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    Quote Originally Posted by axualonso View Post
    Çok eziksin. Bu kadar ezik olma! Sen arnavut değilsin olamazsın. Benim yazdıklarımda senin için değil diğer milyonlarca benim kardeşim arnavutların. Türkçe yazdım sana cevap çünkü dedene nenene sor onlar bu dili biliyor bi zahmet sana ne yazdığımı anlatırlar. Kılıç artığısın Zanatis kılıç artığı. Senin soyunu kurutmamış osmanlı askeri şu an üzüldü bu yazdıkların yüzünden. Hayde maşallah dedene nenene...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanatis View Post
    I appreciate your kind words and the fact that you're trying to be polite. But let's get back to the things you wrote.

    Albania was the most developed country of Europe? Sorry to disappoint you and your school books, but Albania was the shythole of Europe. Most of our population massacred and what remained either fled to Italy and Greece (mostly women and children as you managed to kill our men), while the rest of us who survived went up in the mountains and lived like savages for 500 bloody years.

    We were once doing great for the European standards and that was mostly when we were under the influence of Venice, but the Ottomans burned to the ground all we had, cities, ports, churches. We could have had historical cities like Split and Kotor with Venice style buildings, but all was gone. All we have now is some Ottoman style underdeveloped towns that looked like shyt.

    The Ottomans needed our ancestors as soldiers and did their best to keep us wild and uncivilized, on top of strategically forcing conversion. They could have done the same with Bulgarians and Greeks for instance, but no, they kept them Christian to collect more tax from them and to work as farmers, merchants, etc., while our ancestors were getting paid to do your dirty work by conquering others.

    Every invader did that to us, like the best troops in the Roman Empire came from Illyricum, then the Byzantines (Albanians were given a type of autonomy with reduced taxes), then Venice, Naples, Spain, Holy Roman Empire, England, and France used the Albanian Stratioti as mercenaries, but that was nothing like what the Ottomans did.

    They crippled our nation and we're still suffering the consequences of that backward shytty Empire that exploited us like no other.

    You try to "buy" us with kind words like Albanians commanding the Balkans but we didn't command shyt. Greeks, Serbs, Bulgarians, all were allowed to keep their religion, you respected their clergy and the Sultan gave them a place in his Divan as his council, while our ancestors were simple soldiers, Janissaries, and sometimes commanders. But screw that as those were personal achievements and not favours from the mighty Ottoman Empire as they were used against Albanians for 500 years. We didn't fight and killed Turks, we fought and killed each other and other fellow Balkanites recruited by the Ottomans.

    That Albanian prof that said we would be more powerful than Germany is a big retarded joke who should leave Albania if he really exists and join your nation asap. How come Turkey isn't more powerful than Germany then?

    And cut the crap with the beautiful race thing. We aren't anything special and above the other Balkanites or Mediterraneans. We're all equally beautiful and human, all of us, Serbs, Greeks, Bosnians, Croatians, Bulgarians, Romanians, and the Ottoman Empire was an intruder than screwed things up in the ways that even the nasty Roman Empire would be impressed, reducing us to a bunch of backward savages that Europe still looks down on us. Our heritage in the Balkans is whatever building survived and the delicious cevapi/kebapi. So tourists come, enjoy the nature, take a few snaps of either ancient abandoned cities and eat some oriental dishes mostly and leave. No sightseeing in that part of the world.

    And 'jeton shqiptari' means the Albanian lives, which is a lie. The Albanian barely survived and we'll need a few more generations to recover from that 500 years of hell.

    So don't call us brothers and sweeten the deal with those lovely words. Human to human we can all be brothers, politically, the exact opposite. We ain't politicians who pretend all is good for the sake of trade of common interest.

    And the only sentence I got to stay on topic is that E-V13 didn't come with Turks
    Ok young boy, you mentioned killing eachother, but you still killing greeks in your mind. I dont know why but you are an hard greek oppenent in your real life! You are talking about greek enemies with your teenager albanian school mates in your residancy foreign country( i know where but this info is between us dont worry). I have much more personal info of you in my hand but it is enough for now. After i learn your age by the way, i am stopping discussion with you because your age is not enough with my level of knowledge...

