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So I did my GED match, so I will list off the results. So originally we are turkish, so I am not sure how close this is to turkish ancestry as this is a little confusing. Eurasia K10 CHG Admixture Proportions CHG I am 19.31, SW Asian 10, Anatolian farmer 18, EHG I am 15, who 39 PERCENT.MDLP K16 Modern Admixture Proportions Steppe 22 percent, Indian .12 percent, Caucasian 20 percent east Africa .17 percent North east European 24.56 percent Near east 3 percent neolithic 30 percent and North Africa 2 percent. So what does this all mean also where is neolithic someone said Greece, and Turkey?
 
Can you post HarappaWorld from GedMatch?
 
Can you post HarappaWorld from GedMatch?

Yes I will post them now Harappaworld NE Europe which really surprised me was 44 percent. Baloch is 10 percent. Caucasian is 11 percent.Mediterranean is 31 percent. SW Asia is at 4 percent. So it seems that obviously the Middle East or eastern blood is more. I am not sure exactly if Turkey would be considered under Mediterranean or caucasian. Also my Eurogenes K13 mixture is North Atlanta 44 percent, baltic 22 percent, west med is 15, west asian is 10, east med is 8 percent, Red Sea is 3, and North Africa is 1. Yet when I look at some of the other ones my Caucasian and south Asia will be at like 30 or high 20 percent. Also my EUtest is east Europe 10 percent, south baltic is 10, north Central Europe 29, Atlanta 23 percent, west med is 13, east med is 10, west asian is 6, Middle East is 2. So it seems like I am basically half and half. Half European, and then half eurasian?
 
Weirdest thing, are you are sure that your parents and grandparents are from Turkey. Your HarappaWorld run says that you are Northern/Central European!

Check if you've punched in your Kit number correctly. Or maybe there was a mishap in the lab? Or you were adopted. ;)
 
Weirdest thing, are you are sure that your parents and grandparents are from Turkey. Your HarappaWorld run says that you are Northern/Central European!

Check if you've punched in your Kit number correctly. Or maybe there was a mishap in the lab?

I mean my last name is Gündoğdu it does not get much more turkish then this. It seems like it is split as it says 31 percent med. 11 caucasus 10 baloch and 4 asian. It seems like it is more split 50/50 almost. Eurasia K10 CHG Admixture Proportions CHG I am 19.31, SW Asian 10, Anatolian farmer 18, EHG I am 15, who 39 PERCENT wouldn't these numbers be more representative of someone from the Southern Europe region then northern Central Europe?
 
Population
Amerindian-
Ancestral_Altaic3.77
South_Central_Asian4.11
Arctic-
South_Indian-
Australoid-
Austronesian0.17
Caucasian22.76
Archaic_Human0.18
East_African-
East_Siberian-
European_Early_Farmers28.20
Khoisan-
Melano_Polynesian-
Archaic_African0.07
Near_East5.03
North_African2.19
Paleo_Siberian-
African_Pygmy-
South_East_Asian-
Subsaharian-
Tungus-Altaic-
European_Hunters_Gatherers33.50

My K23 has high amount of caucasian though. I do not understand this. it seems like it is split half and half. Between asian countries and then just north Western Europe.
 
Nope, it is not half and half split. You look nothing like Turk, not even half Turk. It is not your DNA, or kit number, or must be some other problem.
Go there and check your numbers against populations, and there is explanation of components:
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...e-your-admixtures-to-ancient-and-contemporary

You can also learn a lot here:
http://www.eupedia.com/genetics/

Without this basic knowledge all is confusing about taxonomy of admixtures. They are all based on people who lived 7 thousand years ago, not today. For example Anatolian Farmer lived in "Turkey" 7 thousand years ago, from there they migrated to Europe. Nowadays Europe has more Anatolian Farmer ancestry than Turkey. Since then, Turkey was invaded by Indo Europeans from the Seppe, Turkish tribes from the steppe, Arabs from south, Caucasian and Iranian tribes, and so on. Turkish DNA now is very different than ancient Anatolian Farmer.
NE European admixture is based on hunter gatherer who lived in Europe long time ago, also known as WHG and EHG.
Caucasian admixture is mostly based on CHG, Caucasus Hunter Gatherer and also Iranian Farmer. CHG is the top admixture for Turks, but not in your case. Your level of CHG is Northern European. Your NE Euro is of Central Europe level. So is Baloch, Med and SW Asian.
Average Turk has also few percent of Siberia and NE Asian admixture, which you have 0. Zero for both is more typical for Europeans again, except Russians and Finns.

