@Tomenable,
It's actually pretty surprising how much 374f Minoans had. It indicates they had pretty light skin but then there are paintings depicting people with brown skin. Like I've said before there's no super accurate way to determine someone's skin color from DNA.
IMO, ancestral-info makes it clear Steppe-rich groups are the source for the European blonde/blue eye complex but that doesn't mean they're the source for light skin.
And stop ranking people's worth according to color. Everyone can see what you're suggesting.
@Angela,
The female-light skin, male-dark skin thing obviously wasn't meant to reflect reality. Didn't the Egyptians do the same thing?
Precisely how do you know that it didn't reflect reality?
Most modern Southern Europeans possess snps which allow them to turn much darker after exposure to the sun.
The same man:
Men, who would usually be doing the majority of the field work, would be on the training field, or on ships, would be constantly exposed to the sun, while women, especially the elite women or priestesses, much less so.
This was as true in Egypt as it was in ancient Greece.
There have also been papers that find a slight dysmorphia in terms of pigmentation between men and women.
It's certainly evident to me in populations like the Tuscans, for example, where, in my personal experience, women tend to be, on average, fairer than the men.
Anyway, the main point is that, based on the snps and on the predictive tool, the Mycenaeans (and the Minoans) accurately represented themselves in their art.
I'm not going to derail this thread by going into an extended rehash of de-pigmentation. I will just say that if the intrusive "mixing agent" that created the Mycenaeans came directly from the steppe/Yamnaya it absolutely didn't "lighten" the local population, which was relatively "light" already. As you note, the Minoans already had a lot of 374f.
You clearly seem to have forgotten what you used to know, and said, about pigmentation and Yamnaya in the past.
For the record, I certainly don't believe that people from Sintashta, who were indeed lighter, or Corded Ware people, took a jet from their areas to the Peloponnese. If the mixing agent came by way of the Balkans instead of Anatolia, which I think is probably more likely, then these people were mixed Balkanite populations.