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    @Zanatis

    after Ibrahim of Parga the Greatest Vezir that Ottoman empire ever had
    most of Grand Vezir were Albanians, and Bosnians
    as also even today a quite good % of Turkish army were and are Albanians
    and many famous high rank generals were and are Albanians.

    so axualonso view has a heavy point of truth.
    political and military Albanians were very high in the Sultan's gate after Suleiman the magnificent times.

    it is known that Greco-Byzantines who turn to Turks were the bone structure of early Ottoman empire,
    even as Valinde, Hatun etc
    even Serbs like Mara Despoina Hatun.
    even Croatians from Skradini
    but after Suleiman mostly Albanians and Bosnians kept the high political and military offices till late Ottoman times
    and even today.

    offcourse the today terminations of nationality is difficult to expressed,
    since many modern nationalities in ex Ottoman empire modern countries and modern Turkey
    become citizenships, usually after 3rd generation old nationality is abbandoned
    and 4rth generation is considered native.
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    Quote Originally Posted by axualonso View Post
    Ok young boy, you mentioned killing eachother, but you still killing greeks in your mind. I dont know why but you are an hard greek oppenent in your real life! You are talking about greek enemies with your teenager albanian school mates in your residancy foreign country( i know where but this info is between us dont worry). I have much more personal info of you in my hand but it is enough for now. After i learn your age by the way, i am stopping discussion with you because your age is not enough with my level of knowledge...
    This looks like a personal threat.... “I know where you live”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    @Zanatis

    after Ibrahim of Parga the Greatest Vezir that Ottoman empire ever had
    most of Grand Vezir were Albanians, and Bosnians
    as also even today a quite good % of Turkish army were and are Albanians
    and many famous high rank generals were and are Albanians.

    so axualonso view has a heavy point of truth.
    political and military Albanians were very high in the Sultan's gate after Suleiman the magnificent times.

    it is known that Greco-Byzantines who turn to Turks were the bone structure of early Ottoman empire,
    even as Valinde, Hatun etc
    even Serbs like Mara Despoina Hatun.
    even Croatians from Skradini
    but after Suleiman mostly Albanians and Bosnians kept the high political and military offices till late Ottoman times
    and even today.

    offcourse the today terminations of nationality is difficult to expressed,
    since many modern nationalities in ex Ottoman empire modern countries and modern Turkey
    become citizenships, usually after 3rd generation old nationality is abbandoned
    and 4rth generation is considered native.
    The truth is that Albania was very poor and isolated after Ottoman Empire, it was worst than when it entered, compared to other states.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EREN48 View Post
    Hey guys. You will read it. Because you told is tale. I am bored of you. you ignorant. You must learn history after you will think and write.
    Read it then learn.

    Bulgars:
    http://www.wikizero.org/index.php?q=...lraS9CdWxnYXJz

    Scythians
    http://www.wikizero.org/index.php?q=...25pYW5fQXZhcnM

    Atilla of Huns
    http://www.wikizero.org/index.php?q=...bGFfdGhlX0h1bg

    Pannonian Avars
    http://www.wikizero.org/index.php?q=...S9TY3l0aGlhbnM

    EV 13 is Turkic hablogroup.
    Please dont write tale.

    Your origin is not Alexander...
    Your origins Turk :)
    You are our children :)

    Dont forget !
    Balkan or Balcan is Turkish word :)
    Here we have a fellow Turk claiming more than they can chew.....


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    Pity, because the discussion had begun in an interesting way and continued in pursuing unjust nationalisms.Returning to the topic, there is the certainty that wherever there were Greek colonists and then Macedonians in particular there are E-V13.Even in Egypt just before the Christian era was spoken Greek and also Cleopatra belonged to a Macedonian stock. V13 are also present there to witness this presence.Important was the presence of Greek colonies in Anatolia where he resided then the capital of the bizantin empire.In a few words: This our ancestor V13, born in the Balkans expanded through the Greek stock throughout the Mediterranean and not.Probably an ancient people who served as the vehicle were the Focei.Then the Macedonians.Of course also the illiri.Only two words to calm the minds.Good day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blevins13 View Post
    This looks like a personal threat.... “I know where you live”


