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    The first man in the Hebrew texts (Hebrew mythology). Why do you rely so much on the Bible? As a Christian you should consider first and foremost the Gospels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Adam was the first man. Period.
    There was non pre-Adamic whatsoever.
    This is satanic lie.

    And again you are spreading lies.
    Bible clearly define, that God created
    Adam about 6000 years ago on the
    sixth day of creation. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    That's awesome!

    We'll you just denied science. We have human (homo sapiens sapiens) remain dated by science to 100 thousand years ago in Eurasia, and in Africa even longer. We also discovered other hominids who lived in Eurasia before HSS, like Neanderthals. We also know that people interbreed with them, and modern humans carry part of their DNA. It is all in undisputed science form, the dating remains and their DNA, and well documented, through population genetics, evolution of HSS through last 50 ky, till today.

    It only doesn't make sense for religious zealots like Rethel.
    And you have also dinosaurs dated 20k years old, which you hipocritically don't admit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by noman View Post
    Ok, first of all. Not every religion believes in Adam and Eve, but Abrahamic. Second, it looks like you have never read any other religion completely. If you read, you will figure out that Manu in Hinduism is resembled as Noah due to the similarity of "Great Flood".Third, religion did talk about Pre Adamite era. I follow Sufism. Take a look!
    Yes, I read.
    The very fact, that I read it, does not make it true.

    Fourth, I am not spreading any lies.
    Yes, you are. If you are talking about Adam and Eve, and about
    Abraham's faith, and you are talking something else about them,
    than truth, then you are spreading lies.

    Fifth, if you really believe that Adam and Eve came 6000 years ago,
    And you just make it worse, putting a lie in my mouth.

    then you must have your family tree. Right? What generation of Adam and Eve are you?
    Idk, but probably some +/- 150.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diomedes View Post
    The first man in the Hebrew texts (Hebrew mythology). Why do you rely so much on the Bible? As a Christian you should consider first and foremost the Gospels.
    Why the Gospels?
    But, if you insist, the Gospel teaches:

    In reply he [Jesus] said: “Did YOU not read that he who
    created them from [the] beginning made them male
    and female
    and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his
    father and his mother and will stick to his wife, and the
    two will be one flesh’?"
    This is quote from Genesis 2.

    The same is quoting Paul the Apostole in Ephesians.

    Why people always make statements about the Bible, not having idea about her?

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    Yes, I agree. There are two sexes, male and female. I did not say the opposite.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Why the Gospels?
    But, if you insist, the Gospel teaches:

    In reply he [Jesus] said: “Did YOU not read that he who
    created them from [the] beginning made them male
    and female
    and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his
    father and his mother and will stick to his wife, and the
    two will be one flesh’?"
    This is quote from Genesis 2.

    The same is quoting Paul the Apostole in Ephesians.

    Why people always make statements about the Bible, not having idea about her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    And you have also dinosaurs dated 20k years old, which you hipocritically don't admit...
    There must have been dated by your scientists, lol. Anyway it is my older than your Universe not mine. Your world is collapsing not mine.

    There is a scientific consensus that dinosaurs were gone around 70 million years ago. 99.9% of dating Dinosaur bones come in big millions of years. If something comes in thousand of years must be a mistake, bad instrument calibration, misprint in publication or newspaper. But for you and your cult it is a proof. How crazy is this?!!! All your argumentation, all your "science" for gullible people, comes from looking for such mistakes. Do you realise how ridiculous it is? It only proves that people make mistakes, that we are not perfect. It doesn't prove that there are different laws of phisics in universe.
    Be wary of people who tend to glorify the past, underestimate the present, and demonize the future.

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    Unfortunately in our modern society you see this basic, yet essential teaching torn apart. I am talking mostly about the issue of relationships and the high divorce rate, and the many other "sins" of the modern world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    In reply he [Jesus] said: “Did YOU not read that he who
    created them from [the] beginning made them male
    and female
    and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his
    father and his mother and will stick to his wife, and the
    two will be one flesh’?"
    This is quote from Genesis 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    There must have been dated by your scientists,
    Unfortunatly not.
    I gave the link, check it.
    You show again, how close minded you are.

    lol. Anyway it is my older than your Universe not mine. Your world is collapsing not mine.
    1. No, becasue I do not rely on this method - you do.
    2. There are always other interpretations possible if something.
    As I said, I used to belive in Old Earth many years. Couple of
    thousands of years is not so big problem for me.

    There is a scientific consensus that dinosaurs were gone around 70 million years ago. 99.9% of dating Dinosaur bones come in big millions of years. If something comes in thousand of years must be a mistake, bad instrument calibration, misprint in publication or newspaper.
    Of course it has to be, to prove your false point, which you want to be true.
    Btw, non fossilized cells, neither poo, cannot survived millions of years. The
    more C14 - but it is, in every dinosaur's - they just do not want to measure it.

    But for you and your cult it is a proof.
    It is proof, that 1. evolution didn;t happen, 2. that wolrd is not so old, as you claim.
    It is enaugh. You cannot have billions of years old Earth, becasue the uranium aureoles proof that is not.
    The same with other planets of stars - there are conditions which make it impossible for them to be such old.
    But you simply don;t care - all you care is nicy theory which fits to your ungodly agenda.

    How crazy is this?!!! All your argumentation, all your "science" for gullible people, comes from looking for such mistakes. Do you realise how ridiculous it is? It only proves that people make mistakes, that we are not perfect. It doesn't prove that there are different laws of phisics in universe.
    Biggotry... biggotry... it is still in you... and blinds you...

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    Rethel, you are "The Crusader" bro! Give 'em some pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Unfortunatly not.
    I gave the link, check it.
    You show again, how close minded you are.
    You are ignoring 99% of science when bones where dated correctly without mistakes. In your case, we are talking of not only being closed minded but also blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    You are ignoring 99% of science when bones where dated correctly without mistakes. In your case, we are talking of not only being closed minded but also blind.
    LeBrok, you can't reason with people who are incapable of it. There are all manner of things about which reasonable people can disagree, but the age of the earth is not one of them.

    @Diomedes,
    Does the Orthodox Church not allow for annulments?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Yes, I read.
    The very fact, that I read it, does not make it true.
    LOL! How old are you 12? You think whatever you agree with right, no matter what the evidences are saying.


    Yes, you are. If you are talking about Adam and Eve, and about
    Abraham's faith, and you are talking something else about them,
    than truth, then you are spreading lies.
    See, you don't have any argument. All you are doing is attacking back with your emotions.

    And you just make it worse, putting a lie in my mouth.
    Not an argument


    Idk, but probably some +/- 150.
    You don't know, so how did you come up with that number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    LeBrok, you can't reason with people who are incapable of it. There are all manner of things about which reasonable people can disagree, but the age of the earth is not one of them.
    I know, I might be insane still trying and trying... and hoping that maybe a simple observations will open his eyes.

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    I think they do not, but I do not follow them closely and it's been years since I had Theology classes at school. The annulment is a something made by the state.

    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    @Diomedes,
    Does the Orthodox Church not allow for annulments?

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