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There is a more holders of I2a-Din among Serbs than among Croatians.
I gave you a link, if you don't know to read it is your problem.
So what? It has nothing to do with anything.
Here you prove what you're saying, deal with it!!
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/31539-Genetics-confirm-migration-of-White-Croats-to-Croatia
I need historical records about origin of the Tesla family. Where are those records?
In Turkish archives in Istanbul.
Do you suggest that today there is a larger number of holders of "original Croatian haplogroup" among Serbs than among Croatians?
Novak Đoković is also proud Serbian but he is also and Croatian origin.
All these is written here, deal with it!!!
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/31539-Genetics-confirm-migration-of-White-Croats-to-Croatia
Wrong, Novak Đoković is from Serbian tibe Ozrinići from Montenegro [video]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozrinići_(tribe)[/video]
That is not scientific research of relevant scientists, those are your fantasies.
His mother is a Croatian from Vinkovci (Croatia), what Ozrinići_(tribe) have with Serbians.?
Ozrinići are Serbian tribe from Montenegro (Old Montenegero), in the middle age Montenegro was part of Serbia when Vojvodina and Belgrade was not part of Serbia.
Montenegrins are Serbs, Montenegrin nation does not exist, there was no Montenegrin nation before Josip Broz Tito and Milo Đukanović.
Genetically Montenegrins are closer to Serbs than to Croatians, deal with it.
First Serbian state in early middle age was in Herzegovina, Bosnia, Montenegro, southern/central Dalmatian, Raška, western Serbia and western part of Šumadija.
Modern borders of Serbia are same as borders of Serbia in middle age, Serbia in the early middle age was more western than today.
What ethnicity was Nikola Tesla? This is the real debate here, primarily between Croatians and Serbians.
What is the definition of being Croatian or Serbian today?
Balkan nation borders moved so much. Your people moved so much. Just look all these maps. As I understand it, Adriatic islands and coast are very DNA diverse. Some famous people like Magellan maybe started their life there. What haplogroup would he be? Pannonia, above Sava and Danube, has its own DNA mixes. In SE Serbia are many other mixes today. You are a mix of so many migrations, colonizations, occupations, and ancient tribes before you even landed on Balkans. Many of your haplogroups changed religion which you often use in defining the ethnic groups.
You lived together in the same country, and many of your families are mixed autosomal DNA. Many of your people are afraid to declare themselves to be one or the other because of relentless ethnic pressures that you are part of. You killed your own haplotypes as recent as the 90s, based on your ethnic belives and hatred.
Isn't being Croat or Serb more the state of mind? It is the matter of feeling and your upbringing like it is the case with the race.
What is your point with Hvar island, Q and I2a haplogroup?Croatian members trying to prove it that Tesla was Croat, which is lunatic. Tesla and his ancestors from father's and mother's side were declared Serbs. Father of Nikola Tesla was Orthodox priest, and his grandfather (mothrer's father) was also an Orthodox priest. Yes, Adriatic islands are quite diverse in haplogruops, every island have some specifities, in Adriatic islands are often exotic haplogroups such as Q in Hvar and Korčula. People from Hvar ans Korčula have the highest percentage of haplogroup Q in Europe, even more than Ashkenazi Jews. Some islands of northern Adriatic have 60% R1a, and some Dalmatian islands have 70% I2a-Din, some island have high percentage of J2... Unlike Adriatic islands which are quite diverse Dinaric area (Dalmatian hinterland, Bosnia, Herzegovina, part of Montenegro and western Serbia) are no yso diverse, in Dinaric are haplogroup I2a-Din dominates, especially in Dalmatia and Herzegovina.
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