    Threatening to brutally murder someone over a haplogroup thread on eupedia. Now i know I've seen it all.
    mmmmmmmmm dooouuughhhnuuuutz

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    Quote Originally Posted by axualonso View Post
    Ok young boy, you mentioned killing eachother, but you still killing greeks in your mind. I dont know why but you are an hard greek oppenent in your real life! You are talking about greek enemies with your teenager albanian school mates in your residancy foreign country( i know where but this info is between us dont worry). I have much more personal info of you in my hand but it is enough for now. After i learn your age by the way, i am stopping discussion with you because your age is not enough with my level of knowledge...
    Gabel I don't give a shyt about what you know. Share them all here with everyone, my real name, my identity, my facebook page, my age.

    Dear mods, I officially give him permission to do as he pleases and share my identity so please don't give him an infraction or ban him for that. I'd love to see how much he knows about me, as if I'm someone hiding behind a computer. And I'm almost 30 so I have no idea what you're on about.

    Now you made me an enemy of Greece too? Funny how my playlists are full of Greek songs and I consider Greece probably the most beautiful country in the world. I criticize every country's politics and its retarded section of the population as much as I criticize my own, like the case of some Albanians who are nostalgic of the Ottoman Empire.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    @Zanatis

    after Ibrahim of Parga the Greatest Vezir that Ottoman empire ever had
    most of Grand Vezir were Albanians, and Bosnians
    as also even today a quite good % of Turkish army were and are Albanians
    and many famous high rank generals were and are Albanians.

    so axualonso view has a heavy point of truth.
    political and military Albanians were very high in the Sultan's gate after Suleiman the magnificent times.

    it is known that Greco-Byzantines who turn to Turks were the bone structure of early Ottoman empire,
    even as Valinde, Hatun etc
    even Serbs like Mara Despoina Hatun.
    even Croatians from Skradini
    but after Suleiman mostly Albanians and Bosnians kept the high political and military offices till late Ottoman times
    and even today.

    offcourse the today terminations of nationality is difficult to expressed,
    since many modern nationalities in ex Ottoman empire modern countries and modern Turkey
    become citizenships, usually after 3rd generation old nationality is abbandoned
    and 4rth generation is considered native.
    1) Ibrahim of Parga was Albanian too. Nice try.

    2) As I said, Albanians/Arvanites, Serbs, Montenegrins, and Bosnians were used for their military skills and Greeks were used as doctors, translators, farmers, fishermen, you name it. Greeks were the ones that served the Ottomans the most by actually becoming Turks. Talk about being slaves and doing their chores in Turkish houses because serving as mercenaries isn't as bad.

    3) Like I said, gaining political power is a personal achievement and has nothing to do with being Albanian. Being allowed to remain Christian, open Greek schools not only among Greek villages but also Albanian and Bulgarian ones.

    Out of 3000 schools in Albania, 1500 were Greek, 1000 Turkish, 500 Serbian, 30 Aromanian, and only 1 Albania which was eventually closed after a few months. So talk about privileges and serving.

    Quote Originally Posted by davef View Post


    Threatening to brutally murder someone over a haplogroup thread on eupedia. Now i know I've seen it all.

    No worries mate, they only act aggressive with Greeks and other non-Balkan Europeans. They know they will get severely brutalized by Albanians and Serbs everywhere in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanatis View Post
    Gabel I don't give a shyt about what you know. Share them all here with everyone, my real name, my identity, my facebook page, my age.

    Dear mods, I officially give him permission to do as he pleases and share my identity so please don't give him an infraction or ban him for that. I'd love to see how much he knows about me, as if I'm someone hiding behind a computer. And I'm almost 30 so I have no idea what you're on about.

    Now you made me an enemy of Greece too? Funny how my playlists are full of Greek songs and I consider Greece probably the most beautiful country in the world. I criticize every country's politics and its retarded section of the population as much as I criticize my own, like the case of some Albanians who are nostalgic of the Ottoman Empire.


    1) Ibrahim of Parga was Albanian too. Nice try.

    2) As I said, Albanians/Arvanites, Serbs, Montenegrins, and Bosnians were used for their military skills and Greeks were used as doctors, translators, farmers, fishermen, you name it. Greeks were the ones that served the Ottomans the most by actually becoming Turks. Talk about being slaves and doing their chores in Turkish houses because serving as mercenaries isn't as bad.

