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    I think this admixture table is from the target survey of this thread - have somebody thoughts about how they could have disrupted this European first farmers component into two groups, roughly said "iberian" and "southeast+central Europe"?Attachment 10002

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    The Mtdna:

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOESAN View Post
    I think this admixture table is from the target survey of this thread - have somebody thoughts about how they could have disrupted this European first farmers component into two groups, roughly said "iberian" and "southeast+central Europe"?Attachment 10002
    wanted to say: discriminated! No clue, noboby here? (even if it is not in the very focus of this thread)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOESAN View Post
    wanted to say: discriminated! No clue, noboby here? (even if it is not in the very focus of this thread)
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    I can't see the attachment, Moesan.

    I can't recall any paper that found any appreciable difference between them. Can you?

    As time went on, however, differing amounts of WHG plus that WHG coming from slightly different groups, and then accompanying drift down the years might have meant you could distinguish between the two groups.

    How do you see this relating to the North African result?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I can't see the attachment, Moesan.

    I can't recall any paper that found any appreciable difference between them. Can you?

    As time went on, however, differing amounts of WHG plus that WHG coming from slightly different groups, and then accompanying drift down the years might have meant you could distinguish between the two groups.

    How do you see this relating to the North African result?
    Sorry, I'm afraid i'm growing old - I was mixing to papers that are remotley related (region) but not the same; here under:


    Rosa Fregel et al., Neolithization of North Africa involved the migration of people from both the Levant and Europe. BioRxiv 2017 (pre-pub). DOI:10.1101/191569

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