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    People from the eastern bloc have traveled and lived in the western world, including me and you don't realize how warped you are because you're indoctrinated to fear the very word of communism. As I said communism the way I interpret it is a system to reach human equality, true human equality and rights, and distribution of resources based on people's needs and collective harmony instead of greed and profit and pointless over consumption. If you think that idea is no longer relevant today then you really don't have a clue. I don't want a utopia I just think there's always room for improvement in society and by no means do I suggest a cult of personality dictatorship.
    I don't want a robotic inhuman system on the contrary that's exactly what this system you call capitalism is turning the world into. If you don't see that you're in flat out denial.
    And history is an ongoing process that continues to evolve and change, it's not the end of history as Fukuyama says. It can only be the end of mankind if things continue the way they're going. Either by total collapse and chaos or humans will no longer be human, they'll live in a virtual reality with robots or something it's hard to predict what kind of future could become of this it's too bizarre to even comprehend. Maybe like a hunger games type of society.

    And again this propaganda of eastern bloc people are dumb and they're 50 or whatever years behind is utter nonsense. Trust me they're better educated than the average person in the west.

    But I really don't care what you people wanna believe GOOD LUCK WITH ALL THAT! Time will tell who's right and who's "warped". Honestly this is why I avoid these time wasters and I really should do a better job of ignoring dumb ignorant comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apsurdistan View Post
    People from the eastern bloc have traveled and lived in the western world, including me and you don't realize how warped you are because you're indoctrinated to fear the very word of communism. As I said communism the way I interpret it is a system to reach human equality, true human equality and rights, and distribution of resources based on people's needs and collective harmony instead of greed and profit and pointless over consumption. If you think that idea is no longer relevant today then you really don't have a clue. I don't want a utopia I just think there's always room for improvement in society and by no means do I suggest a cult of personality dictatorship.
    I don't want a robotic inhuman system on the contrary that's exactly what this system you call capitalism is turning the world into. If you don't see that you're in flat out denial.
    And history is an ongoing process that continues to evolve and change, it's not the end of history as Fukuyama says. It can only be the end of mankind if things continue the way they're going. Either by total collapse and chaos or humans will no longer be human, they'll live in a virtual reality with robots or something it's hard to predict what kind of future could become of this it's too bizarre to even comprehend. Maybe like a hunger games type of society.

    And again this propaganda of eastern bloc people are dumb and they're 50 or whatever years behind is utter nonsense. Trust me they're better educated than the average person in the west.

    But I really don't care what you people wanna believe GOOD LUCK WITH ALL THAT! Time will tell who's right and who's "warped". Honestly this is why I avoid these time wasters and I really should do a better job of ignoring dumb ignorant comments.
    You really need to pick up some books about what life was like in Russia and Romania under Communism, to give only two examples. They killed more people than Hitler and the Nazis, and it was their own people. Economically, both countries were a disaster, their people living practically like people in the third world. Even when it wasn't killing its own people, Russia was always a third world country with first world weapons. Never heard the old saying about living under Communism, "they pretended to pay us and we pretended to work"? The only people who bought Russian products were those who couldn't get anything better.

    People brave desert and river passages, hiding in containers, any danger you can imagine, dying in their thousands, just to get to the U.S., even if it means living here illegally for their whole lives. They even send their unaccompanied children to do it if there is no other way, hoping they won't just be driven back to the border. Tell me how many people ever tried to break into a Soviet Bloc country to live? Remember the Berlin Wall? I think the traffic was all going to the west. They freaking had to build a wall with explosives buried in the ground and snipers on the wall and in buildings as well to prevent people from leaving East Germany en masse.

    It's time for people to understand they were sold a bunch of nonsense, and I say that as someone who had a lot of family members who fell for it too, and even gave their life to it. I applaud their determination and courage, but they were just wrong.

    The communist ideal is wonderful, but it has never worked and will never work because it is contrary to human nature. Just look at Nicaragua right now, for goodness' sakes. How many abysmal failures do people have to see before they admit they were hoodwinked? It's like a religion, so you wind up feeling like you're talking to fundamentalist "Born Again" Christian. Logic, reason, nothing matters, because the "belief" is too ingrained.


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    Is there at least any new propaganda and original thoughts you can offer or you can just regurgitate outdated fearmongering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apsurdistan View Post
    Is there at least any new propaganda and original thoughts you can offer or you can just regurgitate outdated fearmongering?
    That wasn't even a decent rejoinder, which is usually what happens when what has been posted is true and irrefutable. I posted facts, historical facts which can't be disputed. You know that, so your only option was basically just calling it propaganda. I don't know...can propaganda mean disseminating facts as well as lies? These were facts.

    Who on earth would fear communism nowadays? It's a totally discredited system. People flee it, as you'd know if you knew any history. That history would also tell you that it always collapses of its own accord sooner or later, although untold suffering while it lasts is no laughing matter.

    I think it's about time to return to what was supposed to be a rather light-hearted thread. Leave it to someone from the Balkans to ruin it with discourtesy and aggressiveness.

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    So she's discriminating any country that called itself communist and you're discriminating against the Balkan people. And I'm the one that's rude and aggressive.

