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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    don't be so sure,

    I am expecting a group from Greece to be next to them,
    Now, don't be coy. Which group and why?


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    Well Sardinia can be in a cluster separate from the top one. All I was showing were micro clusters within Mediterranean Europe, With the South West, and East Med divide, with a intermediate group having either Atlantic/Slavic and West Asian....Based on about every GEDmatch oracle I have ever seen, not sure why this is such a radical idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Englander View Post
    So than its:

    Spain
    Portugal
    Northern Italy
    Sardinia

    Bulgaria
    Tuscany
    Central Italy
    Thessalians
    Albania

    Central greece
    Ashkenazi
    South Italians/West Sicily
    Crete / Sparta
    East Sicily/Sephardi Jews

    Cyprus/Anatolian Greeks

    Actually the right cataloging of the samples judging by the spreadsheet is the following:

    http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape...4535&t=5673629

    Basque
    Spain
    Bergamo
    Portugal
    Tuscany/Bulgaria
    Albania
    Thessaly
    Abruzzo/West Sicily
    Central Greece/East Sicily
    South Italy (actually only Calabria)
    Ashkenazi
    Sephardi
    Cyprus
    Sicilians and mainlander Southern Italian phenotype galleries.

    http://italicroots.lefora.com/topic/1111/Re-Groups-of-Sicilians
    http://italicroots.lefora.com/topic/375/Southern-italians-how-we-really-look

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    I will give everyone an hour to copy their off-topic material to the Balkanian disagreements thread. After that it's all deleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LABERIA View Post
    The influence of Tosk Albanians in South Balcan during the history, i mean at least in the last millenium, is enormus. From Shkumbin river to the greek islands was Toskëri.
    Quote Originally Posted by DuPidh View Post
    we are not disagreeing for anything. We are contributing in clarifying the topic of Greek autosomal large discrepancies among regions of Greece, and suggesting that the reason behind this is because if Greek genetics is taken into account, Greece is not a country. Greece is actually a collection of Balkan populations, an accidental creation of Big Powers of 19 century. So there is no point of talking about Greek genetics. And there is not room for subjectivity for what I am saying. Everything is documented from Greeks themselves.
    Not sure what Albanian national mythology has to do with this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I will give everyone an hour to copy their off-topic material to the Balkanian disagreements thread. After that it's all deleted.
    There are two Albanian users who do this to every Balkan-related thread. It will just keep happening, you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    Greek Thessalians are somewhat closer to Tuscans (the Tuscan dot is based on southern Tuscans though), but not the rest of Greek mainlanders.


    @Pax

    if what you said before is certain,

    start thinking about what I say long time ago

    Thessaly is also known as Pelasgian Argos

    and many ancient writers connect Lemnos and other Pelasgian areas with Thyrrenians,

    is that possible (not certain, but possible) by the genetics you post?
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    My bad, was typing.

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    I'm assuming we cross posted, so I 'm giving you a pass, but it's the last one on this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LATGAL View Post
    My bad, was typing.
    Don't worry, something was saved :

    Quote Originally Posted by LATGAL View Post
    Not sure what Albanian national mythology has to do with this thread.



    There are two Albanian users who do this to every Balkan-related thread. It will just keep happening, you know.

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    I belive even the question of the thread is stupid. Ofcourse central greece and peloponnese would clouster better with the aegean islands and north greece than anyone else.They belong to the same nation.
    (Do you new englander have dna results from sparta that you use on your classification or you just meant laconia?If you do as a spartan i whould be really intersted in them.But if you meant laconia why should be as a whole different than the rest of peloponnese?Arcadia and argolis seems to share even less ancestry with france for example, even if laconia have within her a population (mani)that do not clust with no one like sardinia.)
    If this is an excuse to make an north to south clasification then just say it clear.But even in that case why do you compare states with regions?

