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Thread: Sea Peoples Origin Hypotheses Poll

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    Question Sea Peoples Origin Hypotheses Poll



    These are the mysterious sea invaders that are theorized by historians to have destroyed ancient civilization, and brought the world into a dark age. The effects of this destruction is comparable to the fall of Rome, that happened over one thousand five hundred years later. Vote for which hypothesis is most likely.

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    Last edited by Jovialis; 13-05-17 at 18:39.

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    The sea people were depicted by the Egyptians to have horned helmets.

    The sea peoples are theorized by historians to have destroyed the known civilizations of the Eastern Mediterranean. In addition to a perfect storm of events in the region, such as famine, and massive earthquakes. During the dark ages, writing, building large structures, and other developments of civilization were lost. Contact between a vast network of commutation spanning across the known world from across the eastern Mediterranean, and the middle east were lost. No more was there trade, of items, like copper, until centuries later. The only surviving civilization out of nine others, was Egypt, that managed to win two Pyrrhic victories against the sea peoples. This is what caused the downfall of the Egyptian civilization overtime.
    of the Egyptian civilization overtime.


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    there were many people involved, not just one
    the poll doesn't allow multiple choices, it's wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by bicicleur View Post
    there were many people involved, not just one
    the poll doesn't allow multiple choices, it's wrong
    Sorry for that, is there a way to edit the poll?

    If not, would other suffice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Sorry for that, is there a way to edit the poll?

    If not, would other suffice?
    Only Maciamo can change this. Try PM him.
    Be wary of people who tend to glorify the past, underestimate the present, and demonize the future.

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    I favor the Italian hypothesis. The so called Central European influences in Greece during the Late Bronze Age (Barbarian Ware, Violin Bow fibula etc.) in the past linked with the Dorian invasion are actually of Italic signature (R.Peroni 2004). So there are proofs that small contingents of mercenaries from Italy/Sicily/Sardinia were present in Greece-Crete but also in Cyprus (Pyla) at that time.

    Some Sea peoples were probably of Greek origin though, like the Peleset

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    They are constructed partly. Imo they could have been Greek, Anatolian and maybe Italic speakers. I don't believe it is correct to say 'Sea Peoples' destroyed any ancient civilzation. There were famines, wars, internal conflicts, invasions, migrations.
    There was no Dorian invasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    Only Maciamo can change this. Try PM him.
    I Just sent him one now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Papadimitriou View Post
    There was no Dorian invasion.
    IMO Dorians did migrate south, but they came from Epirus not from outside Greece...however someone think that the dorian tribe of the Illei was of Illyrian origin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post


    The sea people were depicted by the Egyptians to have horned helmets.

    The sea peoples are theorized by historians to have destroyed the known civilizations of the Eastern Mediterranean. In addition to a perfect storm of events in the region, such as famine, and massive earthquakes. During the dark ages, writing, building large structures, and other developments of civilization were lost. Contact between a vast network of commutation spanning across the known world from across the eastern Mediterranean, and the middle east were lost. No more was there trade, of items, like copper, until centuries later. The only surviving civilization out of nine others, was Egypt, that managed to win two Pyrrhic victories against the sea peoples. This is what caused the downfall of the Egyptian civilization overtime.
    of the Egyptian civilization overtime.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DNyA90f_aw


    this is the current theory
    http://luwianstudies.org/sea-peoples...s-excavations/
    có che un pòpoło no 'l defende pi ła só łéngua el xe prónto par èser s'ciavo

    when a people no longer dares to defend its language it is ripe for slavery.

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    They had a very interesting patch-work of Hellenistic armor. I think it very well could have been a large naval confederation of Italics from Sardinia, Sicily, and Etruria, as well as, the Philistines, various other Greeks, and Anatolians.

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    IMO many came from the Aegean area, in fact the Filistines did.
    Then there is the desintegration of the Hittite federation starting after the Kadesh battle, and probably famine in certain areas of Anatolia.

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    Eric Cline's thesis seems to have a lot of truth in it. I have recently seen these lectures and I must say I felt that his theory makes sense. At the end of the day, what one should keep in mind is that the great migration of the Sea Peoples was a multifaceted phenomenon.

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