinavia
11%

West and Central Europe
6%

Finland
5%


East Asian 22%
Northeast Asia
13%

Siberia
9%


Middle Eastern 12%
Asia Minor
12%


Trace Results

North and Central America
<2%

South America
<1%

British Isles
<2%

 
father
100%

European 63%
East Europe
37%

British Isles
13%

Finland
13%


East Asian 22%
Siberia
10%

Northeast Asia
9%

Southeast Asia
3%


Middle Eastern 12%
Asia Minor
12%


Trace Results
Scandinavia
<1%

Central Asia
<2%

North and Central America
<2%

 
Maternal
100%
European 66%
East Europe
42%

British Isles
14%

Finland
7%

Southeast Europe
3%


East Asian 19%
Northeast Asia
11%

Siberia
8%


Central/South Asian 6%

Central Asia
6%


Middle Eastern 5%
Asia Minor
5%


New World 2%

South America
2%


Trace Results
Ashkenazi
<1%

Scandinavia
<1%

West Middle East
<1%

 
it fits very much my geneology (y)

Jewish Diaspora 62%

Sephardic
36%
Ashkenazi
26%



European 22%
Southeast Europe
11%
East Europe
11%



Middle Eastern 14%
Asia Minor
14%


Trace Results
Siberia
<1%
West and Central Europe
<1%
West Middle East
<1%


 
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it fits very much my geneology (y)

Jewish Diaspora 62%

Sephardic
36%
Ashkenazi
26%



European 22%
Southeast Europe
11%
East Europe
11%



Middle Eastern 14%
Asia Minor
14%


Trace Results
Siberia
<1%
West and Central Europe
<1%
West Middle East
<1%



Is this Origins 2.0 or 3.0?
 
FTDNA v3.0:
me: 93% Baltic, 6% Ireland, <1% Magyar, <1% Western Siberian Plains

mom: 93% Baltic, 5% Scandinavia, 2% Ireland

dad: 69% Baltic, 19% West Slavic, 7% Finland, 4% Ireland
 
a guess based on genealogy (plus some DNA tests and matches DNA tests for the one component) for what my mom should score:
Baltic: 85%-88%
German: 6%-8%
Scandinavian: 0%-5%
Scottish/UK: 1%-3%
Oceanian: 1%-2%
Slavic: 0%-3%

a wild specific guess of what maybe it could be:
Baltic: 85%
German: 6%
Scandinavian: 3%
Slavic: 3%
Scottish: 2%
Oceanian: 1%
 
And the long-winded version with old results and other results and lots of detail genealogy info and such:

Results for us are better than with 2.0 and, in fact, arguably the best from any current company. Not that there are not likely some issues, but overall the issues seem less now.

They now break down Eastern European into more regions so that makes that are much more informative than under version 2.0 or over at 23andme. It now detects Western European for Baltic people while the old 2.0 version struggled to do that. The new 23andm3 v5 also struggles badly with that (it does find it, but wayyyy underplays it). MyHeritage sometimes finds it and sometimes misses it. The old v3 of 23andme was very good at this though, maybe the best any test has done, but they messed that up with the new v5. Also 23andm3 v3 used to give my dad a bit of Finnish and the chromosome painter showed it, for instance on one spot that my dad has a slew of 99-100% Finnish matches and now v5 doesn't give him any.

FTDNA v2.0:
me: 99% East Europe, <1% Southeast Europe

mom: 100% East Europe

dad: 91% East Europe, 8% Finland
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FTDNA v3.0:
me: 93% Baltic, 6% Ireland, <1% Magyar, <1% Western Siberian Plains

mom: 93% Baltic, 5% Scandinavia, 2% Ireland

dad: 69% Baltic, 19% West Slavic, 7% Finland, 4% Ireland
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23andme v5 (seems much worse for us than their old v3):
me: 95.3% Eastern European, 2.6% Greek & Balkan, 0.6% French & German, 0.8% Broadly Northwestern European, 0.7% Broadly European
and EE countries: Latvia and Lithuania = Highly Likely; Poland and Russia = Possible
and Latvian regions: Riga - heavy shading; Gulbene and Nereta - intermediate shading