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    I just meant Sparta as in Southern mainland Greece, or Laconia. I pretty much base what I know on GEDmatch results, and it seems that as someone who charts as 75% Ashkenazim, and 25% Swedish most of the time, I consistently cluster in Southern mainland Greece and Abruzzo, Italy. I than get Sicilian, Jewish, Turkish, and than Northern Italy and Spain. Sometimes I end with Cyprus. My point is, that its not hard to see what groups go with what if we are only concerned with similarities in admixture.

    As far as Sardinia, I'm not sure what you mean, but they might group with Baskids somehow, I'm not sure.

    Now, Im sure most Greeks have direct ancestry in common, but of course there will be regional variations. Some Greeks with have much more in common with Bulgarians, while others will have more in common with Cyprus and whatever groups are close to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Englander View Post
    I just meant Sparta as in Southern mainland Greece, or Laconia. I pretty much base what I know on GEDmatch results, and it seems that as someone who charts as 75% Ashkenazim, and 25% Swedish most of the time, I consistently cluster in Southern mainland Greece and Abruzzo, Italy. I than get Sicilian, Jewish, Turkish, and than Northern Italy and Spain. Sometimes I end with Cyprus. My point is, that its not hard to see what groups go with what if we are only concerned with similarities in admixture.

    As far as Sardinia, I'm not sure what you mean, but they might group with Baskids somehow, I'm not sure.

    Now, Im sure most Greeks have direct ancestry in common, but of course there will be regional variations. Some Greeks with have much more in common with Bulgarians, while others will have more in common with Cyprus and whatever groups are close to them.
    yes there will be regional variations but they will cluster amongst them anyhow.So the question of the thread are central and peloponnesean greeks clustered with cretan and aegean greeks? is a pointless question ofcourse they do! As for the sardinian part what i meant is that mani is like the sardinians in the sense that they are a case of isolated population like the reggio calabria greeks of bova that differs from their neighbours because of the isolation.In fact if you see the paper on peloponnese you will see in the suplementary information that they share the lowest percentage of dna with the italians amongst all peloponnesean populations and not the highest like the rest of the laconians.
    But i did not uderstand you have a series of resuls in gedmatch specific for laconias?If you have i would like to see them.

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    Messinian

    Here's mine (SW Pelop)
    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 27.31
    2 North_Atlantic 22.16
    3 West_Med 20.22
    4 Baltic 14.81
    5 West_Asian 11.9
    6 Red_Sea 3
    7 Amerindian 0.61
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    Most common patterns tend to be: Northern Mainland Greece shifts towards Bulgaria and Southern Balkans Southern Mainland makes a gate between Northern Mainland and Greek Islands Greek Islands make a gate between Southern Mainland and Cyprus Cyprus makes a gate between Greek Islands and Anatolia/Northern Levant

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    Could you please provide a Thessalian sample.

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    Greek from Thessaly:


    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 20.08
    2 Baltic 16.76
    3 West_Med 13.33
    4 West_Asian 13.25
    5 Atlantic 12.49
    6 North_Sea 11.85
    7 Eastern_Euro 6.76
    8 Red_Sea 3.55


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Bulgarian @ 6.201607
    2 Greek_Thessaly @ 7.703343
    3 Greek @ 8.452314
    4 Romanian @ 8.989216
    5 Central_Greek @ 13.355317
    6 Ashkenazi @ 13.375912
    7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 14.126357
    8 Serbian @ 14.146462
    9 East_Sicilian @ 14.518414
    10 Tuscan @ 15.491569
    11 West_Sicilian @ 16.513288
    12 South_Italian @ 17.361965
    13 Moldavian @ 18.105959
    14 North_Italian @ 19.502514
    15 Croatian @ 20.604506
    16 Hungarian @ 21.546749
    17 Austrian @ 21.826361
    18 Italian_Jewish @ 22.274914
    19 Sephardic_Jewish @ 22.820105
    20 Algerian_Jewish @ 23.602068

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bulgarian +50% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.493837


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Central_Greek +25% Central_Greek +25% Lithuanian @ 3.223526
    Last edited by curiouscat; 15-08-17 at 16:52.

