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never heard such.
maybe I am wrong,
but I did not heard such thing
never heard such.
maybe I am wrong,
but I did not heard such thing
We work for you and now you're angry.
I think is on the supplementary table (Exel) from the Mathieson paper.
sample ID: I3948 (zemunica cave, croatia). Nearly 5800-6000 BC.
Albanians have around 20% of Slavs genes, we know that exist records of Red Croatia to Durrës in Albania and Slavic invasions to the Greece, possible that these toponyms are of those newly arrived Slavs.
Part of Croats are Albanian origin and also part of Albanians are Croatian origin. It is genetics there is no hiding.
For me Albanians are descendants of the Illyrians.
I have to call it Albanian because it is in today's Albanians.
I dont think e1b is of albanian origin. Neither is r1b(or a) based on a modern nation
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Are you Albanian from Croatia? It is not offense Albanians are good entrepreneurs in Croatia.
What you say could be possible. Albanian ancestors lived in Carpathian and beyond (Romania, Moldavia, Ukraine, Slovakia). For example Beskids mountains is possible Albanian word bjeshkë (what is commonly known, and there is in Wikipedia). As ancestors of Croats possible lived in similar region (Western Ukraine-Southern Poland), it is possible that they mixed.
So when Free Dacian Carpi arrived in Mat area in today's Albania it is possible they had partly Croatian blood.
Theoretically it is possible because geographical location. Take in consideration that Albanian (original words, without Romanian Latin and other loans) has a closeness with Balto-Slavic.
But I don't think that in time of Free Dacians we can speak about Croats as separated Slavic entity.
It is same to say that for you earth is flat.
But what if earth is not flat?
Austrian scholars Matzinger and Scumacher claim Albanians have nothing with Illyrians.
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/austrian-scholars-leave-albania-lost-for-words
And to whom to trust more. They are University researchers and authorities, you are not their level, surely.
Conclusion based on your opinion and above mentioned Austrian scholars:
Albanians are not descendants of Illyrians.
I think is on the supplementary table (Exel) from the Mathieson paper.
sample ID: I3948 (zemunica cave, croatia). Nearly 5800-6000 BC.
(I have no intention of magnification of Emperor Dusan, I'm not interested in that, I just gave an example for the wrong logic).
Are you Albanian from Croatia? It is not offense Albanians are good entrepreneurs in Croatia.
What you say could be possible. Albanian ancestors lived in Carpathian and beyond (Romania, Moldavia, Ukraine, Slovakia). For example Beskids mountains is possible Albanian word bjeshkë (what is commonly known, and there is in Wikipedia). As ancestors of Croats possible lived in similar region (Western Ukraine-Southern Poland), it is possible that they mixed.
So when Free Dacian Carpi arrived in Mat area in today's Albania it is possible they had partly Croatian blood.
It is same to say that for you earth is flat.
Austrian scholars Matzinger and Scumacher claim Albanians have nothing with Illyrians.
Speculation that one clade comes from the Albanian hills has no significance.
Yes I found it
E-M78 V-68
I actually don't know how to call it (or even interpret).
It is E-M78 and it has the L618 mutation.
Downstream the L618 there is only E-V13 (as by YTree at least).
But this sample is not E-V13 as this mutation did not occur yet.
Maybe E-L618 (V13*)
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I can say that people with E1b in Albania are probably of Illyrian origin if genetics says otherwise i respected that.
Illyrian? Which sample? Scientific paper, authors. From which epoch? 1,2 century AD, or BC or what.
Did you read papers about genetic genealogy? Scientists are very clear, if someone looks today's population and he wants to make conclusions about past it is waste of time. Croats say: zgubidan. Because populations changed, populations are changing, (and in future populations will change).
So you didn't give us no one finding about Albanians as descendant of Illyrians, only your own speculations. You didn't prove your hypothesis. Sorry, but Austrian scientists Matzinger and Scumacher are relevant in relation to you, they are scientists and authorities. According them Albanians are not descendants of Illyrians.
Archaeologists from the former Yugoslavia highlighted the continuity between the Bronze and succeeding Iron Age (especially in regions such as Donja Dolina, central Bosnia-Glasinac, and northern Albania (Mat river basin)), ultimately developing the so-called "autochthonous theory" of Illyrian genesis.
The Bronze Age lasts from 2000 to 750 BC. A
northern Albania (Mat river basin
All mutations behind CTS5856 exist in Albania and Albanians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrians
https://postimg.org/image/4qxnhdqsb/
Subclade CTS5856 4700 years old, north Albania.
All mutations behind CTS5856 exist in Albania and Albanians.
Obviously all Albanian mutations are in the area of Albania and wider old around 4000 to 100 years.
27,5% Albanians and 47% Albanians from Kosovo with E1b CTS5856, live in south Balkan 4700 to 100 years (their ancestors).
Are they part of Ilirians or not..??
You didn't give ancient samples, obviously you have no genetic evidence from ancient epoches, you did nothing.
No Illyrian. You are in mistake. But I will explain you detailed, enjoy, nice time in Croatia.
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