Canaanite dna

This lifestyle seems to also be savage, similar with Sarmatians, imagine if these savage races bred with eachother likely they descendants would be some tough customers
 
Runofmillsukrainian said:
This lifestyle seems to also be savage, similar with Sarmatians, imagine if these savage races bred with eachother likely they descendants would be some tough customers
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Human sacrifice was practiced also by Mayans, Celts, Romans. It's not unique to any ethnicity but was a norm in many parts of Europe and the Middle East a long time ago.
 
Canaanite was a cultural border not a genetic one. Bible never claimed they were genetically wiped only the pagans. There is no historical data for the continuation of Canaaites.
 
ihype02 said:
Canaanite was a cultural border not a genetic one. Bible never claimed they were genetically wiped only the pagans. There is no historical data for the continuation of Canaaites.
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The pagan Canaanite religion lived on and strong until roughly the 6th century BC when the Romans took over the Carthaginian Empire. The Canaanites and Phoenicians both came from Lebanon so the Lebanonese do hold a strong claim to Canaanite ancestry. :) Both Punic and Phoenician languages come from the Canaanite language.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicia
 
I am sorry I did not know about Proto-Canaanite alphabet and others. I need to do more research.

Phoenician was a language originally spoken in the coastal (Mediterranean) region then called "Canaan" in Phoenician, Hebrew, Old Arabic, and Aramaic, "Phoenicia" in Greek and Latin, and "Pūt" in the Egyptian language. It is a part of the Canaanite subgroup of the Northwest Semitic languages. Other members of the family are Hebrew, Ammonite, Moabite and Edomite.
 
ihype02 said:
I am sorry I did not know about Proto-Canaanite alphabet and others. I need to do more research.

Phoenician was a language originally spoken in the coastal (Mediterranean) region then called "Canaan" in Phoenician, Hebrew, Old Arabic, and Aramaic, "Phoenicia" in Greek and Latin, and "Pūt" in the Egyptian language. It is a part of the Canaanite subgroup of the Northwest Semitic languages. Other members of the family are Hebrew, Ammonite, Moabite and Edomite.
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Not a problem, it happens to the best of us. To me the beauty of history is to learn and to rediscover a long ago land; like a children's story in a way. No matter how many years you study history, there are always more to uncover and learn. :) Here is a little quote one of our Moderators wrote a couple of years ago on Canaanite DNA.
Maciamo said:
The Phoenicians

The unique colonization pattern of the Phoenicians and the isolation of some of their colonies (Ibiza, Sardinia, Malta) have made it easy to identify their genetic signature. The Phoenician population was already very mixed 3000 years ago : E-V22, J1, J2, J2a4b, J2a4b1, G2a, R1a and R1b1a. E-V22 and R1b1a are quite specific to Levantines (Syrians, Lebanese, Druzes, Jews, Palestinians).
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http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25163-Y-DNA-haplogroups-of-ancient-civilizations


 
Angela said:
According to the paper the Canaanites are alive and well. They're the Lebanese. :) I could make an argument that perhaps the Jews share a lot of that ancestry too.

Or perhaps you can make an argument that Palestinians share a lot of that ancestry too?
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Cdrny said:
Angela said:
According to the paper the Canaanites are alive and well. They're the Lebanese. :) I could make an argument that perhaps the Jews share a lot of that ancestry too.
Or perhaps you can make an argument that Palestinians share a lot of that ancestry too?
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I could indeed, but I think the Muslim Palestinians have also absorbed ancestry from tribes which arrived with the Muslim migrations after the time of Mohammed.

Just as, btw, the Jews have absorbed ancestry from other peoples, how much and from whom depending on where they lived in the interim.
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religions like christianity and islam which were diffused en masse cannot be taken as reference to a genetic allocation .. since peoples especially in the middle east changed religion so often .. and i can give a lot of examples of that ..

lebanese muslim for example , can be divided into 2 cathegoris : sunni and shia ..
the shia of lebanon , are descendent of banu amilah tribes , who were christians in origin wiki/Banu_Amilah
same story of christian of lebanon , who divide among various sects .. but many traces their origins to the christian arab tribes . wiki/Ghassanids

only the druze can be considered a separate cluster since they dont do mixed marriages .
 