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    I haven't seen any Pelopennisian results to compare to Thessalians and/or Central Grreks. I believe that there might be sections of the the peninsula that may, on average cluster north of Thessaly. Would these be outliers? I've always contended that there was a pretty significant Slavic admixture in portions of the Pelop.

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    Here are results of Greeks from samples that I got. According to this, there is not much difference between Greeks on mainland.
    Europeans # of samples S-Indian Baloch Caucasian NE-Euro SE-Asian Siberian NE-Asian Papuan American Beringian Mediterranean SW-Asian San E-African Pygmy W-African
    Greece, mainland 15 0 8 31 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 26 9 0 0 0 0
    Greece, Macedonia 5 0 8 31 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 25 9 0 0 0 0
    Greece, Peloponnese 5 0 9 31 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 26 9 0 0 0 0
    Other mainland 5 0 7 30 26 0 0 0 0 0 0 26 9 0 0 0 0
    Greece, Ionian 2 0 9 34 18 0 0 0 0 0 0 26 12 0 0 0 0
    Greek, Islands, East 13 0 9 38 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 23 14 0 0 0 0
    Greek, island and mainland average 0 8 34 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 24 11 0 0 0 0
    Cyprus 4 1 10 44 6 1 0 0 0 0 0 20 17 0 0 0 0
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    Quote Originally Posted by matadworf View Post
    I haven't seen any Pelopennisian results to compare to Thessalians and/or Central Grreks. I believe that there might be sections of the the peninsula that may, on average cluster north of Thessaly. Would these be outliers? I've always contended that there was a pretty significant Slavic admixture in portions of the Pelop.
    Peloponnesian from Korinthos

    #
    Population Percent
    1 East_Med 25.45
    2 West_Med 18.81
    3 West_Asian 16.01
    4 North_Sea 13.81
    5 Atlantic 8.95
    6 Baltic 8.25
    7 Red_Sea 4.13
    8 Eastern_Euro 3.16
    9 Southeast_Asian 1.13


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Central_Greek @ 6.261033
    2 Greek_Thessaly @ 7.228187
    3 East_Sicilian @ 7.569451
    4 Ashkenazi @ 8.438622
    5 South_Italian @ 9.444893
    6 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.470657
    7 Greek @ 10.700311
    8 West_Sicilian @ 12.387382
    9 Tuscan @ 13.703315
    10 Italian_Jewish @ 13.977630
    11 Sephardic_Jewish @ 15.965655
    12 Algerian_Jewish @ 16.239784
    13 Bulgarian @ 16.878223
    14 Romanian @ 18.867550
    15 Libyan_Jewish @ 19.267750
    16 Tunisian_Jewish @ 19.992113
    17 North_Italian @ 20.263763
    18 Cyprian @ 20.644209
    19 Turkish @ 22.086815
    20 Serbian @ 22.834698

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Central_Greek +50% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.122398


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Central_Greek +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.122398

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    Ok these are K 12 averages and only Central Greeks and Thessalians were included on the spreadsheet. I was curious because the three elements considered as Nothern shifting; Baltic, West Med and Northern Atlantic were a bit higher in my profile than the Thessalian avg. and my family is full Southern mainland. I guess I would just be on the high end of the Pelop. avg. for NE or NW shifted.

