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    Tool for K36: your similarities rates on maps

    Genetic similarity to various populations in Eurogenes K36:

    http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

    Here are my results for Europe (I added color clines in GIMP):

    >85% similarity (= West Slavs, West Ukrainians, and descendants of Eastern Polans?)
    >80% similarity
    >70% similarity
    >60% similarity
    >50% similarity

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    Peaks in Belgium and Normandy, why is my affinity to Native Americans and Sardinians equal though? Even my affinity to the Maori is roughly equal to that with Georgians. Is it because some of the natives tested in these places have northwest European ancestry they arent aware of? The similarity to Manchus is also odd in my opinion.

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    They are Latinos / Hispanics as well, not only Native Americans.

    Not sure about the Maoris, but I think some of them are mixed.

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    Still not a pro at posting pics. I guess I need to learn what GIMP is as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I1a3_Young View Post
    How did you make the heat map?
    I used GIMP 2.8. Image Manipulation Program.

    BTW, here are Early Medieval Slavs in this tool:

    http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads...l=1#post510256

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    They are Latinos / Hispanics as well, not only Native Americans.

    Not sure about the Maoris, but I think some of them are mixed.
    Ah alright that makes more sense. Any idea about Manchu being 14? What did you guys score? I noticed that the images are invalid attachments so no one can see them, I'll try and fix that when I return home

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    I don't think it's surpising.
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    Not far off from each other, Promenade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I1a3_Young View Post
    Not far off from each other, Promenade.
    Genetically I turn out like a Belgian or English which makes sense to me because most of my ancestry is from Germany but I also have ancestry from the France, Netherlands, Scotland and Ireland pulling me towards the isles.

    I believe we'll see if more people share their maps that Americans have a lower highest affinity score towards a certain population compared to people who are mono-ethnic

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    My "hot spots" where I know I have quite a bit of ancestry are true in this calculator. Along the border of France and Germany especially. Most of my Germans came from that area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Promenade View Post
    Ah alright that makes more sense. Any idea about Manchu being 14? What did you guys score? I noticed that the images are invalid attachments so no one can see them, I'll try and fix that when I return home
    Mine is showing 18 in Manchu. And the highest numbers I got is in Hungary and Slovenia/Western Croatia. Then highest scores are in the rest of east, southeast and central Europe including Germany. I can't figure out how to post these imagines in here, the snipping tool doesn't work when I try to minimize the window these squares with the numbers move somehow. Oh well screw it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apsurdistan View Post
    Mine is showing 18 in Manchu. And the highest numbers I got is in Hungary and Slovenia/Western Croatia. Then highest scores are in the rest of east, southeast and central Europe including Germany. I can't figure out how to post these imagines in here, the snipping tool doesn't work when I try to minimize the window these squares with the numbers move somehow. Oh well screw it.
    For some reason insert image doesnt work and leads to an invalid attachment, I was able to post images by doing the following:

    1.Click on "attachments"(looks like a paper clip, it's next to text color)

    2.Click on "add files"

    3.Click on "select files"

    4.Select the images you want to share and click on "upload images"

    5.Check off on the images you want to share in the thread, then click on "insert inline"

    The high Manchu is puzzling

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    Aha, you seem to be kind of northern-shifted.

    Interesting, considering that you also have N1c which is more frequent in Belarus than in Ukraine.

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    Not the best coloring skills but anyway; pretty Balkan picture for me.
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    According to this map and calculator Anatolian Turks seem pretty distant genetically from the Balkans and the rest of Europe and that's surprising to me, I thought they wouldn't be much different than Balkans particularly in western Anatolia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aha View Post
    What regions of the Ukraine are your grandparents from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Aha, you seem to be kind of northern-shifted.

    Interesting, considering that you also have N1c which is more frequent in Belarus than in Ukraine.
    Quote Originally Posted by srdceleva View Post
    What regions of the Ukraine are your grandparents from?
    Kyiv region. Parents from Kyiv and 10km from Kyiv. Grandparents: paternal: 10km from Kyiv, 80km from Kyiv; maternal: from Vinnytsya region and one person from Altai, with unknown ancestry, perhaps back-migration.

    My ftdna y12 matches are lithuanians. And 3 out of 10 top autosomal matches are lithuanians too, with one matching y12


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aha View Post
    Kyiv region. Parents from Kyiv and 10km from Kyiv. Grandparents: paternal: 10km from Kyiv, 80km from Kyiv; maternal: from Vinnytsya region and one person from Altai, with unknown ancestry, perhaps back-migration.

    My ftdna y12 matches are lithuanians. And 3 out of 10 top autosomal matches are lithuanians too, with one matching y12

    Very interesting, yes you look northern shifted with Lithuanian/northern Belarus type ancestry. Kiev though has been a center for the east Slavic world since the kievan Rus so it would be interesting to see a better and more in depth study if the regions around kiev. Maybe your ancestor from the Altai region was Baltic as well. Was that on your paternal side?

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    How do you do this with the color blobs on the higher concentration areas? Is there a program used to do this? It would help be easier on the eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srdceleva View Post
    Very interesting, yes you look northern shifted with Lithuanian/northern Belarus type ancestry. Kiev though has been a center for the east Slavic world since the kievan Rus so it would be interesting to see a better and more in depth study if the regions around kiev. Maybe your ancestor from the Altai region was Baltic as well. Was that on your paternal side?
    Yes, indeed, it would be interesting if someone done a study on the regions around Kyiv. People of many various villages have their own distinctive look and there is a big range of phenotypes.

    The paternal side is deeply Kyivan.
    The ancestor from Altai is on the maternal side.

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    Fennoscandian 13.5 13.24 10.89 17.14
    Eastern_Euro 12.81 18.60 17.40 19.69
    North_Atlantic 9.9 6.77 6.44 6.46
    North_Sea 6.72 6.72 6.82 8.61
    Central_Euro 5.69 8.74 7.41 8.18
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    Iberian 3.46 3.37 3.76 0.09
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    How do you do this with the color blobs on the higher concentration areas? Is there a program used to do this? It would help be easier on the eyes.
    I do in Adobe Illustrator with basic tools, most people do in ms paint or related apps. Maybe someone uses something more sophisticated. It's done manually

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apsurdistan View Post
    I wish someone would make my map, I'll pay you $20
    just use the snipping tool to get the image of your map. Open it into paint and use the basic tools, its not that hard. Maybe mine isnt that fancy like Aha and tomenable but its not that hard to make it even like theirs.

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