mom: 99.8% Eastern European, 0.2% Broadly European (I forget but I think v3 said something like 91% Eastern European and 8% Broadly Northwestern European and 1% unassigned.)
and EE countries: Latvia and Lithuania = Highly Likely; Russia = Likely; Poland and Ukraine = Possible
and Latvian regions: Riga - heavy shading; Gulbene - intermediate shading; Nereta, Jelgava, Ludza - light shading

dad: 98.0% Eastern European, 0.9% French & German, 0.8% Broadly Northwestern European, Broadly Northwestern European 0.3%
and EE countries: Latvia and Lithuania - Highly Likely; Poland and Russia - Possible
and Latvian regions: Riga - heavy shading; Liepaja and Ludza - intermediate shading
================================================== =========================================
MyHeritage:
me: 95.5% Baltic; 1.0% East European; 3.5% Irish, Scottish and Welsh

mom: 100.0% Baltic

dad: 85.3% Baltic; 13.3% Irish, Scottish and Welsh; 1.4% North African
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Geno 2.0:
I forget the numbers exactly for the ancient world components but they could be parsed to imply:
mom: might have a lot of Baltic/Eastern European and a bit of Western European and a little bit of Oceanian
dad: might have a lot of Baltic/Eastern European, a bit of Western European, a bit of some sort of Romanian/western Ukrainian/general Balkan type element and some Finnish and possible a touch of something more exotic
================================================== ===========

now as per what we have managed going by genealogical research:
mom: 37.5% ethnic Baltic Latvian from Nereta, Latvia; 12.5% unknown father of lateish 1800s ancestor (just over border in Lithuania from Nereta, might well not be entirely Latvian or Lithuanian, could be Polish or Balkan or Baltic German or who knows); 25% ethnic Baltic Latvian from Valmiera, Latvia; 12.5% ethnic Baltic Latvian from Jelgava (also one born in Latvian outpost in Lithuania run by Baltic German barons who had cross ties to Jelgava, quite possible that strictly maternal line eventually leads to something very unusual and interesting, mtDNA is of a type that is Western European so some bit of this 12.5% virtually certainly goes to something not actually ethnic Baltic Latvian; FWIW this person came from a spot in Lithuania where some Lithuanian testers have scored msyterious tiny bits of Oceanian on some DNA tests as did my mom on Geno 2.0 and Eurogenes K13, one of her matches actually got nearly 3% at Eurogenes K13 and some others get traces at 23andme and elsewhere); 12.5% Baltic German (but one person at 3.125% level of one of these branches has a Scottish seeming surname Barclay and at least some bit of that must eventually trace back to the UK with a potential stop in Scandinavia along the way possible as some Barclay went to the Baltics directly, some with first stop in Poland/Prussia and others first through Scandinavia; also at 1.5625% level one person has an odd rare variant Slavic type surname maybe from Slovakia or Poland but there are bizarre record confusions and this person might possibly instead supposed to be someone else who would be ethnic Baltic Latvian instead; 4.6875% of this Baltic German line stuff seems to go to people who likely would eventually trace back to Germany in the early 1700s or 1600s; and finally 3.125% level has someone with a surname that might well trace back to Germany in early 1700s or 1600s or earlier or then again just as likely trace back to ultimate Scandinavian roots; and of course these Baltic German lines can at any point farther back have ties mixed in to who knows what)

Anyway, so let us note we get from that Latvian regions of: a LOT of Nereta (37.5%-50%), quite a bit of Valmiera (25%) and some Jelgava (around 12.5%) and then the rest a mix of all over Latvia and beyond. Only 23andme tries to pick out such regions (by using DNA matches and various normalizations and weightings of them and so on) and didn't note Valmiera at all and noted possible Jelgava connection. Then it noted a heavy Riga expectation which is not apparent in reality at all, but it's known that any truly major city in a country tends to swamp out and trick the 23andme algorithm so almost everyone gets the major city in country of primary origin marked with super heaviest expectation and one has to always take that with a huge grain of salt. It then added a somewhat strong Gulbene guess, her mother was born there so kinda correct but none of the ancestry is from there and no cross relations to anyone there so it's a bit odd to show up and then the Ludza well hard to say so far zero Latgale ancestry known for my mom (or dad) but she (as well as my dad) do get a decent number of DNA matches there so somehow there is some connection over there maybe some roving Baltic German spread cross ties from there to places of our known ancestry or something?

