Y-chromosomal analysis of Greek Cypriots

Yetos said:
most of Greeks are G M201, especially in the anatolian ones, and Turks also
seems like around Kappadokia and Pontus and wider North Turkey a corridor has more M 201
and west and south a south corridor has M406
Italy has more M 406 I know than some parts of Greece or Turkey
and I am surprised with Cyprus
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The best explanation would be the Kura-Araxes expansion, you also find G-M406 in Kurds and Levantine populations, there is also a Jewish G-M406 line.
 
I think is fairly safe to conclude that almost every haplogroup of the T/C that exists also in G/C populations has its origins in a Greek ancestor.Why not the other way around? It has to do how Islamic societies operated. Conversions were on way road, same with intermarriages, slavery etc.
Why then the small differences in ratios? One possible explanation is this:
It has to do with the geographic origins of TC , and the genetic profile of those regions.
There hasn't been a uniformed conversion rate, and since TC disproportionally come from those regions they acquired a genetic profile between to that of those regions and that of the averages of Cypriots.

For example the northwest coastal area of Cyprus, with higher than the average Muslim population, has been speculated that it was settled with byzantine soldiers from Eperus illyria during the early middle ages, which would explain the higher I2 prevalence for TC, similar to the non Muslim local population.
 
Azzurro said:
I manually Nevgen Predicted all the Turkish Cypriot J2 from this study and there is 83:

The Breakdown according to the Nevgen Predictor:

1. J2a1-Z7700: 16 (J-F3133 on Yfull)
2. J2a1-M319: 11
3. J2a1-Z500: 11 (would be interesting to see how many are M92)
4. J2a1-PF5191: 11
5. J2a1-Z387: 7 (I think the breakdown would be interesting)
6. J2a1-Z6065: 6
7. J2a1-L210: 5
8. J2b-M205: 5
9. J2b-M241: 3 (All most likely under L283)
10. J2a2-PF5008: 3
11. J2a1-PF7431: 3
12. J2a1-S25258:1
13. J2a1-Z7671: 1

For Greek Cypriot J2 there was 102 samples, I nevgen predicted all of them as well.

Here is the Breakdown:

1. J2b-M205: 16
2. J2a1-Z387: 14
3. J2a1-M319: 13
4. J2a1-Z500: 12
5. J2a1-Z7700: 10 (J-F3133 on Yfull)
6. J2a1-PF5191: 7
7. J2a1-S25258: 7
8. J2a2-PF5008: 7
9. J2a1-L210: 6
10. J2b-M241: 4
11. J2a1-Z7671: 3
12. J2a1-Z6065: 3
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How many of those are under J2a-L26?
 
Y-chromosome phylogeographic analysis of the Greek-Cypriot population reveals elements consistent with Neolithic and Bronze Age settlements by Konstantinos Voskarides.
 
Mr Voskarides has a table #2 there that states 66% Anatolian dna and 24% Levantine dna and only 13% Greek dn. I cannot see how he comes up with those percents from the numbers he shows anywhere in the article. Can anyone here help clarify this for me? Thanks, Pericles.
 
This question is important because even Heraclides repeats those numbers in his work in 2017.
 
To make such an important statement as that, Voskarides should have specifically clarified which haplogroups he was interpreting as non-Greek. if I've missed something could someone point out what I missed please.
 
My own calculations, based on Voskarides charts and information, show roughly 50% Anatolian, 20% Levant (mainly Phoenician), and 30% Greek (not 13%).
 
It appears that there were three main Phoenician settlements in Cyprus in the 5th century BC, Kition (modern Larnica), Lapithos and Kyrenia.
 
During the fight with the Antigonids the army of Ptolemy ruthlessly destroyed the three Phoenician cities and enslaved their populations.
 
Voskarides:

https://investigativegenetics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13323-016-0032-8

Mr Voskarides has a table #2 there that states 66% Anatolian dna and 24% Levantine dna and only 13% Greek dn. I cannot see how he comes up with those percents from the numbers he shows anywhere in the article. Can anyone here help clarify this for me? Thanks, Pericles.

Here is table 2:

Table 2:

https://investigativegenetics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13323-016-0032-8#Tab2

Here in Heraclides you can see Voskarides' breakdowns:

https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0179474.s013
 
Pericles said:
Voskarides:

https://investigativegenetics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13323-016-0032-8

Mr Voskarides has a table #2 there that states 66% Anatolian dna and 24% Levantine dna and only 13% Greek dn. I cannot see how he comes up with those percents from the numbers he shows anywhere in the article. Can anyone here help clarify this for me? Thanks, Pericles.

Here is table 2:

Table 2:

https://investigativegenetics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13323-016-0032-8#Tab2

Here in Heraclides you can see Voskarides' breakdowns:

https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0179474.s013
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No answers. Well I'll also submit that if you detract the Slav impact in Greece and the Phoenician impact in Cyprus, the two populations become almost the same.
 
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