That's why I'm saying that it is not your DNA.

Unless..., you are from Northern Turkey from some secluded village in the mountains, which was isolated from the world since middle ages and was originally settled by Goths or other Europeans. I'm open to possibilities, with this far fetched idea.
 
Nope, it is not half and half split. You look nothing like Turk, not even half Turk. It is not your DNA, or kit number, or must be some other problem.
Go there and check your numbers against populations, and there is explanation of components:
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...e-your-admixtures-to-ancient-and-contemporary

You can also learn a lot here:
http://www.eupedia.com/genetics/

Without this basic knowledge all is confusing about taxonomy of admixtures. They are all based on people who lived 7 thousand years ago, not today. For example Anatolian Farmer lived in "Turkey" 7 thousand years ago, from there they migrated to Europe. Nowadays Europe has more Anatolian Farmer ancestry than Turkey. Since then, Turkey was invaded by Indo Europeans from the Seppe, Turkish tribes from the steppe, Arabs from south, Caucasian and Iranian tribes, and so on. Turkish DNA now is very different than ancient Anatolian Farmer.
NE European admixture is based on hunter gatherer who lived in Europe long time ago, also known as WHG and EHG.
Caucasian admixture is mostly based on CHG, Caucasus Hunter Gatherer and also Iranian Farmer. CHG is the top admixture for Turks, but not in your case. Your level of CHG is Northern European. Your NE Euro is of Central Europe level. So is Baloch, Med and SW Asian.

That's why I'm saying that it is not your DNA.

Unless..., you are from Northern Turkey from some secluded village in the mountains, which was isolated from the world since middle ages and was originally settled by Goths or other Europeans. I'm open to possibilities, with this far fetched idea.

Yes I will find out, as my mom if you saw here picture in my post does not look European at all. I think I look more Caucasian then Turkish, but this would make sense because we lived close to the Black Sea. So in the caucasian area, but I think the admixture is too much. Why would my Mediterranean be so high almost 30 percent in my Harappa. Wouldn't that be more split like one of my parents must of had family from Europe while another must have had family more from the Mediterranean area. Sorry for all the questions these tests are kind of confusing. I mean I do not think a Central European would have 30 percent Harappa or 10 percent caucasian for a Central European that still seems high percentages. It seems like almost one of my parent were split. Also one more question. Is Harappa world what is closest to the DNA inside you right now. As you said the other Anatolian blood, and these kind of things are older. So the harpppaworld is what is more recent?
 
Can you post your Dodecade K12b results? And your Dodecade K7b results?
 
Can you post your Dodecade K12b results? And your Dodecade K7b results?

K7B results are here

Population
South_Asian0.12
West_Asian14.05
Siberian-
African0.48
Southern18.18
Atlantic_Baltic67.16
East_Asian-

k12b results
Population
Gedrosia8.94
Siberian-
Northwest_African1.67
Southeast_Asian-
Atlantic_Med36.28
North_European38.83
South_Asian-
East_African0.26
Southwest_Asian3.80
East_Asian-
Caucasus10.22
Sub_Saharan-

These make more since 9 percent Gedroasia, 2 percent North Africa, 37 Atlantic med which I do not know what countries are included in that, southwest Asia, and caucasus 10. So I think here this is deff showing more eurasian blood then Central European blood, but I really don't know? What do you think? It seems more like I am 50/50 split between the east and Europe.
 
Are sure those results are yours? Those results are definitely European. They are most similar to France. The results aren't similar to Greeks or anyone in Russia. I don't how you could be a Turkish person with heavy European admixture if no Europeans near Turkey are similar to you.

Those results are nearly identical to mine....All my ancestry is from somewhere in Western Europe, not near Turkey.
Gedrosia 6.03
Siberian 1.75
Northwest_African 0.31
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 36.88
North_European 36.52
South_Asian 1.13
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.18
East_Asian 0.27
Caucasus 12.94
Sub_Saharan 1.97
 
Are sure those results are yours? Those results are definitely European. They are most similar to France. The results aren't similar to Greeks or anyone in Russia. I don't how you could be a Turkish person with heavy European admixture if no Europeans near Turkey are similar to you.

