Thank you, I seem to have missed this Verteba paper and this British paper, as I haven't been on in a while, is there a link to the 4ev13? They are autosomally plotting corded ware like?
No, one plots like F?zesabony, so more Corded Ware than G?va and Kyjatice, one plots close to G?va-Kyjatice, but somewhat more Southern (like where I would expect Eastern Hallstatt), a third looks more ancient, Mokrin like, but could very well be from the Central Balkans and a 4th is East Balkan oriented, so either from Bulgaria or close by, or, that's where he plots closest, related to Moldovan "Scythians". There was already one Geto-Scythian with a similar profile which was E-V13 from Glinoe.
I wrote about it here:
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/41672-To-burn-or-not-to-burn-LBA-EIA-Balkan-case/page8
Sorted coordinates from rafc:
Sample_name Hg Coords (scaled)
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I26742 J2b2a1a1a1b~ Celtic_paper:I26742,0.122929,0.148267,0.024136,-0.010013,0.034776,-0.003068,0.000705,0.000692,0.010431,0.032256,0.004 222,0.006444,-0.024083,-0.012524,-0.006515,0.00358,0.00691,0.00076,0.012947,-0.010255,-0.002496,0.001607,0.00419,0.011447,-0.006826
I4998 J2b2a1a1a1b~ Celtic_paper:I4998,0.118376,0.161469,0.016216,-0.022287,0.034776,-0.009203,-0.003525,0.001615,0.01268,0.028247,0.003573,0.0041 96,-0.019772,-0.008533,-0.010315,0.01074,0.025686,-0.004181,0.003897,0.011881,-0.002496,0.006677,0.007272,-0.000723,-0.008502
I23995 J2b2a1a1a1b2~ Celtic_paper:I23995,0.122929,0.146236,0.026021,0.0 01292,0.036007,0.002231,0.00564,0.000692,0.009204, 0.026242,-0.007795,0.009142,-0.014866,-0.00234,0.000271,0.001458,0.005476,0.007601,0.0084 22,0.004002,0.000125,-0.003215,-0.003574,-0.005061,0.000718
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I17312 R1b1a1b1b Celtic_paper:I17312,0.126344,0.125926,0.058454,0.0 31654,0.041854,0.016455,-0.004465,0.021691,0.009817,0.003098,0.000325,0.002 098,-0.000743,0.007294,0.007057,0.005436,0.006389,0.011 529,0.013827,0.005002,0.003993,0.009645,-0.007765,-0.001325,-0.002275
I0231 R1b1a1b1b3a Celtic_paper:I0231,0.119514,0.080227,0.043746,0.11 2405,-0.033237,0.053268,0,-0.006231,-0.055017,-0.074717,-0.001949,0.002398,0.003271,-0.023121,0.03203,0.019225,0.007302,-0.00152,-0.002765,0.012256,-0.005241,-0.004328,0.005053,0.011206,0.002754
I0438 R1b1a1b1b3a Celtic_paper:I0438,0.121791,0.085304,0.045254,0.11 9188,-0.030159,0.046854,0.002585,0.001846,-0.063402,-0.077633,0.001949,0.005245,-0.010258,-0.029314,0.030401,0.002121,0.004172,-0.005068,-0.008673,0.018884,0.002121,0.00643,0.014173,0.0231 36,-0.007664
I0440 R1b1a1b1b3a Celtic_paper:I0440,0.127482,0.091398,0.040352,0.11 079,-0.033237,0.045459,0.00705,0.004384,-0.05604,-0.077268,0.002273,0.001199,-0.002973,-0.013074,0.035966,0.005436,-0.011343,-0.005701,-0.010559,0.009505,-0.001747,0.002844,0.012202,0.022533,0.001317
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I23209 R1b1a1b1b3a1a Celtic_paper:I23209,0.126344,0.149283,0.036958,-0.006137,0.042777,-0.010319,0.00141,0.001615,0.003272,0.024784,-0.003735,0.006744,-0.014866,-0.005918,-0.012622,0.006762,0.02047,0.001014,0.013198,0.0077 54,-0.010232,0.005935,-0.005423,-0.008917,0.003712
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?18885-A-theory-about-the-origin-of-E-V13&p=814369&viewfull=1#post814369
The exact subclades are not always safe of course, but the general grouping is fairly safe at this point.