Eupedia Forums
Site NavigationEupedia Top > Eupedia Forum & Japan Forum
Results 1 to 11 of 11

Thread: Reconstructed face of Pictish man

  1. #1
    Advisor Achievements:
    VeteranThree Friends50000 Experience PointsRecommendation Second Class
    Awards:
    Posting Award
    Angela's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-01-11
    Posts
    15,840
    Points
    310,152
    Level
    100
    Points: 310,152, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.6%


    Ethnic group
    Italian
    Country: USA - New York



    2 members found this post helpful.

    Reconstructed face of Pictish man



    See:
    http://www.archaeology.org/news/5737...d-pictish-face

    "According to a report in The Daily Record, the face of a Pictish man, whose remains were discovered in a cist burial in Highland Perthshire in the 1980s, has been recreated by forensic artist Hayley Fisher and Bob Will of GUARD Archaeology. The man is thought to have lived between A.D. 340 and 615, and to have died in his 40s. Additional study of the skeletal remains could reveal information on his diet and where he lived. The scientists will also try to recover a DNA sample. "



    Non si fa il proprio dovere perchè qualcuno ci dica grazie, lo si fa per principio, per se stessi, per la propria dignità. Oriana Fallaci

  2. #2
    Advisor Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteranTagger First Class50000 Experience PointsRecommendation First Class
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    LeBrok's Avatar
    Join Date
    18-11-09
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    10,331
    Points
    113,888
    Level
    100
    Points: 113,888, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b Z2109
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1c

    Ethnic group
    Citizen of the world
    Country: Canada-Alberta



    Do we know any excavated people of the past in Europe who were estimated to be 70-80 or older? Which is average age at death now. It has to be very seldom accurance, because I don't remember even one.
    Be wary of people who tend to glorify the past, underestimate the present, and demonize the future.

  3. #3
    Advisor Achievements:
    VeteranThree Friends50000 Experience PointsRecommendation Second Class
    Awards:
    Posting Award
    Angela's Avatar
    Join Date
    02-01-11
    Posts
    15,840
    Points
    310,152
    Level
    100
    Points: 310,152, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.6%


    Ethnic group
    Italian
    Country: USA - New York



    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    Do we know any excavated people of the past in Europe who were estimated to be 70-80 or older? Which is average age at death now. It has to be very seldom accurance, because I don't remember even one.
    I don't either. I think the oldest were about 50, and even that was rare.

  4. #4
    Advisor Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteranTagger First Class50000 Experience PointsRecommendation First Class
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    LeBrok's Avatar
    Join Date
    18-11-09
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    10,331
    Points
    113,888
    Level
    100
    Points: 113,888, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b Z2109
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1c

    Ethnic group
    Citizen of the world
    Country: Canada-Alberta



    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I don't either. I think the oldest were about 50, and even that was rare.
    I just finished watching a lecture about cemetery of medieval Poland. Buried women were 22 to 35, and men from 35 to 55, plus many children. Anyway, 50 corpses and nobody was older than 55, and this was an elite cemetery, which existed for 3 generations or so. Good old times, ha?!

  5. #5
    Regular Member Achievements:
    1 year registered1000 Experience Points
    Promenade's Avatar
    Join Date
    08-01-16
    Posts
    288
    Points
    4,459
    Level
    19
    Points: 4,459, Level: 19
    Level completed: 53%, Points required for next Level: 191
    Overall activity: 2.0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b-U106 R-L1
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1e

    Country: USA - New York



    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    Do we know any excavated people of the past in Europe who were estimated to be 70-80 or older? Which is average age at death now. It has to be very seldom accurance, because I don't remember even one.
    In the Roman catacombs there are gravestones from the imperial era with people living into their seventies, mostly men since women were likely to have died of childbirth.

  6. #6
    Elite member Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteran25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    25-10-11
    Location
    Brittany
    Age
    70
    Posts
    4,438
    Points
    41,095
    Level
    62
    Points: 41,095, Level: 62
    Level completed: 58%, Points required for next Level: 555
    Overall activity: 18.0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b - L21/S145*
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H3c

    Ethnic group
    more celtic
    Country: France



    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    I just finished watching a lecture about cemetery of medieval Poland. Buried women were 22 to 35, and men from 35 to 55, plus many children. Anyway, 50 corpses and nobody was older than 55, and this was an elite cemetery, which existed for 3 generations or so. Good old times, ha?!
    our/my peasant (ploughmen) ancestors lived as a mean around 50 years too, an that in the 1700/1800's - someones went far enough, but they were exceptions -