    No those are warped facts in your dogmatic head and as I said I really don't care to try to convince you or anybody of anything. You completely missed the point of everything I said anyway. Definition of insanity is trying to do the same thing over and over without any result. And don't say discriminating things anymore you hypocrite. Cuz you're a mod you can freely get away with it. Is that how the rules work in this place? No wonder this place is nearly empty and hardly active with users.
    Speaking of that there are more interesting threads to focus my attention on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apsurdistan View Post
    Yeah? What are these "communist" values you're talking about you despise so much? If you don't like certain things about China that doesn't mean it has to do anything with communism itself. Communism is a socio-political idea and different people interpret it and practice or have practiced it in different ways. In my opinion none of them did it right, they were failed attempts. In my country of ex-Yugoslavia it was called socialism and there were many things about that system that people actually quite a lot of them think it was good and people did live better then than they do now. Not to mention the stability and peace between different religious ethnicities it was maintaining. And even in former Soviet Union over 50% of those populations think it was a bad thing that it collapsed. They're all wrong and you're right?
    The difference between Mainland China, overseas Chinese, Taiwanese and people from Hong Kong is that they are communist. We are not.
    Somebody we know told us that the mainland Chinese sold eggs to the Russians. The Russians came up with a rule that the eggs have to be a specific size otherwise they are not qualified. If the eggs don’t fit the criteria the Russians threw them away. Eggs can never be the exact same size.

    The communists stick together. The Russians, the Mainland Chinese and the North Koreans are friends. So why are the communist countries not getting along with countries who are not communist? This is because we haven’t got the same mentality.

    The Mainland Chinese are still complaining about Japan’s aggressive past. The Japanese raped China and Korea. Well, the Mainland Chinese raped the Taiwanese, did you know that?

    You might think that the removal of the aristocrats in Eastern European countries brought people betters lives than before, hence communism is better, but that it your opinion.

    You're so much smarter than them you know what's better for them? Don't make ignorant blanket statements about things you don't really understand. What does the Chinese one child policy have to do with communism? That was a cultural thing. You're lumping way too many things together, it's very shortsighted and simplistic. Grow up the world is full of hypocrisy.
    It has everything to do with communism. Mao’s propaganda told the Mainland Chinese people that 人多好辦事 (The more people we have, the easier it is to accomplish things). Those who were subject to his propaganda really went carried away and Mainland China became over populated. It is still over populated today.

    If that did not happen, would one child policy be implemented?

    Do you see any one child policy implemented in Hong Kong, in Taiwan, in Malaysia in Singapore? Culture, you know nothing about Chinese culture! I am not lumping everything together. I admit there are differences between all those countries with a communist past because of culture. However, they are all friends and they stick together.

    And no matter what your dumb excuse is what you said was rude and borderline racist. My reply to that was merely natural and logical, any country you criticize the way you do in an awfully ignorant generalizing way wouldn't welcome you to live there. And you apparently got triggered by that.
    My dumb excuse? My ignorance? I can read and write in 3 languages academically, can you?

    and you talk so much about China's demographic problems what about Japan? There's more and more lonely men in Japan and it's not because of a shortage of women and the demographics of that country look depressing within a few decades it's going to be a very old population.
    You told me that I am generalising things because I know nothing. I think it is you who are generalising things. Just because Japanese and Chinese are both Far Easterners, it does not mean we are the same you know.

    Japan has a lot of lonely men in their country is due to their culture and materialism. When they adopted Confucianism from our ancestors, they over interpreted it. A Japanese man who just graduated from University who cannot find a job will be labelled as one of the loosers. Then he will jump off the cliff. Japan has one of the highest rates of suicide in the world . More than 25 people a year have chosen the towering hills of Tōjinbō (東尋坊) as their final destination; for ending their lives.

    There are some Japanese men who are at the bottom of the society bought cute life size dolls as companions. This is because they have been stimagtised by the Japanese society. They can't find women so they are replacing real women with dolls.

    Men’ ego is very high in Japan due to culture reasons. A Japanese man who has been rejected by women can no longer have the courage to woo women. They spent their money on cute Japanese stars and other services provided in Japan to have contact with cute women.

    So what are Japanese women doing these days, if only 1/3 of them are in relationship with their men? They are working hard towards their career and degree because the Japanese society has become extremely materialistic over the years.

    After the Second World War, Japan was the only Asian nation who dominated the economic activities in Asia and the rest of the world. They got a lot of help from the US. Nowadays, they have competition from China, from South Korea etc, hence they have to work harder to compete with the neighbouring countries.

    China on the other hand, thanks to one child policy is now experiencing a rise in bride price. In some cases they smuggle women from poorer Asian countries such as Vietnam, Indonesia, Cambodia etc. The men who are missing out are the poor ones.



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    Somalia is currently a dangerous war zone. Fortunately, Somaliland is relatively safe. Hargeisa, its capital, is cosmopolitan with a rich cultural history. Coastal Zeila is an historic port qthat’s full of mosques and picturesquely distressed colonial buildings.

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    Wait, Thailand?????
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    US...not bad

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    Thailand.... i dont know, the touristic impulse is pretty one-dimensional, to a desecrating point

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyvyx View Post
    Thailand.... i dont know, the touristic impulse is pretty one-dimensional, to a desecrating point
    You answered 19 questions and received your results in less than 5 minutes from the time you made your last post, and were able to make this one?

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    Catalonia is my future country, not bad

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    Anyone get New Zealand? A lot of the big money which doesn't like the direction that the U.S. is taking is heading there from what I hear.

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