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It is my opinion that these "pre Celts" are what are jacking up the Iberian component in all the MyHeritage estimates. We have zero Spanish or Portuguese people in our tree, and not even any surnames that sound remotely so which may have been elsewhere first.


Familytreedna reported my partners Southern European as 20% South East Europe. Myheritage has added an extra 10% to this. Her Great Britain in FTDNA has changed to North West/Central Europe at around 22% (was 30% Great Britain and Ireland in FTDNA). Her scandinavian has stayed the same with FTDNA reporting it at 50% only a 2% change. She is primarily English with her dad being a 1/4 Dutch and the rest English as far as he is aware.
 
MeAncestryMyHeritage
Engl/Scot/Welsh69
Irish10
Irish/Scot/Welsh49.1
English5.5
Scandinavian1032.1
Finnish/N. Russ3
Iberian312.1
Euro Jew1
Middle East1.2
Italian/Greek3
W or NW Euro1
BroAncestryMyHeritage
Engl/Scot/Welsh61
Irish14
Irish/Scot/Welsh21.2
English68.2
Scandinavian10
Iberian26.4
Greek1.6
W or NW Euro13
Balkan2.6
MomAncestryMyHeritage
Engl/Scot/Welsh61
Irish13
Irish/Scot/Welsh2.6
English35.2
Scandinavian3
Finnish/N. Russ1
Iberian14.2
Italian/Greek1
Greek
W or NW Euro1958
N. Africa1
DadAncestryMyHeritage
Engl/Scot/Welsh8
Irish30
Irish/Scot/Welsh14.7
English57.8
Scandinavian9
Finnish/N. Russ1
Iberian215.2
Euro Jew2
Italian/Greek3
Greek6.9
W or NW Euro43
Balkan5.4
Caucus1
East Euro1
Mom's momAncestryMyHeritage
Engl/Scot/Welsh78
Irish1
Irish/Scot/Welsh3
English36.8
Scandinavian2
Finnish/N. Russ2
Iberian19.2
Italian/Greek2
Italian3.5
W or NW Euro1442.8


Wow! There are massive inconsistencies!

I find Ancestry.com to be far more accurate based on paper trails. MyHeritage massively inflates Iberian, Green, or Italian. MyHeritage has huge fluctuation of Scandinavian.

My Father's Great Grandmother was Norwegian. Ancestry shows him at 9% and my brother and I at 10% (normal British folks range 1%-9% on Ancestry). MyHeritage gives me a whopping 32.1% Scandi yet my mother shows 0 and my father shows 0. (Yes, MyHeritage can tell by the DNA match that my parents are my bio parents). That is interesting though because I'm very tall in a family of normal sized people and everyone always wonders how the heck that happened.

The breakdowns of English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish and W or NW Euro are also inconsistent and all over the place. Grouping Irish, Scottish, and Welsh together is folly. Scottish and English are closer genetically than north and south Wales. I think MyHeritage is grouping the highlander (more celtic) Scots in with the Irish and Celtic Welsh and Cornish. They must be counting lowland Scots as English. Even so, you can see the wild variations within one family.

I also think Ancestry's old test (my father's) incorrectly attributed some Anglo-Saxon as West European. I'm very close to my father on Eurogenes and other GEDmatch calculators but Ancestry has us scored very differently. I believe the new version of the test is more accurate for discerning the difference.

Interesting but I'm not convinced of their estimate accuracy. I also base this opinion on the many GEDmatch calculators.

Very interesting results, it's pretty interesting and sort of confusing how percentages keep being re-distributed around.
 