Those results are nearly identical to mine....All my ancestry is from somewhere in Western Europe, not near Turkey.
Gedrosia 6.03
Siberian 1.75
Northwest_African 0.31
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 36.88
North_European 36.52
South_Asian 1.13
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.18
East_Asian 0.27
Caucasus 12.94
Sub_Saharan 1.97

So I had oracle 4 break it down, and I am getting a lot of ex yugslovia admixture. So Albanian, Hungarian, Bosnian, Serbian, Bulgarian so what I am thinking is that probably we were in that region when the ottomans conquered, and then moved to Turkey. As for the other part European I am still trying to work out. I guess one of my parents is mixed. Is what I am thinking. Even you saw my pictures I do not look like a typical European besides hair colour and skin complexion, but my facial features are not of that Central Europe. So I guess I just need to have my parents do it.

Corded_Ware_LN + Norwegian + Stuttgart + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.520135
BA_Sintashta + Norwegian + Stuttgart + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.520135
Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.811985

BA_Sintashta + Norwegian + Stuttgart + Turks_Adana @ 3.940125
 
Unless..., you are from Northern Turkey from some secluded village in the mountains, which was isolated from the world since middle ages and was originally settled by Goths or other Europeans. I'm open to possibilities, with this far fetched idea.

Would if he is Galatian? I do remember that Turks from what used to be Galatia had the strongest pull towards Europe in D-stats.
 
tahir0010 can you provide your GEDmatch kit ID #? What company did you test your DNA with? 23andme, FTDNA, AncestryDNA?
 
Would if he is Galatian? I do remember that Turks from what used to be Galatia had the strongest pull towards Europe in D-stats.
Nay, he looks so European that he can't be even mixed. If his father was from central European and his mother was an average Turk he would plot somewhere in Balkans, but he plots in France, North/Central/West European. No chance this is his kit number or his DNA was swapped in the lab.
 
he plots in France, North/Central/West European. No chance this is his kit number or his DNA was swapped in the lab.

That's the thing. His results are most similar to NorthEast France, South Netherlands, West Germany. That is exactly where Galatians probably clustered. What are the chances he happened to pick up a French GEDmatch ID or an American who's the perfect mix?

No chance this is his kit number or his DNA was swapped in the lab.

Yeah, I still think that is case. Hopefully there's a way to find an answer.
 
Nay, he looks so European that he can't be even mixed. If his father was from central European and his mother was an average Turk he would plot somewhere in Balkans, but he plots in France, North/Central/West European. No chance this is his kit number or his DNA was swapped in the lab.

Yes I do not know what is going on I am not sure if you have seen my mom, but I put her in one of the guess me, and my mom does not look European at all. So I am not sure what is going on. I tested with ancestry, and I am not sure how accurate they are I have heard mixed things about them, but my ancestry had high balkans, Middle East, and Italy/Greece. Not so much the caucuses which would make sense considering my mom is middle eastern. We have Kurdish blood even though we live near Caucasian mountains now. So what does all this mean
Corded_Ware_LN + Norwegian + Stuttgart + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.520135
BA_Sintashta + Norwegian + Stuttgart + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.520135
Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.811985

BA_Sintashta + Norwegian + Stuttgart + Turks_Adana @ 3.940125
 
Yes I do not know what is going on I am not sure if you have seen my mom, but I put her in one of the guess me, and my mom does not look European at all. So I am not sure what is going on. I tested with ancestry, and I am not sure how accurate they are I have heard mixed things about them, but my ancestry had high balkans, Middle East, and Italy/Greece. Not so much the caucuses which would make sense considering my mom is middle eastern. We have Kurdish blood even though we live near Caucasian mountains now. So what does all this mean
Corded_Ware_LN + Norwegian + Stuttgart + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.520135
BA_Sintashta + Norwegian + Stuttgart + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.520135
Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Stuttgart + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.811985

BA_Sintashta + Norwegian + Stuttgart + Turks_Adana @ 3.940125
Don't you worry, will find an answer. Send your kit # to FireHaired, also contact the company and demand double checking.
 