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    Post your Harappa admixtures from GEDmatch and I can tell you how you fit with other Peloponnese samples that I have.
    In this thread:
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    Other Greek results

    Symrna, Asia Minor
    #
    Population Percent
    1 East_Med 33.88
    2 West_Med 18.52
    3 West_Asian 16.63
    4 North_Sea 9.89
    5 Atlantic 8.20
    6 Red_Sea 6.60
    7 Baltic 3.23
    8 Eastern_Euro 2.59


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Italian_Jewish @ 7.405468
    2 South_Italian @ 8.050717
    3 Sephardic_Jewish @ 9.217436
    4 Algerian_Jewish @ 9.542070
    5 Central_Greek @ 9.649453
    6 East_Sicilian @ 9.654523
    7 Ashkenazi @ 10.559334
    8 Cyprian @ 11.008551
    9 Libyan_Jewish @ 11.217402
    10 Tunisian_Jewish @ 11.835511
    11 Italian_Abruzzo @ 13.327325
    12 West_Sicilian @ 14.023601
    13 Lebanese_Muslim @ 15.398743
    14 Syrian @ 16.311251
    15 Greek_Thessaly @ 16.428387
    16 Greek @ 16.898632
    17 Samaritan @ 18.113977
    18 Lebanese_Christian @ 19.536530
    19 Jordanian @ 19.547615
    20 Turkish @ 19.612806

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Central_Greek +50% Cyprian @ 5.189705


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Central_Greek +25% Cyprian +25% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.392044

    Kalymnos

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 35.87
    2 West_Med 18.06
    3 West_Asian 16.19
    4 Atlantic 11.10
    5 Red_Sea 5.52
    6 North_Sea 5.37
    7 Eastern_Euro 2.63
    8 Baltic 2.57
    9 South_Asian 2.20


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.825840
    2 Italian_Jewish @ 7.090623
    3 Algerian_Jewish @ 7.385592
    4 South_Italian @ 8.436271
    5 Cyprian @ 8.575014
    6 Tunisian_Jewish @ 9.172720
    7 East_Sicilian @ 11.356441
    8 Central_Greek @ 11.526863
    9 Libyan_Jewish @ 11.845531
    10 Ashkenazi @ 12.704471
    11 West_Sicilian @ 13.978880
    12 Lebanese_Muslim @ 13.985982
    13 Italian_Abruzzo @ 14.589229
    14 Syrian @ 15.479359
    15 Samaritan @ 16.617407
    16 Greek @ 17.618773
    17 Lebanese_Christian @ 18.073690
    18 Jordanian @ 18.665810
    19 Greek_Thessaly @ 19.186825
    20 Turkish @ 19.215681

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Cyprian +50% South_Italian @ 3.691948


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Sardinian +25% Turkish @ 3.273368


    Laconia

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 26.21
    2 West_Asian 15.88
    3 West_Med 14.90
    4 Atlantic 14.39
    5 North_Sea 11.14
    6 Baltic 10.29
    7 Red_Sea 4.02
    8 Eastern_Euro 2.49


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Central_Greek @ 4.549251
    2 Italian_Abruzzo @ 6.042953
    3 East_Sicilian @ 6.116654
    4 Greek @ 7.254793
    5 South_Italian @ 7.736206
    6 Greek_Thessaly @ 7.985965
    7 Ashkenazi @ 8.031886
    8 West_Sicilian @ 9.450727
    9 Tuscan @ 12.085972
    10 Italian_Jewish @ 13.544551
    11 Sephardic_Jewish @ 14.138050
    12 Bulgarian @ 14.460215
    13 Algerian_Jewish @ 15.464900
    14 Romanian @ 17.041328
    15 Tunisian_Jewish @ 18.499628
    16 North_Italian @ 19.108631
    17 Libyan_Jewish @ 20.338245
    18 Cyprian @ 20.408590
    19 Turkish @ 21.108168
    20 Serbian @ 21.480677

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Central_Greek +50% Greek @ 4.458888


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Central_Greek +25% Romanian +25% South_Italian @ 3.563117

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    Harappa World Admixture
    Population
    S-Indian -
    Baloch 7.62
    Caucasian 29.17
    NE-Euro 25.27
    SE-Asian 0.13
    Siberian -
    NE-Asian -
    Papuan -
    American -
    Beringian 0.84
    Mediterranean 27.28
    SW-Asian 9.65
    San -
    E-African 0.05
    Pygmy -
    W-African. -

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