Anyway from that as far as countries go we get origin ethnicities of: Latvian for sure tons, possibly a little Lithuanian, likely a little German, a little bit of UK that is probably Scottish, maybe could be a little Scandinavian and Polish/Slovakian and of course unknown hidden stuff. So far only 23andme really gets into countries and they picked Latvia strongly which fits, Lithuania strongly which could well fit, Russia semi-strongly which could fit but so far has not shown up, Poland possibly which could possibly fit and Ukranian which maybe could possibly fit but not shown up so far yet

Anyway from that as far as the basic ancestry comp breakdown expected:
Baltic: 75%-89% (maybe to 93% if almost every single thing went Baltic way and some more mixed in a bit farther back again in Baltic German lines)

UK (probably Scottish): fractional%-3% (depending upon how much mixing they had outside of UK on their ancestral line which has not been traced at all, whatever is not UK is probably either German or

Scandinavian but could be other stuff too)

Polish/Slovakian: 0.0%-1.6%

German: probably 5%-9%

Scandinavian: 0.0%-5%

not traced but there is probably around 1%-2% Oceanian based on various external tests and match tests

some mix of anything from someone who seemed to have one and quite possible more out of wedlock kids in mid to late 1800s in the Baltics which would total to non-Baltic of: 0.0%-12.5% and could add up to 12.% to any category above or to a new category or categories

so maybe:
Baltic: 85%-88%
German: 6%-8%
Scandinavian: 0%-5%
Scottish/UK: 1%-3%
Oceanian: 1%-2%
Slavic: 0%-3%

a wild guess of what maybe it could be:
Baltic: 85%
German: 6%
Scandinavian: 3%
Slavic: 3%
Scottish: 2%
Oceanian: 1%

but some uncertainties, certainly LOTS of Baltic but NOT all Baltic, hard to peg it especially with the one mystery mid to late 1800s out of wedlock with unknown father that could really swing things around

The traced ancestry seems to overall perfectly fit with the general ancient component projections of Geno 2.0 and with the more modern component type DNA tests the closest matches overall would seem to be 23andm3 v3 (something like 91% Eastern European, 8% Broadly Northwestern European and 1% Unassigned) and MyOrigins 3.0 (93% Baltic, 5% Scandinavia, 2% Ireland) with 23andm3 v5 (99.8% Eastern European and 0.2% Broadly European) and MyHeritage (100% Baltic) results not quite as good.

And this is long so I will continue with detailed breakdown for my dad tomorrow.
 
After 3 years of having my 23andme raw data uploaded into a newly created then ftDNA account, I decided yesterday to unlock my family finder (got a 10$ coupon:grin: ) so for 9$ seemed like a good idea.
Comparing now ftDNA's "Origin version3" with 23andme's "Ancestry Composition" from my 23andme account there are few differences to see, considering it is the exact same test these two companies are actually analyzing.

My last "Ancestry composition" updated October 12th 2020 and the 1513 genetic relatives 23andme is showing to me there comes with a quite simple result:
100% European
100% Southern European
100% Greek & Balkan

ftDNA's "Origins version 3" on the other hand is coming with few surprises :) First of all only 296 matches compared to the 1513 from 23andme, but with a bit more variation:

Europe 100%

Southern Europe 64%
-Greece & Balkans 39%
-Italian Peninsula 25%

Eastern Europe 36%
-West Slavic 26%
-Magyar 10%

Now at some point in the future I might consider unlocking the features of a very same kit uploaded to myheritage the same like 3 years ago.


 
for me it is more logical than my origins 2.0 :cool-v:


73%
Southern Europe
Greece & Balkans
33%
Malta
14%

European Jewish
Ashkenazi Jewish
26%


Middle East & North Africa27%
Middle East
Sephardic Jewish
19%
Southern Levant
<4%
Northern Levant
<3%
Middle East Jewish
Mizrahi Jewish

<2%

Asia<1%
West Central Asia

Indus Valley
<1%

 
All of a sudden, I have Magyar percentage and Malta percentage when I did not have any before. Granted it's less that 2% Magyar and 4% Malta. I also have 6% Armenian/Anatolia/Mesopotamia.

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Not much changed for me. Greece and Balkans 93 + 7 Sardinia. My guess is Sardinia is supposed to hold some Neolithic European %tages for me, since I am quite positive I have no relation to Nuragic L283 based on the fact my clade and the ancient clades found there split some 5.2-4k years ago.