Okay so it seems like we are more mixed then we thought my mother side is balkan, arab, and turkish, and my dad side is north Russian so near Scandinavia, European, and middle eastern. I had to compare my parents DNA. even my secondary population for my k7 was high in med.
#Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
169.8%Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)+ 30.2%O_Italian (Dodecad)@ 0.39
283.3%German (Dodecad)+ 16.7%Morocco_Jews (Behar)@ 0.43
380.9%Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)+ 19.1%Sicilian (Dodecad)@ 0.43
484.1%Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)+ 15.9%Sephardic_Jews (Behar)@ 0.44
580.4%Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)+ 19.6%S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)@ 0.5
689.2%German (Dodecad)+ 10.8%Yemen_Jews (Behar)@ 0.51
759.6%Orkney (1000Genomes)+ 40.4%O_Italian (Dodecad)@ 0.51
866.1%CEU30 (1000Genomes)+ 33.9%O_Italian (Dodecad)@ 0.54
961.8%Irish (Dodecad)+ 38.2%O_Italian (Dodecad)@ 0.55
1072.4%Orkney (1000Genomes)+ 27.6%S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)@ 0.58
1174.2%Irish (Dodecad)+ 25.8%S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)@ 0.58
1274.7%Irish (Dodecad)+ 25.3%Sicilian (Dodecad)@ 0.58
1373%Orkney (1000Genomes)+ 27%Sicilian (Dodecad)@ 0.59
1481.4%Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)+ 18.6%Ashkenazi (Dodecad)@ 0.59
1568.4%German (Dodecad)+ 31.6%O_Italian (Dodecad)@ 0.59
1681.4%Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)+ 18.6%Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)@ 0.59
1778.1%CEU30 (1000Genomes)+ 21.9%Sicilian (Dodecad)@ 0.61
1883.5%English (Dodecad)+ 16.5%Cypriots (Behar)@ 0.62
1985.6%English (Dodecad)+ 14.4%Druze (HGDP)@ 0.63
2076.6%Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)+ 23.4%C_Italian (Dodecad)@ 0.63
K12
# Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance1 82.3%Dutch (Dodecad)+ 17.7%Morocco_Jews (Behar)@ 0.952 82.4%Dutch (Dodecad)+ 17.6%Sephardic_Jews (Behar)@ 1.013 85.2%Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)+ 14.8%Morocco_Jews (Behar)@ 1.444 80.9%Dutch (Dodecad)+ 19.1%Ashkenazi (Dodecad)@ 1.525 85.7%CEU30 (1000Genomes)+ 14.3%Samaritians (Behar)@ 1.646 81%Dutch (Dodecad)+ 19%Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)@ 1.697 81.6%British_Isles (Dodecad)+ 18.4%Lebanese (Behar)@ 1.78 85.4%Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)+ 14.6%Sephardic_Jews (Behar)@ 1.719 80.1%Dutch (Dodecad)+ 19.9%Sicilian (Dodecad)@ 1.7210 83%British_Isles (Dodecad)+ 17%Druze (HGDP)@ 1.7211 74%Orkney (1000Genomes)+ 26%Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)@ 1.7412 87.4%Dutch (Dodecad)+ 12.6%Samaritians (Behar)@ 1.7513 73.9%Orkney (1000Genomes)+ 26.1%Ashkenazi (Dodecad)@ 1.7914 86.6%Dutch (Dodecad)+ 13.4%Druze (HGDP)@ 1.8115 80.2%Dutch (Dodecad)+ 19.8%S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)@ 1.8116 85.6%English (Dodecad)+ 14.4%Samaritians (Behar)@ 1.8117 89.6%Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)+ 10.4%Samaritians (Behar)@ 1.8118 84%Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)+ 16%Ashkenazi (Dodecad)@ 1.8219 85.5%Dutch (Dodecad)+ 14.5%Lebanese (Behar)@ 1.8620 85.3%Dutch (Dodecad)+ 14.7%Cypriots (Behar)@ 1.9
MY MDLP world is highly balkanized

