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    Found some old pics of me with long hair, from when I was 19.



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    Insitome Results! (Neanderthal)

    Was Lorenzo De Medici a Neanderthal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Was Lorenzo De Medici a Neanderthal?
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    Man what an ugly face

    He certainly had neanderthal dna though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Man what an ugly face

    He certainly had neanderthal dna though.
    I just saw this. He was indeed ugly, but what specifically makes him Neanderthal looking? :)

    I always thought his looks popped up in one of his relatives...Charles Stuart, King Charles II of England


    I think they're both "jolie laide", pretty ugly, or, because they're men, sexy-ugly in a bizarre way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I just saw this. He was indeed ugly, but what specifically makes him Neanderthal looking? :)
    A pronounced forehead.

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    Salento, I don't think he's even in the running for most Neanderthal looking, or in the ugly human being category.

    On the other hand, Nicolay Valuev...




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    Wow. I'm thinking Steroids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I just saw this. He was indeed ugly, but what specifically makes him Neanderthal looking? :)

    I always thought his looks popped up in one of his relatives...Charles Stuart, King Charles II of England


    I think they're both "jolie laide", pretty ugly, or, because they're men, sexy-ugly in a bizarre way.
    Since he's non-African, I figured he must have it. But he certainly meets some of the physical characteristics described by Maciamo. Particularly his nose, supraobital torus, small chin and hair texture.

    http://www.eupedia.com/europe/neande...nd_myths.shtml

    All non-Africans today may have a roughly equal proportion of Neanderthal DNA, but some of the most visible physical traits appear to have been inherited especially by modern Europeans, and northern Europeans in particular. Here is a list of traits that distinguished Neanderthals from Homo sapiens, but that you could also have inherited if you are of European or Western Eurasian descent.



    • Occipital bun : a protuberance of the occipital bone (back of the head) that looks like a hair knot. You have it if you can feel a rounded bone just above the back of your neck (same height as the ears).
    • Low, flat, elongated skull : What matters here is especially the 'elongated skull', as opposed to the back of the skull falling almost vertically, like all East Asians, and most Anatolian, Caucasians and Eastern Europeans. Elongated skull are particularly common in Scandinavia, in the British Isles and in Iberia.
    • Retromolar space posterior to the third molar: i.e. an empty space behind the "wisdom teeth".
    • Supraorbital torus : protruding eyebrow bone (including big deep eye cavity between the eye and eyebrow).
    • Bigger, rounder eyes than average.
    • Broad, projecting nose : angle of the nose bone going more upward than average (not falling straight like a "Greek nose").
    • Bony projections on the sides of the nasal opening : i.e. nose bone making a "triangle" between the nose and cheeks/orbits.
    • Little or no protruding chin
    • Larger mental foramen in mandible for facial blood supply : this means that the side jaw and cheek are bigger or better supplied in blood than average. This increased blood supply could result in the cheeks being red (like blushing) when doing physical exercise or when the weather is cold.
    • Short, bowed shoulder blades : i.e. shoulder bones curving toward the front more than average.
    • Large round finger tips : typically "flat" and wide finger tips, especially the thumb (e.g. if your thumb is more than 1.5 cm wide).
    • Rufosity : i.e. having red hair, or brown hair with red pigments, or natural freckles.
    • Fair skin, hair and eyes : Neanderthals are believed to have had blue or green eyes, as well as fair skin and light hair. Having spent 300,000 years in northern latitudes, five times longer than Homo sapiens, it is only natural that Neanderthals should have developed these adaptive traits first.
    Also, Professor John Hawks, claims in his blog Tuscans have the highest amount of Neanderthal admixture in Europe according to the 1000 genome project. I did some other searches to try to verify the claim further, but came up dry. However, I see you've already tackled this claim : )

    Edit: Perhaps Tuscans do have a high amount of Neanderthal cognition though, since it does enlarge the primary visual cortex according to that one study. Perhaps that made them great artists. Though as you pointed out on the first page, the small sample size leaves doubt to the claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Wow. I'm thinking Steroids?
    I don't know. If that's the culprit, it wasn't worth it!

    There are so many so called "reproductions" of Neanderthals. I have no idea which ones might be more accurate.





    For a comparison:

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    Insitome Neanderthal Update:

    98.2% Modern Human DNA
    1.8% Neanderthal DNA



    I can totally feel THE BEAST creeping up in me every time I'm stuck in traffic. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Insitome Neanderthal Update:

    98.2% Modern Human DNA
    1.8% Neanderthal DNA



    I can totally feel THE BEAST creeping up in me every time I'm stuck in traffic. :)


    Yeah, mine updated too with the same results.

    Though I see I have lost one of my Neanderthal traits for pathogen recognition.



    I recently got my raw data analyzed by impute.me, and they determined this to be my hair pigmentation:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post


    Yeah, mine updated too with the same results.

    Though I see I have lost one of my Neanderthal traits for pathogen recognition.



    I recently got my raw data analyzed by impute.me, and they determined this to be my hair pigmentation:
    The rest of my results:
    we both get 1.8 Neanderthal, with Learning and Fat Storage in Common.

    We carry the Arctic gene through the Fat Storage, but I still can’t stand the cold. :)

    ... A genetic shortcut that gave your Arctic ancestors the ability to survive in new, frigid environments ...




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    Inherited Neanderthal Traits


    Pigmentation Jovialis
    What
    A unique Neanderthal version of the gene MC1R, associated with fair or red hair and lighter skin.
    Why
    A genetic variant that became widespread among modern humans because of the advantages it conferred in areas with less sunlight.
    How
    Interbreeding between modern humans and Neanderthals.

    Learning Jovialis&Salento
    What
    Shared versions of genes associated with visual learning, memory and cognition that suggest similarities in the psychology of modern humans and Neanderthals.
    Why
    Genetic variation that modern humans share with Neanderthals, inherited from our common ancestors.
    How
    Genetic variants shared by modern humans and Neanderthals.

    Fat Storage J&S
    What
    The Denisovan (East Asian Neanderthal) mutation in the WARS2 gene that affects fat storage.
    Why
    A genetic shortcut that gave your Arctic ancestors the ability to survive in new, frigid environments different from their original home on the African savanna.
    How
    Interbreeding between modern humans and Denisovans.

    Pathogen Recognition S
    What
    Neanderthal versions of genes involved in the innate immune response, the immune system's first line of defense against pathogens.
    Why
    These genes remain in the human genome today because they gave your modern human ancestors a critical adaptation — defense against newly encountered microorganisms.
    How
    Interbreeding between modern humans and Neanderthals.

    Viral Immune Response S
    What
    Neanderthal version of immune system genes adapted to microorganisms in the Eurasian environment.
    Why
    These genes remain in the human genome today because they gave your ancestors a critical advantage — defense against newly encountered pathogens during their rapid adaptation to life outside of Africa.
    How
    Interbreeding between modern humans and Neanderthals.

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    The new Vindija genome also allowed the researchers to better calculate how much Neandertal DNA different groups of humans outside of Africa have inherited. East Asians, with 2.3%–2.6% of Neandertal DNA, topped people from western Asia and Europe, who had 1.8%–2.4%. Prüfer and his colleagues confirmed that the ancestors of the 122,000-year-old Altai Neandertal had also interbred with H. sapiens in a much earlier encounter that took place more than 130,000 years ago.

    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...ave-in-Croatia

    http://science.sciencemag.org/content/358/6363/655
    I bet the percentage was updated to reflect newer finding such as this one. The previous results came from before this paper came out, I believe.

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