Das said:
ashkenazi are canaanite as much as i am viking ...
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40-50% of there total genomes:cool-v:
And thats like been in another yard for 2000 years pretty amazing :shocked::cool-v:
 
kingjohn said:
40-50% of there total genomes:cool-v:
And thats like been in another yard for 2000 years pretty amazing :shocked::cool-v:
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curious about a match between iranian jews / Kurdish jews and ashkenazi ..


check this


Eurogenes K13 original spredsheet


Distance to:DAS
6.41536437Lebanese_Muslim
6.71259264Kurdish_Jewish
6.84330330Lebanese_Druze
7.12600168Iranian_Jewish
8.48731995Lebanese_Christian
9.09784590Syrian
9.64367668Assyrian
10.55354443Samaritan
11.13959604Jordanian
11.41120064Palestinian
12.01208558Cyprian
14.03015681Georgian_Jewish
17.29966763Armenian
17.99828325Bedouin
18.30808565Turkish
18.50071890Tunisian_Jewish
19.25168564Libyan_Jewish
20.77344459Azeri
20.94421161Sephardic_Jewish
22.67357052Kurdish
22.68051146Iranian
22.79691426Italian_Jewish
23.11686397Algerian_Jewish
23.64473091Egyptian
25.28185120South_Italian
25.36079849Ashkenazi
26.65127201East_Sicilian
27.36857139Central_Greek
28.87219597Yemenite_Jewish
29.26054511Saudi
30.38269902Italian_Abruzzo
31.38178453West_Sicilian
32.84824196Turkmen
34.16347757Tunisian
34.37763517Greek_Thessaly
34.50096810Kumyk
35.72090284Georgian
36.15970686Algerian
37.10123987Abhkasian
37.94568882Adygei
37.99114897Mozabite_Berber
38.64866621Moroccan
38.90928938Tuscan
38.92423538Balkar
40.14037992Ossetian
40.36663226Kabardin
40.84031954North_Ossetian
41.99240527Lezgin
42.27311794Chechen
42.28913099Bulgarian
42.70369422Nogay
44.56473381Afghan_Tadjik
44.57456562Tabassaran
44.88449398Romanian
46.29941468Tadjik
46.36372504North_Italian
49.21836344Afghan_Turkmen
49.48449858Serbian
49.78836410Afghan_Pashtun
50.33742345Makrani
51.22992485Uzbeki
51.49458030Aghan_Hazara
54.64697247Spanish_Extremadura
54.80540667Uygur
55.05511784Moldavian
55.09821231Portuguese
55.28293498Hazara
55.50743374Spanish_Andalucia
55.76963511Spanish_Murcia
56.64390612Spanish_Galicia
56.83322004Brahui
56.90927517Spanish_Valencia
56.93487156Balochi
57.35990673Sardinian
57.48640448Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon




CLEAR OUTPUTMAX OUTPUT NUMBER: ADD GRADIENT - YESGRADIENT FROM: GRADIENT TO:
RUN ALLDAS

Distance to:DAS
7.51737321R68_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
9.10608039R76_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
9.42519496MA2210_Anatolia_EBA.SG_4700_ybp
9.4353802365_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3650_ybp
9.49241276R42_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
9.61965176R38_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
10.46897798R1547_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
10.57707426R70_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
10.62266445R1550_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
10.7358744454_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3770_ybp
10.96244498R67_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
11.10126119Canaanite_ERS1790730_
11.29358668Sidon_BA_ERS1790730_
12.16877562MA2205_Anatolia_MLBA.SG_3800_ybp
12.54996813R71_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
13.63956378MA2213_Anatolia_EBA.SG_4700_ybp
13.77945935R130_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
14.22739259R126_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial
14.31325959R1551_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
14.74115667MA2206_Anatolia_MLBA.SG_3800_ybp
15.00437603I2683_Anatolia_EBA_4494_ybp
15.36099932MA2200_Anatolia_MLBA.SG_3800_ybp
15.41945524Canaanite_ERS1790733_
15.41945524Sidon_733_Lebanon_
15.54652373caananite_ERS1790733_caananite_ERS1790733_
15.54652373Canaanite_
15.54652373Sidon_BA_ERS1790733_
15.5801989746_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3750_ybp
15.64426093R41_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
15.8693698775_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3750_ybp
15.88845807R78_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
15.88857451I2062_Israel_MLBA_3197_ybp
16.1160168863_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3650_ybp
16.28303719R75_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
16.30681146R66_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
16.68044064R72_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
16.87856037R123_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial
16.97463402I2499_Anatolia_EBA_4604_ybp
17.17169473R43_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
17.22264498Sidon_BA_ERS1790731_
17.28540135Sidon_731_Lebanon_
17.68985868R73_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
17.70407015R115_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
17.85628181R134_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
17.92899607R128_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial
18.11839121R34_Lazio_Rome_Early_Medieval_Italy
18.16486994R81_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
18.29322552MA2212_Anatolia_EBA.SG_4700_ybp
18.37356797Canaanite_ERS1790729_
18.50771461Sidon_BA_ERS1790729_
18.77917730R1543_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
18.87705221I2495_Anatolia_EBA_4377_ybp
18.88436920R1545_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
18.90863030MA2203_Anatolia_MLBA.SG_3800_ybp
19.19347285I1584_Anatolia_C_5776_ybp
19.79747459R1548_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
19.84235873R44_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
19.90023618R40_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
19.91730403R39_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
20.02735629R50_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
20.07587358Canaanite_ERS1790732_
20.13468649Sidon_BA_ERS1790732_
20.18364932R850_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Iron_Age
20.26639583R133_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
20.52213926CL30_longobard_north_italy
20.77857550col003_col003_
21.33556655CL38_longobard_north_italy
21.47480384i1632_areni_merged_
21.52246268CL25_longobard_north_italy
21.52519222col002_col002_F_H_
21.63410964I1407_Armenia_C_5875_ybp
22.091385203DT26_England_Roman_MiddleEast.SG_1750_ybp
22.19530356I1632_Armenia_C_6065_ybp
22.21262704R30_Lazio_Rome_Early_Medieval_Italy
22.49097819R69_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
22.52028863col006_col006_
23.10727807Ker1_Russia_Crimea_Pantikapaion.SG_1622_ybp
23.21923125R1544_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
23.29423105R114_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
23.32155441R137_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
23.49895955I1955_Iran_Ganj_Dareh_H_493_ybp
23.70096623R45_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
23.87344969I1665_IRAN_CHL_
24.26523233R51_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
24.49148628Chalcolithic_Age_Anatolian_Barcinhoyuk_Turkey_3943 _BC
24.56363369R65_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy
24.77170563R53_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy
24.81349230R54_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy
24.83018123R58_Lazio_Rome_Medieval_Italy
24.93484309R436_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
25.04003395R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
25.13343590Ovaören_Topakhöyük_AnatoliaEBA_MA2212_Turkey_27 0002000_BC
25.31644722R56_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy
25.53817535R35_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
25.54666514I1634_Armenia_C_6145_ybp
25.55484494R136_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
25.61793708I1705_Jordan_EBA_4032_ybp
26.06494965I1730_Jordan_EBA_4344_ybp
26.12195628F38_Iran_IA.SG_2852_ybp
26.27637342R47_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial


Eurogenes K13 updated


Distance to:DAS
6.13059540Iraqi_Jew
6.41536437Lebanese_Muslim
6.52816207Nusayri
6.71259264Kurdish_Jewish
6.84330330Lebanese_Druze
8.48731995Lebanese_Christian
8.61307146Mandean
8.72058484Assyrian_West
9.07888209Assyrian_South
9.09784590Syrian
9.59731212Assyrian_North
10.55354443Samaritan
11.13211570Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
11.13959604Jordanian
11.41120064Palestinian
12.01208558Cyprian
12.01208558Greek_Cypriot
12.68817560Iraqi_Baghdad
13.18500664Greek_Cappadocian
14.03015681Georgian_Jewish
14.03132923Armenian_West
14.16456494Turk_Cypriot
16.00210611Armenian
16.33466865Greek_Trabzon
17.16136067Greek_Caucasus
17.28245064Turkmen_Iraq
17.99828325Bedouin
18.03566744Armenian_East
18.19744488Turk_South_East
18.30808565Turkish_mixed
18.50071890Tunisian_Jewish
18.65044503Turk_Central_East
19.25168564Libyan_Jewish
19.65949135Turk_East
19.70314442Greek_Dodecanese
19.76792604Turk_Turkey_average
19.94916540Greek_Chios
20.25611513Greek_Symi_Island
20.58919620Turk_Central_West
20.71861482Turk_East_Black_Sea
20.75047469Kurd_Sorani
20.77344459Azeri
20.90290171Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
20.94421161Sephardic_Jewish
21.04558148Turk_Central_Black_Sea
21.39315311Turk_Anatolia
21.45016550Turk_South
21.56114329Zaza
21.77777996Azerbaijani_Turkey
21.93410814Azerbaijani_Iran
21.96461928Kurd_Iran
22.49120717Greek_Crete
22.62891955Lor_Iran
22.67357052Kurdish
22.68051146Iranian
22.79691426Italian_Jewish
23.07461376Greek_North_Aegean
23.11686397Algerian_Jewish
23.15559760IT_Calabria
23.63400093Talysh
23.64473091Egyptian
23.86312008IT_Calabria_ultra
24.42704034IT_Calabria_citra
24.68554233Laz
24.75740899Malta
25.36079849Ashkenazi
25.85083944Moroccan_Jew
25.93575717Turk_North_West
26.12490000Turk_Meskhetian
26.13895369IT_Campania

 
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