MDLP 22 is
#Population (source)Distance1Serbian (derived)4.032German-South (derived)5.163Montenegrin (derived)5.254Macedonian (derived)6.285German_V (derived)7.026Austrian (derived)7.167Bosnian (derived)8.098Hungarian (derived)8.189CEU (derived)8.3610CEU_V (derived)8.3911Bulgarian (derived)8.512Croatian (derived)8.8913British (derived)8.9214Swiss (derived)915Welsh (derived)9.4816Romania (derived)10.3717French (derived)10.4118Orcadian (derived)10.4119Slovenian (derived)10.5420Norwegian_V (derived)10.94
#Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
184%German_V (derived)+ 16%Jew_Francestrale (derived)@ 0.97
285.2%German_V (derived)+ 14.8%Sephardim (derived)@ 0.98
384.3%German_V (derived)+ 15.7%Jew_Italia (derived)@ 1.01
463.8%Macedonian (derived)+ 36.2%Norwegian_V (derived)@ 1.06
570.7%German-North (derived)+ 29.3%Italian-South (derived)@ 1.12
685.6%German_V (derived)+ 14.4%Jew_Algeria (derived)@ 1.14
784.3%CEU_V (derived)+ 15.7%Cypriot (derived)@ 1.14
875.7%CEU_V (derived)+ 24.3%Jew_Romania (derived)@ 1.15
970%CEU_V (derived)+ 30%Ashkenazim_V (derived)@ 1.16
1071.8%CEU_V (derived)+ 28.2%Greek_South (derived)@ 1.17
1169.3%German-North (derived)+ 30.7%Italian-Center (derived)@ 1.17
1280.5%CEU_V (derived)+ 19.5%Greek_Cretan (derived)@ 1.19
1368.1%Montenegrin (derived)+ 31.9%Norwegian_V (derived)@ 1.22
1472.2%German-North (derived)+ 27.8%Sicilian (derived)@ 1.24
1585.1%German_V (derived)+ 14.9%Jew_Morocco (derived)@ 1.25
1685.9%German_V (derived)+ 14.1%Jew_Tunisia (derived)@ 1.26
1786.4%German_V (derived)+ 13.6%Jew_Libya (derived)@ 1.28
1881.7%German_V (derived)+ 18.3%Sicilian (derived)@ 1.28
1976%CEU_V (derived)+ 24%Greek_East (derived)@ 1.28
2084.3%CEU_V (derived)+ 15.7%Jew_Syria (derived)@ 1.29

MDLP World is
#Population (source)Distance
1Bosnian1.76
2Croatian2.95
3Serbian3.53
4Hungarian4.48
5Austrian4.99
6German-South5.6
7German_V5.95
8Slovenian6.3
9Montenegrin6.31
10Macedonian6.71
11CEU_V7.76
12CEU8.51
13Croatian_V8.56
14Swiss8.62
15British8.83
16Czech9.06
17Bulgarian9.24
18Welsh9.42
19German9.51
20Orcadian9.69

#Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
171.3%German-North+ 28.7%Italian-Center@ 0.71
260%Macedonian+ 40%German-North@ 0.79
373.3%German-North+ 26.7%Italian-South@ 0.8
454.8%Croatian+ 45.2%Serbian@ 0.84
568.9%Croatian+ 31.1%Montenegrin@ 0.85
687.5%German_V+ 12.5%Jew_Tunisia@ 0.88
785%Bosnian+ 15%Swiss@ 0.9
870.8%Montenegrin+ 29.2%Sorb@ 0.91
976.7%German_V+ 23.3%Ashkenazim_V@ 0.91
1087.4%Bosnian+ 12.6%Provancal@ 0.92
1184.1%Serbian+ 15.9%Polish_V@ 0.93
1287.9%German_V+ 12.1%Jew_Libya@ 0.95
1371.8%German-North+ 28.2%Greek_East@ 0.95
1481.7%Serbian+ 18.3%Sorb@ 0.96
1574.3%Montenegrin+ 25.7%Polish_V@ 0.96
1670.5%German-North+ 29.5%Greek_Center@ 0.96
1752%Bulgarian+ 48%German-North@ 0.97
1888.3%Serbian+ 11.7%Lithuanian_V@ 0.97
1967.3%Swedish+ 32.7%Greek_East@ 0.97
2096.2%Bosnian+ 3.8%Gok4@ 0.97

It seems like we are way more balkan then we are turk, but we also have high amounts of Cypriot.. So I wonder if we have roots from Anatolia. Yet it seems like I could plot somewhere in the balkans though doesn't it? I never though this would be so weird even my dna land was 20 percent Antalya, and Cypriot area. Then we had high areas in the balkans, and levantine mediterranean. So I do not know what to consider myself now am I half European, and half balkan. I mean I know its not quiet half/half it seems more 60/40 but it is easier doing half/half. So what would you guys say. This has blown my mind I do not know what I am anymore lol.
 
Nope, your parents couldn't possibly give you the DNA you are sharing with us. Are you really being honest with us?
 

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