  7. #7
    Advisor Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteranTagger First Class50000 Experience PointsRecommendation First Class
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    LeBrok's Avatar
    Join Date
    18-11-09
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    10,331
    Points
    113,888
    Level
    100
    Points: 113,888, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b Z2109
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1c

    Ethnic group
    Citizen of the world
    Country: Canada-Alberta



    Quote Originally Posted by Promenade View Post
    In the Roman catacombs there are gravestones from the imperial era with people living into their seventies, mostly men since women were likely to have died of childbirth.
    Yes, the same with Egyptian pharaohs. Once you get to the top with much better hygiene, best food, carried around and separated from dirty and sick plebs, you can live much longer.

  8. #8
    Advisor Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteranTagger First Class50000 Experience PointsRecommendation First Class
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    LeBrok's Avatar
    Join Date
    18-11-09
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    10,331
    Points
    113,888
    Level
    100
    Points: 113,888, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b Z2109
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1c

    Ethnic group
    Citizen of the world
    Country: Canada-Alberta



    Quote Originally Posted by MOESAN View Post
    our/my peasant (ploughmen) ancestors lived as a mean around 50 years too, an that in the 1700/1800's - someones went far enough, but they were exceptions -
    50 back then was like 90 today. Of course if someone got through a childhood with 50% chance of dying.

  9. #9
    Regular Member Achievements:
    500 Experience Points31 days registered
    Ivar of Rasa Bol's Avatar
    Join Date
    11-10-19
    Location
    Raseborg
    Posts
    23
    Points
    695
    Level
    6
    Points: 695, Level: 6
    Level completed: 73%, Points required for next Level: 55
    Overall activity: 3.0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    I1-M253 --->I-Y46754
    MtDNA haplogroup
    U5b2a6

    Ethnic group
    Finnish-Swedish 50%, Finnish 50%
    Country: Finland



    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    See:
    http://www.archaeology.org/news/5737...d-pictish-face

    "According to a report in The Daily Record, the face of a Pictish man, whose remains were discovered in a cist burial in Highland Perthshire in the 1980s, has been recreated by forensic artist Hayley Fisher and Bob Will of GUARD Archaeology. The man is thought to have lived between A.D. 340 and 615, and to have died in his 40s. Additional study of the skeletal remains could reveal information on his diet and where he lived. The scientists will also try to recover a DNA sample. "

    Good Grief I could swear that I´ve seen alike man in Finland not so many years ago. I understood him to be Finnish. All features down to lips match, he was also serious looking with such long hair. I´ll have to stop him, and take a photo if we meet again on the street

  10. #10
    Elite member Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteran25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    25-10-11
    Location
    Brittany
    Age
    70
    Posts
    4,438
    Points
    41,095
    Level
    62
    Points: 41,095, Level: 62
    Level completed: 58%, Points required for next Level: 555
    Overall activity: 18.0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b - L21/S145*
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H3c

    Ethnic group
    more celtic
    Country: France



    1 members found this post helpful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivar of Rasa Bol View Post
    Good Grief I could swear that I´ve seen alike man in Finland not so many years ago. I understood him to be Finnish. All features down to lips match, he was also serious looking with such long hair. I´ll have to stop him, and take a photo if we meet again on the street
    If the reconstitutionis exact, he goes very close to my 'croma-borreby' subtype, found today as a more or less common minortiy type among all northern Europe pops and Germany, and at a lower level among Brits, for the most on the eastern coasts (supposed "Picts" so today East Grampians, and as some minority among Saxons and more typically among Danes (Yorkshire b.i.); the robust element in the East-Baltic mean-type.
    In North it is the opposite to 'nordic' slender type, in the popular and so common opposition of "vulgar" vs "distinguished" stereotypes found in almost all pops.

  11. #11
    Elite member Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteran25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    25-10-11
    Location
    Brittany
    Age
    70
    Posts
    4,438
    Points
    41,095
    Level
    62
    Points: 41,095, Level: 62
    Level completed: 58%, Points required for next Level: 555
    Overall activity: 18.0%

    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b - L21/S145*
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H3c

    Ethnic group
    more celtic
    Country: France



    That said, we see him here just from face. His frontal seems a bit narrow for a 'borreby', (we are confused very often with these frontal views) so it could be rather a partly evolved 'croma' type; but 'croma' seems to me the/ or/ a basis of some 'borreby' types so... Sorry for this typology access.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •