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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    Notably, this calculator, makes East Germans more related to Polish or even Ukrainian and Slavic in general than related to West Germans.
    Maybe that's the case though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by srdceleva View Post
    Maybe that's the case though?
    Maybe. If it is true, it would mean that East Germans are mostly germanized Slavs. I wonder how East Germans plot on PCA chart?
    Be wary of people who tend to glorify the past, underestimate the present, and demonize the future.

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    This supports the opinion of some.. that Berlin is renamed from Brljin and Brandenburg from Branibor, Dresden from Drijezdan, Leipzig from Lipsko, etc.
    The Lusatian Sorbs or Luzicki Srbi as Serbs call it are high frequency R1a people and in east Germany it's not even close to 50% which doesn't hint they're all just Germanized Slavs.

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    Sharp tool!

    My result: Ingvaeonic

    core: 85 >
    region: 80-85
    perifere: 75-80


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    Here is mine, for what it's worth.




    My ancestry is principally a mix of Celtic and Germanic and the red zone is the convergence between the two groups (Brittany has high Celtic DNA while Normandy to Luxembourg is more Germanic, but with Gaulish/Belgic).

    And here is another Belgian with a much broader range over Northwest Europe in the 80%, and with a peak at 91-92 in West and South Germany. He still gets scores in the 70% in Central Europe and 60% in Eastern and most of Southern Europe.

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    Thanks for posting, Maciamo.

    Your Basque sets a record at 47, the next highest is 40 and many are in the 20's. I suppose you are just about the closest person to that zone that has posted though.


    Where's the resident Iberians?

    Also I noticed a lack of actual British folks on this site. The one I did see was banned :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by I1a3_Young View Post
    Thanks for posting, Maciamo.

    Your Basque sets a record at 47, the next highest is 40 and many are in the 20's. I suppose you are just about the closest person to that zone that has posted though.


    Where's the resident Iberians?

    Also I noticed a lack of actual British folks on this site. The one I did see was banned :P
    I got 45 for Basque and peaked at 94 for the Brittany/Normandy population.

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    >=85; >= 80; >=75; >=70; >= 60; >=50. Roughly.







    Last edited by Regio X; 08-06-17 at 23:49.
    Father's MDKAs
    Male lineage: G2a-L497 -> G2a-L42; TV, Italy.
    Female lineage: T1b (unkown subclade); TV, Italy.

    Mother's MDKAs
    Male lineage: R1b-U152 -> R1b-L2 (xZ49, Z367); TV, Italy.
    Female lineage: H1e*; PN, Italy.

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    My highest peak score here is very close to my predicted place of origin of Normandy on the other k36 program. Both algorithms seem to corroborate each other.

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    Well crap there goes my Slovenia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    They are Latinos / Hispanics as well, not only Native Americans.

    Not sure about the Maoris, but I think some of them are mixed.
    Almost all of them today are mixed - I don't know if surveys take their genealogy in account?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regio X View Post
    >=85; >= 80; >=75; >=70; >= 60; >=50. Roughly.







    mine below



    similar to yours

    further break down by mine via the creator

    From oracle-spreadsheet

    1 IT_Veneto 5,52
    2 IT_Friuli 10,50
    3 IT_North 55,63
    4 IT_Piedmont 64,88
    5 Swiss_Italian 80,52
    6 IT_Tuscany 106,72
    7 IT_Aosta 116,92
    8 Swiss_German 189,15
    9 Albania_Montenegro 201,53
    10 Austria_Tyrol 217,31
    11 France_Central 252,58
    12 Macedonia_FYROM 279,77
    13 Albania_FYROM 391,37
    14 South_Romania 395,82
    15 Albania_North 464,27
    16 Romania_SE 468,79
    17 IT_Lazio 495,40
    18 France_NorthWest 495,91
    19 Serbian 520,65
    20 Kosovo 526,21


    BTW, north italy boxes represent Milan and south-tyrol ( trentino alto-adige )
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    when a people no longer dares to defend its language it is ripe for slavery.

