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- Y-DNA haplogroup
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The BY14150 guy could be of a Southern origin.
He doesn't have any recent Southern origin though, that's why I posted distance. Also BY14150 is extremely rare on Balkans. Other than this Macedonian there is not a single haplotype I've seen that is likely BY14150. Just going from studies at YHRD, you one almost certain BY14150 in: Ireland (where King from YFull if from), 3 from Poland (2 from Gdansk, and 1 from Southern Poland), 1 Slovak, 1 Rusyn, 1 Germany, 1 Spain.
I'm open to an origin for Y30977 which is around the steppe, but you're gonna have to show me a lot more evidence for that.
BY14150 seems far more common around Carpathians than Balkans. Also some evidence could be mustered that E-Y81468 exists around there.
ht11 E-V13 14 24 13 10 16-21 11 12 12 14 11 31 14 10 9 11 12 2
ht12 E-V13 14 24 13 10 16-22 11 12 12 14 11 31 14 10 9 11 12 1
These Moldovans from Karahasani look likely E-Y81468, going by current limited data this is most common Moldovan E-V13 haplotype (albeit only 3).
Slovakia [Slovakian] 13 24 13 10 16-21 13 14 11 31 15 14 19 11 16 10 22
This one also doesn't fit as anything other than Y81468 (maybe one your Y145455 but there are problematic non-matches for that: 391, 389b), and he shows 4-6 STR's difference to current 3 Y81468's. 389=14-31 is defining PH1246 mutation, and one of defining Y81468 mutations is 385b=21.
Interestingly I've seen none of these PH1246 in Romanians nor Bulgarians.
Overall these are not enough to suggest Y37092 has highest diversity near the Steppe area. But at least there are likely there for some time, especially BY14150, and may be also that for example BY14150's path followed more that of some BY3880's.
Interesting, so based on this you would say that he is E-BY3880*?
Well other important STR's are not in the Y111 set but and this one is of more reliable ones, can't say for certain but chances are better he is BY3880+ than BY3880- based on this.
Though there is one interesting possibility I see now: he's maybe be a distant cousin to this Ossetian cluster. Because they too have 561=16, and also they share 497=15 (rare in V13), 456=18, last one is less reliable/faster but all Ossetians have 18 and they are 9/37 so it has some age there, not sure for Albanian as he has no cousins. They are 33/111 so very distant even if they happen to share something. I can't say anything for sure here, these are rare and unprofiled clades. But there is possibility of distant (MBA/EBA) relation here.