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    Ethnic group
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    Country: Italy



    Quote Originally Posted by mwauthy View Post
    Her Grandma is from Naples/Amalfi area and her Grandpa is from Northern Italy. So 1/4 Northern. It depends on whether or not you consider Naples closer to central Italy or Southern Italy for the other 1/4.
    As Davef said, there is no doubt that Naples/Amalfi is in southern Italy. From which area of northern Italy the other 1/4?
    Last edited by Pax Augusta; 27-12-17 at 01:46.

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
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    Country: UK - Scotland



    Quote Originally Posted by mwauthy View Post
    What are your DNA Land scores?
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    Northwest European 95%, South/Central Europe 2.7%, Ambiguous 2.2%.

    LivingDNA
    GB&I 94.3%, Scandinavia 4.6%, Kurdish 1.1%. This is the highest Scandinavian score of all tested companies to date which is surprising since most other tests show 0%. You would think being a Scot, Scandinavian would show across all testing platforms.

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    Ethnic group
    Hainaut Belgium and Quebec Canada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    As Davef said, there is no doubt that Naples/Amalfi is in southern Italy. From which area of northern Italy the other 1/4?
    I’m not aware of the exact location in Nothern Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amerijoe View Post
    DNA.LAND
    Northwest European 95%, South/Central Europe 2.7%, Ambiguous 2.2%.

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    GB&I 94.3%, Scandinavia 4.6%, Kurdish 1.1%. This is the highest Scandinavian score of all tested companies to date which is surprising since most other tests show 0%. You would think being a Scot, Scandinavian would show across all testing platforms.
    There are a lot of overlapping alleles between Northwestern Europe, Great Britain, and Scandinavia because of cross migrations over millennia. Just because you match closer to modern UK reference samples does not mean that there is not a lot of Scandinavian influence in the UK or in your genome since the Nordic Bronze Age. It’s not one or the other when it comes to these percentages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwauthy View Post
    There are a lot of overlapping alleles between Northwestern Europe, Great Britain, and Scandinavia because of cross migrations over millennia. Just because you match closer to modern UK reference samples does not mean that there is not a lot of Scandinavian influence in the UK or in your genome since the Nordic Bronze Age. It’s not one or the other when it comes to these percentages.
    I am under no allusion of the interpretive nature of commercial genetic testing. Just that the inconsistencies in that interpretation. I was schooled and worked in an area related to the physical sciences where computation and formula interpretation were exacting. Ancestry testing by many of these companies borders on novelty science at best.

    When I first decided to pursue my father’s origin, I assumed he fell within one of the Scottish clans. Not only did my dna not fall within a Scot clan, my ydna didn’t even fall within the British Isles. The dna has a great affinity for NW Europe in which Scandinavia falls.

    Signed up to join FTDNA Scottish Project. Listed me as not Scottish but possibly Scandinavian. Joined Scandinavian Project, listed as ungrouped. Accepted the fact even though being native born, my dna is an outlier with no matches within recent history. The two recent BigY matches seem to have brought me back to the Isles. Even though it’s 600 yrs. it gives me hope, more may materialize.

    Note, using my maternal aunt as a proxie for my mum, her Ancestry Scandinavian is 10%, mine is 0%. To conclude, I really don’t care what labels are used in my dna interpretation, as long as the underlying data is correct. Hopefully, one day these science may make these interpretation discussions irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davef View Post
    There's that mandatory Sephardic score from ftdna
    Same percentage of Sephardic as well at 14% as my wife. Coincidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwauthy View Post
    Same percentage of Sephardic as well at 14% as my wife. Coincidence?
    They're (Sephardics) European Jews with heavy Southern European like genes (Ashkenazi in same boat in that regard) plus ftdna gravitating everyone towards them as we see in this thread. This issue needs to be cleaned up or people will get confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davef View Post
    They're (Sephardics) European Jews with heavy Southern European like genes (Ashkenazi in same boat in that regard) plus ftdna gravitating everyone towards them as we see in this thread. This issue needs to be cleaned up or people will get confused.
    When Kurd created his k25 and k29 algorithm he left out those two components because some samples were getting false positives. Doesn’t make sense to me to associate genetic alleles with ethnicity or religion. It can be very misleading. Perhaps in the future companies will release allele reports and then you can see how common certain alleles you have are around the world or with ancient samples.

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