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    Bronze Age battlefield in the Tollense Valley in northeast Germany

    https://www.academia.edu/34119122/Mu...theast_Germany

    I wonder why the DNA is not analysed yet.
    The fieldwork is done.
    The lab that analyses the DNA can score in an open goal.

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    Very cool stuff. We have a Bronze age battle from 1250BC over an ancient causeway involving 2000 men, one group traveled from quite a far distance.

    The combatants used horses and had a variety of weapons from bronze tipped arrow heads to wooden clubs. The men fighting are speculated to be from ages 20 to 40.

    One group is homogeneous and seems to be native to the area (although their settlement has not been uncovered) while the other has very diverse origins and is speculated to have traveled from the modern day Czech republic. The diets of the two groups also differed, the native group having a more maritime diet and the foreign group having a terrestrial based diet.

    Anyone have any ideas as to the cultures involved here?

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    Nordic Bronze Age Vs Urnfield ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    Nordic Bronze Age Vs Urnfield ?
    my guess too
    at that time many river valleys in Northern Germany were swamps, this was due to the icecaps during LGM which covered Northern Germany back then
    therefore this road was probably the only way up north to the Baltic

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    Slaughter at the bridge: Uncovering a colossal Bronze Age battle

    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/...nze-age-battle

    Author Andrew Curry discusses his story on a major Bronze Age battle on this podcast interview
    http://www.sciencemag.org/podcast/po...con-based-life

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    I remember hearing leaked information about the DNA results of some of the warriors. Some look like natives 'Related to modern Poles and Scandinavians' (Paraphrase) and some look like foreign mercenaries 'From southern Europe.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Haired14 View Post
    I remember hearing leaked information about the DNA results of some of the warriors. Some look like natives 'Related to modern Poles and Scandinavians' (Paraphrase) and some look like foreign mercenaries 'From southern Europe.'
    Foreign mercenaries from southern Europe hired for a battle in north Europe? That's quite amusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    Slaughter at the bridge: Uncovering a colossal Bronze Age battle

    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/...nze-age-battle
    Thanks for the article! The archeologist makes the claim here that the battle could have included as many as 4,000 men, that the belligerents were most likely trained fighters and describes the scale as Homeric(Although they believe the battle only occurred over a period of a day). The age of the causeway also precedes the battle by over half a millennium.

    So around the time the first huts were being built on the hills of Rome there were massive bronze age battles in northern Europe over centuries old architectural works involving trained soldiers with armies traveling 100s of miles to the battlefield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Promenade View Post
    Thanks for the article! The archeologist makes the claim here that the battle could have included as many as 4,000 men, that the belligerents were most likely trained fighters and describes the scale as Homeric(Although they believe the battle only occurred over a period of a day). The age of the causeway also precedes the battle by over half a millennium.

    So around the time the first huts were being built on the hills of Rome there were massive bronze age battles in northern Europe over centuries old architectural works involving trained soldiers with armies traveling 100s of miles to the battlefield.
    there is still a whole world there that is hidden and unknown

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    Have they started testing for the YDNA/Autosomal of these samples?

    It’s been quite some time since it’s initial discovery. You would think with such a wealth of remains discovered they would be hard at work testing them.

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