Before this update, couple of years ago my breakdown was 88-90% Balkans and 10-12 % Britain.

Edit: This might be my Origins 2.0, any way I can check 3.0 ?
 
Europe 100%
Western Europe
England, Wales, and Scotland 47%
Scandinavian 21%
Central Europe 20%
Irish 13%

That's 101% Western European! No Spain. No Italy. No Eastern European (Slavs?).

Ancient Origins:

Hunter-Gatherer 51%
Farmer 39%
Metal Age Invader (IE) 10%
Non-European 0%
 
Europe 100%
Western Europe
England, Wales, and Scotland 47%
Scandinavian 21%
Central Europe 20%
Irish 13%

That's 101% Western European! No Spain. No Italy. No Eastern European (Slavs?).

Ancient Origins:

Hunter-Gatherer 51%
Farmer 39%
Metal Age Invader (IE) 10%
Non-European 0%

I have a feeling FTDNA underestimates IE %tages, if it is the case as I suspect (from comparing to different models/calculators) it might have something to do with the fact MAI IE was itself composed of HG and F components, hence there is a probability those %tages get stripped from the IE part into their pure forms.
 
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Not much changed for me. Greece and Balkans 93 + 7 Sardinia. My guess is Sardinia is supposed to hold some Neolithic European %tages for me, since I am quite positive I have no relation to Nuragic L283 based on the fact my clade and the ancient clades found there split some 5.2-4k years ago.

Before this update, couple of years ago my breakdown was 88-90% Balkans and 10-12 % Britain.

Edit: This might be my Origins 2.0, any way I can check 3.0 ?

It is cool that you score sardinia :cool-v:

P.s
My brother and mother score it to ,
me and father nada:LOL:
 
Bulgarian DNA results

My results:

livingdna

Y-DNA - I1a3a1a1/I-Y2245.2
(According to the site, 7% of Bulgarians own haplogroup I1)
MtDNA - H65

Autosomal test:

Europe 100%

Europe (East) 88.9%

- East Balkans 79.8%
- Northeast Europe 9.2%

Europe (South) 11.1%
- Aegean 11.1%

Gedmatch
Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle

Population approximation:

North_Atlantic - 21.82 Pct
Baltic - 27.02 Pct
West_Med - 15.74 Pct
West_Asian - 12.15 Pct
East_Med - 20.3 Pct
Red_Sea - 0.65 Pct
South_Asian - 0.63 Pct
East_Asian - 0.93 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian - 0.23 Pct
Oceanian - 0.53 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.02
2 North_Atlantic 21.82
3 East_Med 20.30
4 West_Med 15.74
5 West_Asian 12.15

Least-squares method
Using 1 population approximation:

1 Bulgarian # 3.990594
2 Romanian # 4.917012
3 Serbian # 7.861625
4 Moldavian # 12.506771
5 Greek_Thessaly # 13.531382
6 Croatian # 15.823996
7 Hungarian # 16.390644
8 Austrian # 20.451214
9 Tuscan # 20.657928
10 Italian_Abruzzo # 20.899101
11 Central_Greek # 21.109537
12 North_Italian # 21.409376
13 East_German # 22.350311
14 East_Sicilian # 22.631433
15 West_Sicilian # 22.788332
16 Ukrainian_Lviv # 22.800486
17 South_Polish # 23.588329
18 Ashkenazi # 23.939608
19 Ukrainian # 24.000463
20 West_German # 25.388569

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% South_Italian +50% Ukrainian_Belgorod # 3.066398

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Central_Greek +25% Ukrainian_Belgorod # 2.571116

Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Ukrainian_Belgorod # 2.571116
2 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Southwest_Russian # 2.665503
3 Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Ukrainian_Belgorod # 2.770105
4 Bulgarian + Croatian + Cyprian + South_Polish # 2.875207
5 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + South_Italian + Ukrainian_Belgorod # 2.878361
6 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + Ukrainian_Belgorod # 2.879101
7 Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + Romanian + Ukrainian_Belgorod # 2.941784
8 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Romanian + Ukrainian_Belgorod # 2.945668
9 Bulgarian + Cyprian + Hungarian + Ukrainian_Belgorod # 3.001382
10 Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Ukrainian_Belgorod # 3.024298

mytrueancestry
Closest Archaeogenetic matches

Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona
550 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.77
Top 96 % match vs all users