My father
East Europe
66.0%

Balkan
56.2%

Baltic
6.5%

East European
3.3%



South Europe
21.8%

Italian
21.8%





Asia
12.2%

West Asia
9.9%

West Asian
9.9%



East Asia
1.6%

Eskimo/Inuit
1.6%



South Asia
0.7%

South Asian
0.7%





100.0%
 
the wait is ogre, here are my results

Europe100.0%


East Europe

64.3%



Balkan

39.4%



East European

24.9%





South Europe

27.7%



Greek

26.3%



Italian

1.4%





Ashkenazi Jewish

8.0%
 
Europe
89.3%
South Europe
44.0%
Greek
41.0%
Italian
3.0%
Iberian
0%
Sardinian
0%
North and West Europe
28.0%
North and West European
28.0%
English
0%
Finnish
0%
Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
0%
Scandinavian
0%
Ashkenazi Jewish
17.3%
Ashkenazi Jewish
17.3%
East Europe
0%
Balkan
0%
Baltic
0%
East European
0%
Asia
9.0%
West Asia
9.0%
West Asian
9.0%
Mizrahi Jewish - Iranian/Iraqi
0%
Central Asia
0%
Central Asian
0%
East Asia
0%
Chinese and Vietnamese
0%
Eskimo/Inuit
0%
Filipino, Indonesian, and Malaysian
0%
Japanese
0%
Mongolian
0%
Nepali
0%
Thai and Cambodian
0%
South Asia
0%
South Asian
0%
Middle East
1.7%
Middle East
1.7%
Middle Eastern
1.7%
Yemenite Jewish
0%
Africa
0%
Central Africa
0%
Central African
0%
East Africa
0%
Ethiopian Jewish
0%
Kenyan
0%
Maasai
0%
Somali
0%
North Africa
0%
North African
0%
Sephardic Jewish - North African
0%
West Africa
0%
Nigerian
0%
Sierra Leonean
0%
West African
0%
America
0%
Central America
0%
Central American
0%
Native American
0%
Native American
0%
South America
0%
Indigenous Amazonian
0%
Oceania
0%
Oceania
0%
Melanesian
0%
Papuan
0%
Polynesian
0%
MD Sal
100.0%

So Greek replaces Italian almost completely.

West Asian replaces Sephardi Jew.

No English or Irish, and no Scandinavian.
 
Very large West Asia percentage here. And I am no longer Central European, I guess?
Europe
91.1%

North and West Europe
71.8%

Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
47.1%

Scandinavian
24.7%



South Europe
19.3%

Iberian
19.3%





Asia
8.1%

West Asia
8.1%

West Asian
8.1%





Africa
0.8%

West Africa
0.8%

Sierra Leonean
0.8%




 
You look like you have a grandparent that was North African or Southern Portugal. Iberian + West Asian = 27% Strange combo, you generally dont see high Asian in the Iberian peninsula.
 
You look like you have a grandparent that was North African or Southern Portugal. Iberian + West Asian = 27% Strange combo, you generally dont see high Asian in the Iberian peninsula.

Unless someone snuck into Appalachia that I'm not aware of I have no recent immigrants from any one country. By my great grandparents generation most (that I know their lines) are mixed European ancestry, mainly British Isles and Western/Central Europe and the immigrations happened way before the 19th century. On paper, that is. I do get a small amount of West Asian on many of the GEDMatch Calculators (1-3 percent) as well as some Central Asian. But I do believe there may have been a few non paternal events and I have a few lines that are unkown. I just found that W. Asian really high comparatively.
 
Let me see your GEDmatch k13, or send me the Kit number. Based on other results from other people, I dont see how West Asian can tie in with any NW Euro linage. Especially assuming it only came from 1 side, you can double it to around 20-25% for a Mom or Dad, and 50% for a grandparent. Thats not European, no matter how you look at it. Might be anything from Mexican, to Algerian.

The Iberian may be from anything, but It assuming it goes with the West Asian.
 
Let me see your GEDmatch k13.

I have some genetic traits that are not consistent with most Europeans, a cleft palate (forked uvula) mongolian spots, and the gene for dry earwax found in Native Americans and E. Asians. Before this DNA test I was pretty sure that my gg grandmother was of Native ancestry. She was very olive skinned which passed on to my mother. My mother is where I get these genetic traits. So maybe this "native" ancestry is actually Asian?


North_Atlantic47.77
Baltic21.50
West_Med14.06
West_Asian5.72
East_Med3.66
Red_Sea1.46
South_Asian2.82
East_Asian-
Siberian0.91
Amerindian0.28
Oceanian-
Northeast_African1.06
Sub-Saharan0.77
 
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Elevated East Med and South Asian, Red sea and NE African clear as day. Looks like the West Indian Trading Company.....
 
Just uploaded my own FTDNA data to Myheritage. Hopefully should be closer to FTDNA as in FTDNA I got mostly Europe and Amerindian.

These are my gedmatch results beforehand:

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:


Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 Amerindian 49.04
2 West_Med 10.63
3 North_Sea 9.59
4 Atlantic 9.27
5 East_Med 7.77
6 Sub-Saharan 4.63
7 Eastern_Euro 3.31
8 Northeast_African 1.6
9 Southeast_Asian 1.43
10 Red_Sea 1.19
11 Oceanian 0.64
12 South_Asian 0.5
13 Baltic 0.34
14 West_Asian 0.06