    3) Like I said, gaining political power is a personal achievement and has nothing to do with being Albanian. Being allowed to remain Christian, open Greek schools not only among Greek villages but also Albanian and Bulgarian ones.

    Out of 3000 schools in Albania, 1500 were Greek, 1000 Turkish, 500 Serbian, 30 Aromanian, and only 1 Albania which was eventually closed after a few months. So talk about privileges and serving.


    No worries mate, they only act aggressive with Greeks and other non-Balkan Europeans. They know they will get severely brutalized by Albanians and Serbs everywhere in Europe.
    wanted or not,

    it is not personal achievement a continoues presence
    in fact it is a relationship
    until the power absorves
    the political power of Albanians and Bosnians in the High Gate after 16nth century
    there was era that was tremendous
    even in the courts of law,
    famous Kadi (Qadi) were from Albanian origin also
    so your approach that only in military Albanians serve Ottomans is wrong,
    many Albanian families devastate to Con/polis and other cities of Ottoman empire,
    and since I am Greek and I know as you the Ottoman era
    just think why and how the movement of HadjiBectash was in chase-struggled in minor Asia
    but grew in Albania
    the you realize the powers of Albanians to the High Gate




    as for the son of Θεοφιλος
    sorry we all know who and what he was.
    contra his enemy who was Albanian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    wanted or not,

    it is not personal achievement a continoues presence
    in fact it is a relationship
    until the power absorves

    as for the son of Θεοφιλος
    sorry we all know who and what he was.
    contra his enemy who was Albanian
    I just banned two people, and you want to continue it? I took care of it. Get back to E-V13, people!

    Maybe this is where my husband gets that "testa dura", God help me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I just banned two people, and you want to continue it? I took care of it. Get back to E-V13, people!

    Maybe this is where my husband gets that "testa dura", God help me.

    ok

    i do not want to temp your υπομονη
    but you have enough κρατος so in your testa dura recogn the civilized and the *****

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    ok

    i do not want to temp your υπομονη
    but you have enough κρατος so in your testa dura recogn the civilized and the *****
    I assure you that "ci vuole pazienza" is engraved on my forehead. :) I wouldn't have survived without it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I just banned two people, and you want to continue it? I took care of it. Get back to E-V13, people!

    Maybe this is where my husband gets that "testa dura", God help me.
    If your husband is Calabrian then I'd put all my money on Albanian genetics. It's not a coincidence that brigandage "flourished" in Calabria among the Arbereshe and then the Ndrangheta with one of the most influential families being the ndrina Albanese.

    Back to the topic, there's nothing to discuss in here. E-V13 is not from Central Asia afaik and logically doesn't seem to be. But if it is, it definitely didn't come with Turks 8,000 years ago or more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanatis View Post
    If your husband is Calabrian then I'd put all my money on Albanian genetics. It's not a coincidence that brigandage "flourished" in Calabria among the Arbereshe and then the Ndrangheta with one of the most influential families being the ndrina Albanese.

    Back to the topic, there's nothing to discuss in here. E-V13 is not from Central Asia afaik and logically doesn't seem to be. But if it is, it definitely didn't come with Turks 8,000 years ago or more.
    Not totally Calabrian, but enough. Some of his ancestors spoke Griko until a couple of hundred years ago, and some lived very close to Arbereshe, so neither ancestry would surprise me. I was referring to the propensity to keep punching even when the other guy is down and out. The "war" continues forever. It also means that once having made a commitment to an idea, that idea will be held to sometimes in the face of all evidence and despite even severe consequence; it's taking "honor" or "pride" or whatever it is much too far, imo.

    I certainly hope you're not saying that there is any propensity genetically to criminal behavior in either the Albanians or the Calabrians. If you were casting ethnic aspersions like that you'd get another infraction. Are we clear?

    As to the substance of your second comment, I completely agree. T-rolls can say whatever they want. The evidence is clear.

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    I believe that E-v13 is the only Balkan haplogroup known so far.....its mutation probably has happened somewhere in the Danubian basin.....