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    Seven Eastern Germans (+ their kit numbers):

    Windmoeller (GEDCOM ID#: 6534358):



    Schauer (GEDCOM ID#: 5564977):



    J. Steinbach (GEDCOM ID#: 6534358):



    Kopitzke (GEDCOM ID#: 6534358):



    Matthia (http://www.matthia.org):



    Krampetz (GEDCOM ID#: 5380745):



    L. Steinbach (GEDCOM ID#: 6534358):


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Seven Eastern Germans (+ their kit numbers):

    Windmoeller (GEDCOM ID#: 6534358):



    Schauer (GEDCOM ID#: 5564977):



    J. Steinbach (GEDCOM ID#: 6534358):



    Kopitzke (GEDCOM ID#: 6534358):



    Matthia (http://www.matthia.org):



    Krampetz (GEDCOM ID#: 5380745):



    L. Steinbach (GEDCOM ID#: 6534358):

    These can't be average east Germans though. Look more like prussians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sile View Post
    BTW, north italy boxes represent Milan and south-tyrol ( trentino alto-adige )



    I highly doubt that, especially south Tyrol that is only the English name of Alto-Adige, not even of Trentino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srdceleva View Post
    These can't be average east Germans though. Look more like prussians.
    They are Germans with ancestry from former German territories which are now in Poland.

    Check their GEDCOMs, everything is there (I mean, their family trees can be found there).

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    similarity.jpg
    mine :) no cool gradient shading unfortunately, the numbers alone will have to do

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    Finally got around to coloring mine. I also redid the test because they seemed to have updated their map, they added Northern Irish and Transylvanian samples.

    I'm Closer to Northern Irish than regular Irish which is interesting because AncestryDNA claims I cluster with others who have Norn Iron ancestry, as far as I know I have no ancestors from there though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    Here is mine, for what it's worth.




    My ancestry is principally a mix of Celtic and Germanic and the red zone is the convergence between the two groups (Brittany has high Celtic DNA while Normandy to Luxembourg is more Germanic, but with Gaulish/Belgic).
    Ha, it seems I make a more convincing Belgian genetically than you do. They should really split up Flanders and Wallonia though, Belgium is one of the less genetically homogeneous countries in Europe and I'm sure there would be a fair difference between the two, similar to Switzerland. It's clear that Belgians are a Celtic and Germanic mix, I derive about 20~ percent of my ancestry from the celtic areas of the British Isles and the rest mostly from Germany and I serve as a decent proxy for them.

    Thanks for posting, Maciamo.


    Your Basque sets a record at 47, the next highest is 40 and many are in the 20's. I suppose you are just about the closest person to that zone that has posted though.
    His overall Iberian ancestry is pretty high, he also has higher similarities with Italian Swiss than most other North West Europeans here do.


    These can't be average east Germans though. Look more like prussians.
    I have ancestry from Pomerania and Lower Silesia, East Germany is the only place where I have ancestry from that isnt above 80 here. If it includes Germans who used to reside in Poland like Tomenable says than the number will be highly variable. A German from Mecklenburg with ancestry from Polabians might not be similar from a German originally from East Prussia who had ancestry from Baltic people or a German from somewhere else in the east where they didn't mix as much.

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    The ones I posted are not from East Prussia.

    But some of them are from Pomerania. I couldn't find any 100% East Prussians. I only found one 50% East Prussian + 50% West German (according to GEDCOM). Maybe if the East Prussian parent orders a DNA test one day, I will have a 100% East Prussian sample.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selectivememri View Post
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    mine :) no cool gradient shading unfortunately,
    It would be fairly difficult to create with those results, outside of Macedonia the numbers are all over the place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Promenade
    I have ancestry from Pomerania and Lower Silesia
    On GEDmatch, do you have any 100% East German relatives with GEDCOMs?

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    Ha, truly, it's bizarre that northern greece shows less similarity than what appears to be southern greece? Also, what are peoples' theories on why Sardinians are such outliers? I just always assumed they were similar to Italians....

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    It would be fairly difficult to create with those results, outside of Macedonia the numbers are all over the place

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    Dont see anything out of the ordinary, and is very consistent with the Oricals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    On GEDmatch, do you have any 100% East German relatives with GEDCOMs?
    I just created one to look and I couldn't find any relatives let alone East Germans. The Surnames of my ancestors from Pomerania were Leeger and Friek. I don't know the surname of the one from Lower Silesia because she married an American, I have it somewhere though. I'll tell you when I find it.

    Ha, truly, it's bizarre that northern greece shows less similarity than what appears to be southern greece? Also, what are peoples' theories on why Sardinians are such outliers? I just always assumed they were similar to Italians....
    They have a large amount of EEF ancestry and lack Steppe ancestry, the island isolated them enough so they preserved much more of their neolithic ancestry compared to the rest of Europe.

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