Ancient Middle Helladic Elati-Logkas Greece
1861 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.05
Top 95 % match vs all users

Byzantine Roman Warrior
605 AD - Genetic Distance: 15.07
Top 95 % match vs all users

Central Roman
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 17.22
Top 90 % match vs all users

Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 17.36
Top 79 % match vs all users

Medieval Hungary / Balkan
1244 AD - Genetic Distance: 18.99
Top 48 % match vs all users

Skeleton Lake

Skeleton Lake Traveller - Hellenic

mtDNA Haplogroup: H12
Y-DNA Haplogroup: E1b1b1b2 (PF1961/Z830)

Deep Dive Match! 10% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 18.155
Sample Match! 91% closer than other users

Gelonian/Helonian Scythians

Scythian Moldova

mtDNA Haplogroup: U5b2a3
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2 (BY15590)
Genetic Distance: 17.275
Sample Match! 72% closer than other users

Scythian Ukraine

mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b1a

Genetic Distance: 19.254
Sample Match! 79% closer than other users

Ancient relatives!

Frankish-Gallic Lombard Grave 590 AD
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 45)
5 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 33.12 cM
Largest chain: 161 SNPs / 9.7 cM

Closest Ancient populations:


Byzantine + Scythian (5.441)
Byzantine + Gaul (8.073)
Seleucid + Scythian (9.124)
Scythian + Roman (10.47)
Seleucid + Gaul (11.89)
Gaul (16.5)
Roman (17.22)
Scythian (17.27)
Byzantine (17.63)
Seleucid (19.35)


Closest genetic modern populations:


1. Macedonian (5.131)
2. Romanian (5.401)
3. Bulgarian (6.141)
4. Bosnian (8.136)
5. Serbian (9.071)
6. Albanian_Tosk (11.45)
7. Kosovar (11.66)
8. Greek_Thessaly (11.79)

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My douther's results (mtDNA H7):

livingdna
Autosomal test:

Europe 100%

Europe (East) 55.3%
- East Balkans 55.3%

Europe (South) 27.6%
- Aegean 27.6%

Europe (North and West) 17.1%
- Baltics 17.1%

Population approximation:

North_Atlantic - 18.29 Pct
Baltic - 27.43 Pct
West_Med - 16.43 Pct
West_Asian - 11.51 Pct
East_Med - 21.82 Pct
Red_Sea - 1.62 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian - 1.53 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian - 1.36 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Gedmatch
Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.44
2 East_Med 21.82
3 North_Atlantic 18.29
4 West_Med 16.43
5 West_Asian 11.51
6 Red_Sea 1.62
7 East_Asian 1.53
8 Oceanian 1.36

Using 1 population approximation:

1 Bulgarian # 5.583748
2 Romanian # 8.052896
3 Serbian # 11.144237
4 Greek_Thessaly # 12.846795
5 Moldavian # 14.662697
6 Croatian # 18.120214
7 Hungarian # 19.688803
8 Central_Greek # 20.095533
9 Italian_Abruzzo # 20.997726
10 Tuscan # 21.498177
11 East_Sicilian # 21.527481
12 Ashkenazi # 22.384954
13 West_Sicilian # 22.454115
14 North_Italian # 23.181885
15 Austrian # 23.972969
16 Ukrainian_Lviv # 24.658941
17 South_Italian # 25.204275
18 East_German # 25.717163
19 Ukrainian # 25.813641
20 South_Polish # 25.855309

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian_Jewish +50% Ukrainian_Belgorod # 4.727033

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Cyprian +25% Lithuanian # 3.269141

Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Cyprian + Lithuanian # 3.269141
2 Central_Greek + Cyprian + Southwest_Russian + Ukrainian # 3.610872
3 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Cyprian + Estonian_Polish # 3.703872
4 Central_Greek + Cyprian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Belgorod # 3.726942
5 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Cyprian # 3.740874
6 Central_Greek + Cyprian + Estonian_Polish + Ukrainian # 3.779105
7 Ashkenazi + Cyprian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Belgorod # 3.784714
8 Central_Greek + Cyprian + Southwest_Russian + Southwest_Russian # 3.827983
9 Bulgarian + Cyprian + Lithuanian + Romanian # 3.830221
10 Croatian + Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Southwest_Russian # 3.836497

Regards!
 
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