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    Our new t-rolls are both banned, but only because I happened to see something when I scrolled down the recent activity thread.

    You have to pm a moderator when these things happen.
    I like diversity, but our t-rolls were nut jobs....hopefully we will see some others with an open mind in the future....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I certainly hope you're not saying that there is any propensity genetically to criminal behavior in either the Albanians or the Calabrians. If you were casting ethnic aspersions like that you'd get another infraction. Are we clear?
    That’s not what I meant and criminality was always defined by the ruling class.

    They saw them as brigands, I see them as determined people defending their land and rights.

    By that logic, all the heroes in the past were criminals. They defied the central system, were secretly organized, used violence, sacrificed the lives of many for their cause, etc.

    It may appear illogical to many here, but violent behavior/aggression (not necessarily bad) is not spread equally among all the human ethnic groups. If it’s proven that a group of people can physically have a more muscular build, or being taller, there’s no reason to deny that certain groups produce on average more testosterone than others which in return it can lead to more mathematical geniuses, more skilled sportsmen, and so on.

    You can find many counter examples for everything I said but I hope you get my point.

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    Çok eziksin. Bu kadar ezik olma! Sen arnavut değilsin olamazsın. Benim yazdıklarımda senin için değil diğer milyonlarca benim kardeşim arnavutların. Türkçe yazdım sana cevap çünkü dedene nenene sor onlar bu dili biliyor bi zahmet sana ne yazdığımı anlatırlar. Kılıç artığısın Zanatis kılıç artığı. Senin soyunu kurutmamış osmanlı askeri şu an üzüldü bu yazdıkların yüzünden. Hayde maşallah dedene nenene...
    By the way who knows the meaning of this....even with google translate is not clear???


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    Quote Originally Posted by blevins13 View Post
    By the way who knows the meaning of this....even with google translate is not clear???


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    Who cares man. That dedene nenene part screams mental problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanatis View Post
    That’s not what I meant and criminality was always defined by the ruling class.

    They saw them as brigands, I see them as determined people defending their land and rights.

    By that logic, all the heroes in the past were criminals. They defied the central system, were secretly organized, used violence, sacrificed the lives of many for their cause, etc.

    It may appear illogical to many here, but violent behavior/aggression (not necessarily bad) is not spread equally among all the human ethnic groups. If it’s proven that a group of people can physically have a more muscular build, or being taller, there’s no reason to deny that certain groups produce on average more testosterone than others which in return it can lead to more mathematical geniuses, more skilled sportsmen, and so on.

    You can find many counter examples for everything I said but I hope you get my point.
    I'll grant you that in the past "brigandage" may have been a response to oppressive, foreign governments or aristocracies, to government violence itself. I'll even grant you the excess "testosterone".

    However, I have more than a layperson's knowledge of modern criminal organizations. Let me be absolutely clear: there is nothing whatsoever noble, nothing manly in any sense about men who traffic in drugs, sell vulnerable women's bodies, endanger the environment for their own gain, murder to protect their profits, and on and on, whether it is in the U.S. or in Europe or anywhere else. Those men deserve hell on earth for what they do, and I would be highly offended if any attempt whatsoever was made by anyone whomsoever to draw connections between those people and the many hardworking, decent people, their genetic kin in a broad sense, perhaps, whom they also victimized and continue to victimize.

    Now, let's get back to E-V13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    However, I have more than a layperson's knowledge of modern criminal organizations. Let me be absolutely clear: there is nothing whatsoever noble, nothing manly in any sense about men who traffic in drugs, sell vulnerable women's bodies, endanger the environment for their own gain, murder to protect their profits, and on and on, whether it is in the U.S. or in Europe or anywhere else. Those men deserve hell on earth for what they do, and I would be highly offended if any attempt whatsoever was made by anyone whomsoever to draw connections between those people and the many hardworking, decent people, their genetic kin in a broad sense, perhaps, whom they also victimized and continue to victimize.
    Modern crimininality is usually the result of oppression and exploitation of certain regions. The lack of equal opportunities to put it in a better way.

    Take ex-Yugoslavia as an example with their fantastic athletes all over the world. There’s barely any famous football club in Europe without players from ex-Yugoslavia. Decades ago they could have all been war machines.

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