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Amerindian 37.49
2 Mayan 46.76
3 West_Greenlander 46.78
4 East_Greenlander 50.82
5 Pima 50.95
6 MA-1 52.7
7 Anzick-1 53.51
8 Greek_Thessaly 62.31
9 Romanian 62.42
10 Bulgarian 62.52
11 Tuscan 62.68
12 North_Italian 62.72
13 Serbian 62.72
14 Portuguese 62.72
15 Ashkenazi 62.78
16 Spanish_Extremadura 62.81
17 Spanish_Murcia 62.87
18 Spanish_Galicia 62.89
19 West_Sicilian 63.11
20 Greek 63.16


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.4% Mayan + 42.6% Portuguese @ 6.31
2 57.5% Mayan + 42.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 6.48
3 57.4% Mayan + 42.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 6.51
4 57.4% Mayan + 42.6% North_Italian @ 6.64
5 57.5% Mayan + 42.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 6.72
6 54% Anzick-1 + 46% Portuguese @ 7.18
7 57.8% Mayan + 42.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 7.19
8 57.7% Mayan + 42.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 7.25
9 54.1% Anzick-1 + 45.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 7.33
10 57.4% Mayan + 42.6% Tuscan @ 7.34
11 54.1% Anzick-1 + 45.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 7.37
12 55.3% Pima + 44.7% Portuguese @ 7.4
13 50.3% Portuguese + 49.7% Karitiana @ 7.41
14 50.2% Spanish_Galicia + 49.8% Karitiana @ 7.54
15 57.9% Mayan + 42.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 7.55
16 55.3% Pima + 44.7% Spanish_Extremadura @ 7.55
17 55.3% Pima + 44.7% Spanish_Galicia @ 7.57
18 54% Anzick-1 + 46% North_Italian @ 7.62
19 54.1% Anzick-1 + 45.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 7.63
20 57.9% Mayan + 42.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 7.69
 
Balkan-50,6%
Baltic-8,4%
Greek-37,6%
Italian-1,7%
Melanesian-1,7%

So, here the Balkan category is Slavic-like and the Greek is Southern Euro something. Plus some noise as always.
 
Mine
These tests just keep distributing me all over the place
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Finally I'm very Balkan, or South Slav, or whatever it is...

I think my northwest europe is this high maybe cuz North Italian clusters with it, only connection I can think of is Venetians? Ilyrian? Ancestry shows 18% Italy/Greece region and 8% Northwest Europe. Geno2 results were pretty similar to this except they gave me 23% Southwest Europe and 9% northwest. And no Balkan/East Europe/Baltic separation, which is even more confusing and it's pretty well known Geno's aDNA isn't the most accurate.
I'm not sure why I have zero of many other regions, your guess is as good as mine. Ancestry, Geno, Ftdna, Dnaland also showed basically zero for the rest of the regions besides some Caucasus, Asia Minor, Jewish, Middle East, South and West Asia, Britain, Ireland which I guess some of these markers could kinda be the same thing they might just be interpreting it differently.

As I look through everybody's results here I noticed that I stand out with the Middle East percentage so far I'm the only one with it, And it's kinda odd that I have it compared to the rest of my admixture.
 
I'd say they did a fair job estimating the amount of irish/scottish ancestry I have, everything else is quite messy though.

The only thing I am impressed about here is that I received the same exact results from my 23andMe and AncestryDna data that I uploaded with them, usually other calculators will interpret them quite differently.
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it is the first calculator to give me any ashkenazi percentages
 
I never seem to get Irish or English on any of these tests. Im starting to think they were either very inbred, or that they were heavily mixed with French from New Brunswick.

Italian must represent North West Italy like Milan because I dont score very high.
 
It is my opinion that these "pre Celts" are what are jacking up the Iberian component in all the MyHeritage estimates. We have zero Spanish or Portuguese people in our tree, and not even any surnames that sound remotely so which may have been elsewhere first.

I tend to get high iberian scores even though I have no known ancestors there. French Canadians get high Iberian scores because I think it correlates with a pre indo vasconic Atlantic admixture. Many French Canadians came from coastal areas like La Rochelle. I think these Vasconic genes are found in the British Isles as well.
 
So what to make of 0% English ancestry on this calculator? What group are they using as English? The description just tells of the types of groups found in Britain. Who is genetically English?
 
So what to make of 0% English ancestry on this calculator? What group are they using as English? The description just tells of the types of groups found in Britain. Who is genetically English?

Yeah I am sort of confused too (so is my wife), as in FTDNA her Scandinavian 47% was the same as Myheritage but her Great Britain is nowhere to be seen, instead its North/Western Europe. Her English, and other UK parts are 0%. She is mostly English only being 1/8 Dutch.

I would suspect maybe they are using ancient Briton DNA or something that resembles the Welsh? Or Anglo Saxon...?
 

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